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iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
It may or may not be healthy. Sex before marriage, no. But living together, as long as I'm not too tempted, is fine with me.

nik

sex before marriage isnt "healthy?" WTF does that mean?


I live with my girlfriend, its coming up on a year fairly shortly. So far it has been great. Sure, we have gotten into arguements, but what couple doesnt? The key is to work through them. People today are too busy to work out their issues.
 

her209

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Its obvious that people who think pre-marrital relations is wrong don't know what marraige is really like? ;)
 

ttn1

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Well I have something with my GF that is way more binding than a marriage. It's called a 30 year mortgage. She says I can leave anytime I want, as long as I send her the mortgage payment.

I think marriage is a commitment between 2 people. It doesn't have to be official to anyone but the 2 involved.

Edit: We've been together for 7 years. Longer than most people I know stay married.

Edit2: From the post below. We haven't married mainly for monetary reasons. I'm still in school and she wants a big fancy wedding and noone is going to pay for it but us. She has serious money saving issues, so that leaves us where we are. We've made the commitment, we just haven't told the government or any religious group yet. All of ouf friends and family pretty much consider us "married" at this point.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: ttn1
Well I have something with my GF that is way more binding than a marriage. It's called a 30 year mortgage. She says I can leave anytime I want, as long as I send her the mortgage payment.

I think marriage is a commitment between 2 people. It doesn't have to be official to anyone but the 2 involved.
Why haven't you married her then?

 

linuxboy

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Ah, but some people still prefers the milk it slowly, instead of the inhumane way to treat a cow with machine. :)

Touche... I imagine for them, there's nothing quite like the feel of udder joy in the morning.

Cheers ! :)
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt It may or may not be healthy. Sex before marriage, no. But living together, as long as I'm not too tempted, is fine with me. nik
sex before marriage isnt "healthy?" WTF does that mean? I live with my girlfriend, its coming up on a year fairly shortly. So far it has been great. Sure, we have gotten into arguements, but what couple doesnt? The key is to work through them. People today are too busy to work out their issues.

I'm not even going to bother
rolleye.gif
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt It may or may not be healthy. Sex before marriage, no. But living together, as long as I'm not too tempted, is fine with me. nik
sex before marriage isnt "healthy?" WTF does that mean? I live with my girlfriend, its coming up on a year fairly shortly. So far it has been great. Sure, we have gotten into arguements, but what couple doesnt? The key is to work through them. People today are too busy to work out their issues.

I'm not even going to bother
rolleye.gif

I'm glad i'm not so restricted in my life as you. No wonder you are always so bitchy here :)
 

djheater

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Impressive Clergyman: Mawwage. Mawwage is what bwings us togethew today. Mawwage, that bwessed awwangement, that dweam within a dweam. And wove, twue wove, wiww fowwow you fowevah...


I like being married. It was certainly anti-climactic after the brith of our first child, but it's nice. Ideals, however academically sound, when they prohibit joy are probably incorrect.

I find joy in marriage, marriage is good for me.



 

Hammer

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Oct 19, 2001
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what state are you in? chances are you're already married. :)

Originally posted by: ttn1
Well I have something with my GF that is way more binding than a marriage. It's called a 30 year mortgage. She says I can leave anytime I want, as long as I send her the mortgage payment.

I think marriage is a commitment between 2 people. It doesn't have to be official to anyone but the 2 involved.

Edit: We've been together for 7 years. Longer than most people I know stay married.

Edit2: From the post below. We haven't married mainly for monetary reasons. I'm still in school and she wants a big fancy wedding and noone is going to pay for it but us. She has serious money saving issues, so that leaves us where we are. We've made the commitment, we just haven't told the government or any religious group yet. All of ouf friends and family pretty much consider us "married" at this point.

 

JupiterJones

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A lot here depends on what you think about marriage. If you exegete the first two chapters of Genesis you get a strong message concerning marriage. Specifically, everything God created was good. After man was joined with woman, it was very good. Man to be alone is not good.

The Hebrew for helpmate (the job for which a woman is created) literally means to stand before face-to-face. The sense is of completion, the joining together of the two into one. The point here is that God created us for marriage, and it is in that union where we find completeness. Marriage is the crown of God's creation.

If you are not of the Christian faith, then maybe you should look at the statistics concerning divorce among those who have previously lived together. Their divorce rate is three times higher than those who do not live together. The percentage of people who co-habitat and stay together for life is statistically zero.

