why California ?

rh71

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First, this is not meant to be a * > CA (or CA sucks) thread... I just want to understand why... I'm starting this topic because nobody has responded in the YART (real-estate) thread...

Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: freesia39
no one can afford a decent house, i don't know how people do it. if my parents put their house on the market, they could get 900k easy, no repairs needed, extremely well maintained home in a very nice, quiet neighborhood, good schools, etc.

It makes me wonder why people are so reluctant to move out of California and so willing to live IN California. Any time a real estate thread pops up here, the Californians jump in with how much it costs to live in California.
(none of that was directed at you, your post is just what prompted me to say it :))
I am interested in the answer to this as well. I can understand NY because of "the city" and being within an hour of it is awesome... but what is it about CA ? Is it just the weather ?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: rh71
First, this is not meant to be a * > CA (or CA sucks) thread... I just want to understand why... I'm starting this topic because nobody has responded in the YART (real-estate) thread...

Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: freesia39
no one can afford a decent house, i don't know how people do it. if my parents put their house on the market, they could get 900k easy, no repairs needed, extremely well maintained home in a very nice, quiet neighborhood, good schools, etc.

It makes me wonder why people are so reluctant to move out of California and so willing to live IN California. Any time a real estate thread pops up here, the Californians jump in with how much it costs to live in California.
(none of that was directed at you, your post is just what prompted me to say it :))
I am interested in the answer to this as well. I can understand NY because of "the city" and being within an hour of it is awesome... but what is it about CA ? Is it just the weather ?


1. The weather
2. the sights.
3. the ocean.
4. The national parks.
5. the social life. (aka the women :p)
6. Disneyland and Magic Mountain ;)


Those are just a few reasons.
 

Toasthead

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The weather, yes it has a big influence, I dont have to worry about toranados, hurricanes or blizzards.
 

trmiv

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I was born and raised here. I don't want to leave, this is my home. Now if all the transplanted fvcks from other states would get the hell out....
 

Skunkwourk

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What Klin said. I mentioned once before, where else can you go Snowboarding, and Surfing in one day in tolerable weather conditions.
California pretty much offers everything you want.

Originally posted by: trmiv
I was born and raised here. I don't want to leave, this is my home. Now if all the transplanted fvcks from other states would get the hell out....

Im with you there. I grew up here, this is my home.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Eghck
What Klin said. I mentioned once before, where else can you go Snowboarding, and Surfing in one day in tolerable weather conditions.
California pretty much offers everything you want.

you want a state full of assholes?
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: trmiv
I was born and raised here. I don't want to leave, this is my home. Now if all the transplanted fvcks from other states would get the hell out....


Don't worry it might be taken care of when the next quake hits...

;)


Ausm
 

ggnl

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The people I've known that have moved there generally knew nothing about the state before heading west. I think there is still some sort of allure for young people, despite all the bad press the state receives. Fun-loving (and often politically left-leaning) young people head out there looking for like minded company, and are often driven back when they realize just how hard it is to get established there.
 

rh71

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What about when it comes time for you guys (non-homeowners) to buy your own place ? Will you do everything in your power to stay there or is it an "I'm not paying $500k for a shack" mentality ?

Do all the listed pros outweigh the cons ?
 

Demon-Xanth

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#1: I've lived here all my life.
#2: My family has lived here all thier lives.
#3: My job is here.

That's just about it at this point.
 

RaDragon

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It's really difficult to explain. I live in the South Bay. We moved from Redondo Beach (renting) to Torrance (bought a home) because we wanted to be close to the beach, but still be able to afford the mortgage. The house is a measley 3-bedroom, 1750 sq. feet and two years ago, it cost us about $360K. I recently heard that it's worth over $500K. Living "close" the beach means that we don't use air conditioning during the summertime (albeit it does get hot! but not as hot as the Valley), we run along the coast, and just really enjoy all-year-round cool weather.

