Why aren't we building 24hr DayCare Centers??

[Slew Foot]

Because then it would be Nightcare.


Or you could do what Asians do, and have the grandparents take care of the kids.

 

[Greenman]

It's tough deciding which strangers you want to raise your kids.

 

[nageov3t]

I've always worked with others who have kids and it is indeed a pain in the ass to juggle work and bringing kids to daycare. I think it comes to show just how broken our society system is. One should not be stuck having to go to work every single day while letting someone else raise their child. What ever happened to the old fashioned way where the mother stays at home and the dad brings in the money? Now cost of living is so high while salaries don't increase that both parents have to work.

part of that has to be lifestyle inflation as well, though... I have a friend who makes about $60,000 in the NYC suburbs and has 1 kid with a stay-at-home wife, but they live in a small house in a not-so-great neighborhood and don't take vacations.

if you want the nice, new-construction house that's double the size of a house people lived in 50 years ago, though, you're probably going to need 2 salaries for that.

 

[SagaLore]

It's called a babysitter. You aren't going to drag your kid(s) out of bed and drop then off somewhere overnight just so you can work a night shift.

 

[Imp]

part of that has to be lifestyle inflation as well, though... I have a friend who makes about $60,000 in the NYC suburbs and has 1 kid with a stay-at-home wife, but they live in a small house in a not-so-great neighborhood and don't take vacations.

if you want the nice, new-construction house that's double the size of a house people lived in 50 years ago, though, you're probably going to need 2 salaries for that.

I'm feeling that with the nanny thing. As far as I can tell, nannies or live-in caregivers used to be a rich people thing -- like a governess. People can't afford to, or don't want to, pay much above minimum wage for a nanny nowadays, but they still want them.

Thank god for government programs allowing workers from third-world countries to be brought here legally to perform that role...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-caregiver.asp

 

[Hugo Drax]

Why have kids to barely see them. Its not like were are in the 17th century where you need kids to work the fields so you can eat.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I was thinking a person could leave the child there all day and night, maybe for years at a time.

If the child is under 3 years old I highly doubt it could tell the difference.



I want kids in the future but I don't want "babies". I would like to put the infant in 24hour daycare and keep them their until their like 3 years old.

lol, best new troll.

 

[Gizmo j]

lol, best new troll.

I'm serious!

It would be awesome if I could just give my newborn baby to a 24hr DayCare and tell them "I'll be back in 3 years!"

 

[KLin]

lol at the newbie troll

 

[pcgeek11]

I think there is no excuse for an unplanned pregnancy and that you shouldn't have kids without having planned for a way to raise them yourself. Using a day care center is not an acceptable part of the plan.

-KeithP

I agree with you.

My wife was the home maker and raised our son while i worked and supported the family. IMO this is the natural order of how it should be. No we didn't live in a 2500 sqft home, or go on vacations every year on and on. We raised a good kid that is now a good man and we didn't worry about who was screwing up our kid while we were at work.

But today everyone is too busy with working and going on vacations and having the latest this and that to actually stay home sacrifice a little and hands on raise their kids properly.

It is sad.

 

[Pulsar]

Most people with planned pregnancies do use daycare centers. Using a daycare allows for more income. The child can be raised in a better neighborhood, go to better schools, and have help with college. It also allows them to interact with other children while they are growing, and not be shy or socially awkward.

Those are, quite possibly, the most ridiculous rationalizations I've ever heard to willfully neglect your child raising responsibilities. If you really can't drag yourself away from your job to raise your children, then you shouldn't be having them to begin with.

 

[Pulsar]

I agree with you.

My wife was the home maker and raised our son while i worked and supported the family. IMO this is the natural order of how it should be. No we didn't live in a 2500 sqft home, or go on vacations every year on and on. We raised a good kid that is now a good man and we didn't worry about who was screwing up our kid while we were at work.

But today everyone is too busy with working and going on vacations and having the latest this and that to actually stay home sacrifice a little and hands on raise their kids properly.

It is sad.

Yep. Gotta take those trips to Disney, those cruises, or those flights to the carribean. It's all about priorities. And some people have pretty messed up priorities.

I'm right there worth you. Our big trips are tent camping. Our house is small and rural. And I have the best kids ever courtesy of the time I and my wife have spent at home raising them.

 

[BoomerD]

By "we" I was referring to society in general.

Who is going to provide this service?
It's not something the government should get involved with.

Who is going to pay for this service?
It's not something the government or taxpayers should be expected to fund.

Besides...if you provide round-the-clock child care...you're just going to encourage more wimmenz to work...and take your jobs.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm feeling that with the nanny thing. As far as I can tell, nannies or live-in caregivers used to be a rich people thing -- like a governess. People can't afford to, or don't want to, pay much above minimum wage for a nanny nowadays, but they still want them.

