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Why bash those who believe in God?

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0roo0roo

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and of course the continued use of failed arguments to the followers like those already posted. it doesn't matter if the arguments have been dealt with already, they are spewed out again to convert or strengthen the faith of the ignorant:p it happens esp a lot with creationism. anything is justified when trying to "save" souls.
 

HombrePequeno

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I don't bash people who believe in god. I don't think I'd have very many friends if I went around bashing their beliefs all the time. I avoid religious discussions like the plague because I know how they turn out.

I really don't care what a person believes as long as they are a good person.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Benedict also approved a document which said all other Christian denominations apart from Catholicism were wounded and not full churches of Jesus Christ, drawing the ire of a number of Protestant groups who said it would hurt dialogue.

From the Catholic understanding of the role of the Church and its priesthood, this is correct. Protestant churches are not in communion with the Church, do not have priests or bishops ordained in a valid sacrament, and do not administer valid sacraments. The Orthodox churches, while also not in Communion with the Church, do have a true priesthood and the sacraments of the Orthodox churches are valid in the view of the Catholic Church. On a theological basis, the Catholic Church can not accept the sacraments of the Protestant churches and therefore views Protestants as "wounded" in that they are missing out on the benefits bestowed by valid sacraments.

Protestants, obviously, view this as a bunch of crap. This is what makes religion so much fun.
 

compuwiz1

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If God exists, I'm absolutely convinced he would be embarrassed at one of his offspring, GEORGE W. BUSH.

Hell, I'm surprised he hasn't ordered a new ARK conquest. If there was really a God, he's got to be so pissed off right now, that the floods would have already commenced. ;)
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
If God exists, I'm absolutely convinced he would be embarrassed at one of his offspring, GEORGE W. BUSH.

Hell, I'm surprised he hasn't ordered a new ARK conquest. If there was really a God, he's got to be so pissed off right now, that the floods would have already commenced. ;)

I'll take it you haven't seen Evan Almighty yet? :p
 

jjzelinski

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I only denounce those who derive s sense of elitism in through their superstitious gibberish, especially when the gibberish is aim at me or when it tries to force itself onto an unwilling and disinterested population (i.e. mixing government and religion.)
 

mattpegher

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I only denounce those who derive s sense of elitism in through their superstitious gibberish, especially when the gibberish is aim at me or when it tries to force itself onto an unwilling and disinterested population (i.e. mixing government and religion.)

Or when they try to refute currently held scientific theory with lame non-scientific rhetoric.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I only denounce those who derive s sense of elitism in through their superstitious gibberish, especially when the gibberish is aim at me or when it tries to force itself onto an unwilling and disinterested population (i.e. mixing government and religion.)

it works both ways though. by you calling it "superstitious gibberish" you have attempted to force your opinion on me just the same.
 

Hyperblaze

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Is the world such an intolerant place?
Here is one reason.

Benedict also approved a document which said all other Christian denominations apart from Catholicism were wounded and not full churches of Jesus Christ, drawing the ire of a number of Protestant groups who said it would hurt dialogue.

Well, I have yet to really be impressed by our new Pope.

I wished he was more like Jean Paul I, or Jean Paul II.

 

dug777

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Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: yllus
I used to be very aggressively anti-religion. Then I grew up.
So as a blanket generalisation, people who are anti-religion need to 'grow-up'?

;)

Sounds like you've exchanged one form of intolerance for another.
Nah, you're just getting emotional. The simple fact is it's not possible to reside on the plane of existence we're upon and know for a fact that a creator exists or doesn't exist. You might as well shrug your shoulders and say, "I'll find out when I'm dead." Thus to be either aggressively pro-religion or anti-religion is really the same poor logic.

To be particularly pedantic, i didn't include the word 'aggressively' in my blanket generalisation , so you haven't actually answered my question.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: puffff
Wouldn't you make fun of someone who believes in Santa Claus even after they've grown up?

Santa Claus has an origin in the man known as Saint Nicholas and I think any parent will tell you that it sure ain't ol' jolly Saint Nick who ate those cookies and drank that milk. So in other words, that's a poor example, because we know where the "story" of Santa Claus came from.
 

GoingUp

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I think it has to do with the fact that people who believe in God try to ram their beliefs down the throats of people that don't.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I only denounce those who derive s sense of elitism in through their superstitious gibberish, especially when the gibberish is aim at me or when it tries to force itself onto an unwilling and disinterested population (i.e. mixing government and religion.)

it works both ways though. by you calling it "superstitious gibberish" you have attempted to force your opinion on me just the same.

It's impossible to force an opinion on someone. All someone can do is say what they believe and you do what it what you will. In fact, I'd say the closest thing to "forcing your opinion" on someone would be indoctrinating children into the Church before they're equipped to think critically about it.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: yllus
I used to be very aggressively anti-religion. Then I grew up.
So as a blanket generalisation, people who are anti-religion need to 'grow-up'?

;)

Sounds like you've exchanged one form of intolerance for another.
Nah, you're just getting emotional. The simple fact is it's not possible to reside on the plane of existence we're upon and know for a fact that a creator exists or doesn't exist. You might as well shrug your shoulders and say, "I'll find out when I'm dead." Thus to be either aggressively pro-religion or anti-religion is really the same poor logic.

Poor logic is putting the disbelief of god and the belief of god on equal footing. But aside from that, the big difference between Atheists and Theists is that we can be wrong. I'd even venture to say that we WANT to be wrong.