why aren't we allowed to do this in america (usa)?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

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this story got me thinking about a similar incident with A&F hiring whites only because that is how they want to market their products. they want a corporate image and they should be able to choose how they want it portrayed.
i'm not saying it's right morally or PC, but is it constitutional?

now we have this woman who owns a home and wants to rent to white people only.
do the cops have the right to tell her to take it down?

 

[nageov3t]

not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

 

[Turin39789]

Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents or legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and handicap (disability).

http://www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/FHLaws/index.cfm

 

[HardcoreRobot]

because we mistakenly believe that by making something illegal we make the underlying problem disappear

 

[Liet]

You can't pass laws against underlying problems. You can pass laws against unfair housing practices, though.

 

[Insomniator]

Because it is an idiotic law, and therefore American.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

still doesn't make sense to me.

i want to cater my product to a certain demographic. i should be able to carry that out any way i see fit.
isn't this the land of the free?

 

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

still doesn't make sense to me.

i want to cater my product to a certain demographic. i should be able to carry that out any way i see fit.
isn't this the land of the free?

land of the free under as the government sees fit

 

[BeauJangles]

Your freedom doesn't include discriminating against people based on skin color. Just like it doesn't make you free to murder, rape, steal, extort, bribe, or pedal cocaine.

 

[jalaram]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

still doesn't make sense to me.

i want to cater my product to a certain demographic. i should be able to carry that out any way i see fit.
isn't this the land of the free?

Catering to a demographic means a higher percentage of the demographic will buy your service. However, there's still a possibility of others to buy the service. You're not outright saying no to them which is what that lady is doing. Plus, it was solely based on the color of the skin, not the ability to pay or anything.

Yes, you're free to be personally racist, but not when it comes to hiring or renting.

 

[CLite]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

still doesn't make sense to me.

i want to cater my product to a certain demographic. i should be able to carry that out any way i see fit.
isn't this the land of the free?

No. Land of the free is where jackasses aren't allowed to descriminate and tell someone who would make a perfectly viable client/employee/tenant/etc. that they are not eligible because of skin color. Or maybe we can start having "white only" restaurants /etc. in the South or wherever else racists live, that'd be just dandy for you I'm sure.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

still doesn't make sense to me.

i want to cater my product to a certain demographic. i should be able to carry that out any way i see fit.
isn't this the land of the free?

Yes, and that is why it is illegal. Control over housing and money can be a powerful means of continuing segregation and discrimination. If enough landlords are in collusion, they can keep minorities living within certain sectors, generally undesirable, by barring them from renting elsewhere. Banks that withhold loans and mortgages can prevent minorities from moving to certain areas or starting businesses there. In the 50's, with the exodus from the cities to the suburbs, many of these practices were used to keep the blacks in the inner cities and only allow whites to move out to the suburbs. You can find stuff about this under social steering. Sometimes it amazes me how people take forgranted some of the civil rights laws. I shake my head everytime I hear someone say we should have an IQ test for voting.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Unless there is a business necessity (e.g. Chinese restaurant only hiring Chinese employees to maintain authenticity).

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

still doesn't make sense to me.

i want to cater my product to a certain demographic. i should be able to carry that out any way i see fit.
isn't this the land of the free?

Yeah free market oriented people want to roll back America to the pre-1960's... i'll have to ask some civil rights people who lived through that time, but i get the impression it didn't work out to well.

*coughs*

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Unless there is a business necessity (e.g. Chinese restaurant only hiring Chinese employees to maintain authenticity).

Funny thing is, i see lots of mexicans working in chinese restaurants these days

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Yet you can give scholarships out based on race.....

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Unless there is a business necessity (e.g. Chinese restaurant only hiring Chinese employees to maintain authenticity).

so basically the govt picks and chooses what it deems illegal.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Unless there is a business necessity (e.g. Chinese restaurant only hiring Chinese employees to maintain authenticity).

so basically the govt picks and chooses what it deems illegal.

It varies from circuit to circuit what evidence they find acceptable as a burden of proof of business necessity.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Yet you can give scholarships out based on race.....

And affirmative action.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Unless there is a business necessity (e.g. Chinese restaurant only hiring Chinese employees to maintain authenticity).

so basically the govt picks and chooses what it deems illegal.

Well, for one thing, being a waiter at a chinese restaurant (where there are lots of chinese), they can basically make speaking chinese a requirement for the job, and that would make lots of sense since you'll have lots of chinese patrons. Like i said though, i've seen lots of mexicans working in chinese restaurants (but i'm in connecticut), so probably how little pay you're willing to receive is probably also a consideration.

 

[Bulk Beef]

Repost

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: loki8481
not hiring someone or not renting to someone on the basis of race is very illegal.

Yet you can give scholarships out based on race.....

And affirmative action.

Disparate Impact pisses me off more than affirmative action.

 

[djheater]

I'm no lawyer or anything, but I think it's the manner she did it.
You're probably allowed to have roomates, who contribute to the mortgage and only allow people you want.
But if you're a landlord looking to set up a legal contract we have laws against discrimination which you have to abide by.

(didn't read the thread, flame on)

 

[Redfraggle]

While I understand, and am all for, capitalism, we pervert the system. We aren't allowed to limit our services/goods in such ways because there is no real reason to. The reason is racism every time (beauty products for ethnic groups do not count, as its use is limited to a certain demographic, but everyone wears clothes and needs them). In a responsible capitalist approach, a company would want to have the widest appeal in order to sell the most clothing. Now, it is true that racial groups have somewhat created their own stereotypical fashion, it does not apply to all members of the race. Anyone from any race is still free to buy the clothes aimed at a particular group.

The US has proven in the past exactly why we shouldn't have segregation.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Your freedom doesn't include discriminating against people based on skin color. Just like it doesn't make you free to murder, rape, steal, extort, bribe, or pedal cocaine.

that would be one fast bike 😛


and you could easily get around all the laws by finding other reasons (even petty ones) to not rent to who you didnt want to rent to, as well as for only hiring whatever demo you wanted to represent yourself with. how many huge girls you see working at hooters?