Umm, where did you hear this? If you are talking about Daschle, then yes, this is out of bad tase.
Umm, where did you hear this? If you are talking about Daschle, then yes, this is out of bad tase.
Check out my edited post above, again this link you provided is from May 1999, that's when the first story broke out, it has since been disproven, Wen Ho Lee is acquited.
can i jump in the fire?
my theory, as i've stated, is that for many people the new motto is "Bush said it, I believe it, that settles it."
Uh... but aren't there many other countries doing the same?
Aren't there many countries with nuclear weapons? To list a few: Russia, China, India, Pakistan, UK, France, Germany (only missiles iirc), USA, and maybe North Korea. So...? Why doesn't Bush attack North Korea? Oh... right, because they can shoot back. Is this the message of it? Go, get yourself nuclear weapons as fast as possible before Bush's gonna bomb you? Looks a bit like that, huh?
And one more thing: the Republicans are christians afaik, right? So... what did the pope said? Hmm... let me see, I think it was something like "Bush's gonna have to explain his actions to god". Hmm... does this sound like god agrees with Bush? And, IIRC the pope is representing god on earth... issn't he?
XZeroII, I think you just made my point for me...
Of course iraq has WMD. thats not a question. And Saddam is by no way innocent. I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT.
BUT its not like playing telephone. I BROUGHT UP specific points that bush made flat out. That are wrong.
And I don't understand why people aren't outraged about this.
I think there is a general feeling that because Saddam is a bad guy it's ok to lie about him cuz its all for a good effort,
but thats just ridiculous.
Now, links have already been provided by other people, thanx guys.
And Yes, i the mi6 copying the entire document from a student, I did know about that.
Maybe Im forgetfull, but I though Bush said Iraq has ties to terrorists(which they do, and is well documented), not just al qieda.
Intellegence is sometimes faulty. The information about the african uranium, was given to the British. Bush didnt lie, he probably never even saw the documents, he was just going be the information the British had, unless you believe in conspiracies.
The third point is debateable. I can bet the US could use those very same centrifuges to enrich uranium if we really wanted to.
The US was right about alot of stuff. For example, the drones.
Intellegence is sometimes faulty. The information about the african uranium, was given to the British. Bush didnt lie, he probably never even saw the documents, he was just going be the information the British had, unless you believe in conspiracies.
The third point is debateable. I can bet the US could use those very same centrifuges to enrich uranium if we really wanted to.
The US was right about alot of stuff. For example, the drones.
Jesus Christ, have you not been paying attention to who's in office now? Bush avoided Vietnam, had a DUI, lied to start a war, and God knows what else. I'm sure he'll do enough to trump Clinton before his term is over, if he hasn't already and it hasn't been exposed or people like yourself are just too blind to see it.
Oh lord a DUI,
20 years ago.
I hate to say it but jesus christ you guys are pathetic...
If you are too blind to see the threat of iraq and the need for him to be removed then you my friend are blind to the facts...
Yeah...they weren't complaining about Clinton trying to redirect attention from his woes when he lobbed those cruise missiles.
If Iraq is such a threat, if G.W. is so just in his cause, why on God's green earth does he have to spew lies and propaganda to justify it for anyone else? I bet OBL is having a huge chuckle over this. G.W. played right into his hands using 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq. And in doing so Bush:
1. has pissed away all the international support we had after 9/11
2. is increasing anti-American sentiment at an unbelievable rate
3. has created huge rifts in the U.N. and NATO
Not to mention his administration is continually stripping US citizens of our rights and liberties and spreading more FUD about terrorism than the terrorsits themselves.
And by the way, I don't label myself liberal or conservative, republican or democrat, I just call things like I see them. All you idiots that do label yourselves and let that blind your judgement and define your alginments are the pathetic ones.
Concerning Al Queda links to Saddam, and if you don't think all these groups work together, you're crazy: Linky to article
Rob
Rob
wow, finally someone I can 100% agree with. Gonad, you're right.
Anyway... have you came to the idea that american media is trying to support Bush (ok... maybe not all). Its the same in other countries. Some newspapers are pro-american, some anti-american (I must admit that the latter one applies more often). It is always interesting to have a look at what the press is saying outside your country. Everything can be turned to be for or against something. (never trust a statistic you haven't faked yourself).
Anyway... have you came to the idea that american media is trying to support Bush (ok... maybe not all). Its the same in other countries. Some newspapers are pro-american, some anti-american (I must admit that the latter one applies more often). It is always interesting to have a look at what the press is saying outside your country. Everything can be turned to be for or against something. (never trust a statistic you haven't faked yourself).
Conservatives scream like stuck pigs. You can't say anything in the media that's even mildly liberal and they start screaming and threatening the networks the PBS funding, the advertizers, everybody. This is a right winged capitalist society run and financed by people with money at stake. Every reporter self sensors because he wants a job. Look at the kiss assed press core that shows up to throw Bush soft balls every time he speaks to them. Murdock is trying to silence hollywood now. people are like frogs an a slowly heating pot. They'll be cooked before they even know it.
Passed away international support?
Hmm why are there now 30 countries supporting it, may not be sending troops, but never the less...
The U.N. is totally irrelevant if it cannot hold a promise.
and it seems that if about 75% of the nation supports it, it is just by our standards.
Germany now allows U.S. to use air space... ?
Everyone is breaking down so they can all "chip" in.
Everyone is breaking down so they can all "chip" in.
Hmmm...
Number of journalists covering Whitewater who have been fired, transferred off the beat, resigned or otherwise gotten into trouble because of their work on the scandals (Doug Frantz, Jim Wooten, Richard Behar, Christopher Ruddy, Michael Isikoff, David Eisenstadt, Yinh Chan, Jonathan Broder, James R. Norman, Zoh Hieronimus): 10
Hmm... aren't there contracts about America using German airspace? Anyway, the problem in Germany is that if the chancellor critizises the USA that they start an "attack war" (don't know the english word for it... I'd say war without legal legitimation), they may sue him because he supports the USA (airspace). That would mean at least 10 years jail. That would probably apply to huge parts of the government.
Why do we need proofs when both of them are terrorists and hate Americans the same and would kill you just as effective. Bin Ladden will blow you us while Saddam will cut your tongue out for fun and rape your women.
Tell me a politician that does not tell lies. It's a matter of who tells the least lies that wins the elections.
Tell me a politician that does not tell lies. It's a matter of who tells the least lies that wins the elections.
reminds me of those times where witches were burned... what for proves? We know she is a witch, lets burn her!!! Or the proofs... if we tie her and throw her into the water, and she floats, she is a witch. If not... well, god bless her soul. I know, this comparison is very "adventurous". I dislike Saddam too, but with a bit more diplomacy towards the rest of the world the US would have MUCH more support, and maybe the war wouldn't have started yet, but in 6 months. But with financial and military support. And maybe with less losses on "our" side. Completely disarm them by the inspectors... a few weapons would be removed, even if they hide some, the less weapons, the less dead.
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