If your goal is to play house, without concern for a lifetime together, then you lose nothing by living together. If you want to be with one person for life, then choose that person carefully, take things in the proper order, and be committed to a covenant relationship with that person.
 

farscape

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The vast majority of people that I know that lived together first and then got married are divorced - some 2 - 3 times. A few never got married and it's tough remembering whose kids the fathers/mothers are. But they all keep 'pumping' them out. Heard too many times, 'He/She makes me laugh'. No self-respect.

95% of those we know, that didn't live together first, are all still happily married - 5, 10, 25+ years. We're celebrating our 25th this July and wouldn't have it any other way.

 

Hammer

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Oct 19, 2001
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mel, as amusing as you may find this, I believe in the marriage. But I want to make certain I get it right the first time. I really really dislike the idea of divorce. I would see it as a personal failure. I think I would live with a girl at least a couple of months to make sure its ok before I would get married.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: farscape
The vast majority of people that I know that lived together first and then got married are divorced - some 2 - 3 times. A few never got married and it's tough remembering whose kids the fathers/mothers are. But they all keep 'pumping' them out. Heard too many times, 'He/She makes me laugh'. No self-respect.

95% of those we know, that didn't live together first, are all still happily married - 5, 10, 25+ years. We're celebrating our 25th this July and wouldn't have it any other way.

my parents are going on 40 years and she was pregnant before they got married :Q. 4 months after they were married, they had a 10lb baby boy, They had originally meant to tell the family he was a premature baby, but he was too big for that. :) Nine months and 3 days later, they had their second child.
 

ElFenix

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milk is tasty. and you use it to make ice cream. which is tasty. and butter. which is tasty. mmmm ice cream
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: ttn1
Well I have something with my GF that is way more binding than a marriage. It's called a 30 year mortgage. She says I can leave anytime I want, as long as I send her the mortgage payment.

I think marriage is a commitment between 2 people. It doesn't have to be official to anyone but the 2 involved.
Why haven't you married her then?

I've been living with my gf for the last 3 years, and have started moving in that direction too. Why should I get married?
 

flavio

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I've been living with my gf for the last 3 years, and have started moving in that direction too. Why should I get married?

There is no need to get married. A committment between two people can be made without involving clergy or the law. Marriage is a big huge waste of money. Think about how much the average wedding costs and then rings on top of it.

Just throw a party when you buy a house.
 

JupiterJones

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There is no need to get married. A committment between two people can be made without involving clergy or the law. Marriage is a big huge waste of money. Think about how much the average wedding costs and then rings on top of it.

The basic arguments mentioned here have been made before, way back in the early 1800's. From Fredrick Engels' The Principles of Communism:

What will be the influence of communist society on the family?

It will transform the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occassion to intervene.


 

Geekbabe

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I think I'd want to live with the dude first but yeah,I'd probably be crazy enough to get married again someday :)Besides, It does make logistics like property ownship and such a little easier to sort out in some states.
 

lawaris

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Originally posted by: baffled2
I think I'd want to live with the dude first but yeah,I'd probably be crazy enough to get married again someday :)Besides, It does make logistics like property ownship and such a little easier to sort out in some states.

If you have the same attitude as you have shown in the last few days .... you will be lucky if you get anyone decent at all
:D
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt It may or may not be healthy. Sex before marriage, no. But living together, as long as I'm not too tempted, is fine with me. nik
sex before marriage isnt "healthy?" WTF does that mean? I live with my girlfriend, its coming up on a year fairly shortly. So far it has been great. Sure, we have gotten into arguements, but what couple doesnt? The key is to work through them. People today are too busy to work out their issues.
I'm not even going to bother
rolleye.gif
I'm glad i'm not so restricted in my life as you. No wonder you are always so bitchy here :)

I wouldn't call it "restricted" because I impose them on myself. They're self standards that I live up to. :)

nik
 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Now, why'd you have to go ahead and say something like that? :disgust:

Originally posted by: lawaris
If you have the same attitude as you have shown in the last few days .... you will be lucky if you get anyone decent at all
:D

 

lawaris

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Jun 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: hammer09
Now, why'd you have to go ahead and say something like that? :disgust:

Originally posted by: lawaris
If you have the same attitude as you have shown in the last few days .... you will be lucky if you get anyone decent at all
:D

cos' she said something similar about my g/f a little while back !

people here try to comment ... without realizing that there are as screwed up as any other human !

 

hoihtah

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Jan 12, 2001
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man... feel jipped...

i was expecting to see some free milk deals here.

oh... well... i guess that's why this is OT... and not HD.

:(