In general, I like the mutli-ethnic culture of Los Angeles County. For me, it's a more laid back and welcoming place than Boston or NYC (of course, I've only lived 6 weeks total in those two other cities)... It's also nice to live close to the beach communities (Manhattan, Hermosa and Redondo Beach) 'cuz of the different stuff that you can do from day to night.
 

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
The weather, yes it has a big influence, I dont have to worry about toranados, hurricanes or blizzards.

But watch out for the mudslides, wildfires, earthquakes and tsunami (one day). Vermont has none of them except depending on how you define blizzard. It gets cols here, but not that windy with all the mountains, unless you live on one.

I'd love to go to football games though. I wanna root for the Raiders at home.
 

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Summer weather w/out the humidity. If I could stand humidity, I'd live in Miami where my company has an office.

Ocean/coast.

Mountains.

Plus, this is where I was born, and yes, I have lived in other parts of the country, but Cali is home, specifically the Bay Area. Only other spot I'd consider moving to is right outside of San Diego area.


 

rh71

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I like the beach and resort-type weather as much as anybody... but I can only take it 2 weeks at a time (aka vacation - it's special). Do you guys ever get sick of it ? Do you guys wish you could experience the 4 seasons ? I love how one season makes you welcome the next season so much more. I personally can't imagine living in sun-weather everyday. Toward the end of my Hawaii and cruise vacations, I had "enough".
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Eghck
What Klin said. I mentioned once before, where else can you go Snowboarding, and Surfing in one day in tolerable weather conditions.
California pretty much offers everything you want.

you want a state full of assholes?

I guess thats the nature of the beast. Not ALL of us are though. A lot of people move here thinking its paradise and become bitter when they find out that it isn't all fun and games.

Originally posted by: rh71
What about when it comes time for you guys (non-homeowners) to buy your own place ? Will you do everything in your power to stay there or is it an "I'm not paying $500k for a shack" mentality ?

Do all the listed pros outweigh the cons ?

Honestly, I've considered moving out of state. But at this point all of my friends and family are here, and Im not willing to leave that behind just yet.
 

trmiv

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I think a lot of people from other states think California and they automatically think LA, San Francisco. California is a BIG state, there is a lot of rural communities in this state. I think a lot of out-of-staters would be amazed by the amount of farmland in this state.

I like the beach and resort-type weather as much as anybody... but I can only take it 2 weeks at a time (aka vacation - it's special). Do you guys ever get sick of it ? Do you guys wish you could experience the 4 seasons ? I love how one season makes you welcome the next season so much more. I personally can't imagine living in sun-weather everyday.

Again, California is a big state with many climates.
 

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Personally, I'd move to San Diego in an instant if it weren't for all the people and the relatively high cost of living...
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: trmiv
I think a lot of people from other states think California and they automatically think LA, San Francisco. California is a BIG state, there is a lot of rural communities in this state. I think a lot of out-of-staters would be amazed by the amount of farmland in this state.

I like the beach and resort-type weather as much as anybody... but I can only take it 2 weeks at a time (aka vacation - it's special). Do you guys ever get sick of it ? Do you guys wish you could experience the 4 seasons ? I love how one season makes you welcome the next season so much more. I personally can't imagine living in sun-weather everyday.

Again, California is a big state with many climates.
Good point... I always forget about the skiing there. Though, I really imagine it to be one area... Lake Tahoe is it ? That's the eastern part, no ? The other confusing part is - that's right next to desert... :confused:

NorCal and SoCal are still known to be all about "sunny CA". Where's this mentality coming from ?
 
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Originally posted by: Trey22
Summer weather w/out the humidity. If I could stand humidity, I'd live in Miami where my company has an office.

Ocean/coast.

Mountains.

Plus, this is where I was born, and yes, I have lived in other parts of the country, but Cali is home, specifically the Bay Area. Only other spot I'd consider moving to is right outside of San Diego area.

Agreed, and that's why we are the most populous state in the nation. But truth is, CA is mostly SF and LA. If you add up the 2 metropolises, you have about 18 million people situated either in the Bay Area or down in LA region.
 

Hubes

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i would love to live there but the real-estate is just out of hand. You can get a much better bang for your buck almost anywhere.