Thank god for government programs allowing workers from third-world countries to be brought here legally to perform that role...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-caregiver.asp

#thanksharper :awe:

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm serious!

It would be awesome if I could just give my newborn baby to a 24hr DayCare and tell them "I'll be back in 3 years!"

They sort of have this, it's called an adoption centre. :biggrin:

 

[gorcorps]

With how many times you used the wrong "there" and "your" in the OP, I have to assume this is some thinly veiled bait for the grammar Nazis

not bad though

 

[Jumpem]

I agree with you.

My wife was the home maker and raised our son while i worked and supported the family. IMO this is the natural order of how it should be. No we didn't live in a 2500 sqft home, or go on vacations every year on and on. We raised a good kid that is now a good man and we didn't worry about who was screwing up our kid while we were at work.

But today everyone is too busy with working and going on vacations and having the latest this and that to actually stay home sacrifice a little and hands on raise their kids properly.

It is sad.

Most everyone I know with kids in daycare is just working to raise a family and get by. Living in modest houses, driving inexpensive or used cars, and vacations, if any, are modest.

 

[Jumpem]

Those are, quite possibly, the most ridiculous rationalizations I've ever heard to willfully neglect your child raising responsibilities. If you really can't drag yourself away from your job to raise your children, then you shouldn't be having them to begin with.

They aren't rationalizations. They are reality. I know people who stay at home to watch their child. they are quiet, introverted, and don't like interacting with other kids.

I do my best so that my children will be raised and grow up better than I was. Going to daycare during the day is no different than going to school during the day.

 

[purbeast0]

eh, putting kids in daycare has great benefits. it allows the kid to build social skills and also get sick to build their immune system.

i've seen this first hand. my brothers kid has been in "daycare" with his grandma since he was like 3 months old. my sisters kid has been in a traditional daycare since he was 3 months old, interacting with other kids the whole time.

they are night and day different. sure, some of it is just personality, but a lot of it i believe is the one kid simply doesn't know how to interact with kids. we were just on a big vacation with many other kids, and my brothers kid would just kind of do his own thing where my sisters kid was running around chasing all of the other kids. my brothers kid also has a problem sharing, everything is his and his only, whereas the opposite is true of my sisters kid.

sure, purely anecdotal, but this isn't the first i've heard of this. our first born is 4 months old and my wife is going back to work at 6 months, and her mom is going to be coming and watching our kid at our house. but by the time he is a year or 18 months old, i want to put him in a more social day care spot.

 

[jaha2000]

I'm serious!

It would be awesome if I could just give my newborn baby to a 24hr DayCare and tell them "I'll be back in 3 years!"

This is obviously spoken from somebody who has never had kids.
This should read, "i will keep them till they are two and come back and get them when they are 5"
I have a 3 year old and a 8 month old at home right now. Care to ventrue which is more work?

 

[jagec]

Huh? You shouldn't be asking us what we think... you should be providing the market with what it needs and becoming a multi millionaire. I'm sure some thinktank has a crawler that has found your idea and is already deciding if it's profitable or not.

Just because something would be good for society doesn't mean that it would necessarily be profitable for an individual entrepreneur.

Indeed, some would say that the main purpose of government is to deal with such cases.

 

[It's Not Lupus]

what happens when the daycare is closing, but you're going to be a few hours late picking your kid up?

 

[cabri]

what happens when the daycare is closing, but you're going to be a few hours late picking your kid up?

When my daughter worked at a centre (2002), the rule was
1) That two people would always stay.
2) The rate was $20/15 minutes to be paid the next billing cycle.
3) Workers would get OT even if they did not have OT hours.

If no advance call by the parent and over 1 hr late; calls made to adults on file for the child.

If no adult checked in, the local PD, Social Services were notified.

 

[Homerboy]

we already have too many day cares as it is. Sad that most people can't raise their own kids. A 24hr day care would be the saddest thing ever.

 

[Pulsar]

Most everyone I know with kids in daycare is just working to raise a family and get by. Living in modest houses, driving inexpensive or used cars, and vacations, if any, are modest.

1. That would seem to be a contradiction of your first post.
2. People cannot take an example of poor patenting and compare that to a good daycare experience. For instance, if someone wants to use an introverted grandma as a reason day care is better, then I get to use the example of an abusive daycare worker as my comparator.
3. There simply is no legitimate argument here. A loving parent at home will beat out a daycare every time at raising happy well rounded children.
4. If someone wants to argue that 5 days a week, 8 months a year, for 13 years is not enough socialization, then they are nuts.