Why are ZIP disks so crappy?

downhiller80

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Why, oh why, do I have to reboot my machine (hard not soft) when I put a disk in to be able to read said disk?

This is not an isolated thing since the computers I use at college are the same. Both drives are internal IDE 100MB ZIPs.

Seb
 

fkloster

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I have been using zip drives for years without event. Currently I'm using Iomega's sweet external USB version! Make sure you have updated Iomega drivers....
 

Wizkid

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I had the same problem with my machine. Wheneven you switched disks, you would have to reboot for it to notice. It didn't what operating system I tried (95, 98, NT 4) it was always the same. The weird thing is, I sold it to my uncle and it worked perfect for him. His computer is running Windows 95 OSR 2.5.

Have you tried updating the iomega software?
 

Rigoletto

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Why oh why oh why use ZIP anyway? College computers must be old because CD-R has been better for years.
 

downhiller80

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college comps are (if you're lucky!) p2-366's. Most are P-100's!!

CD-R will never happen while I'm there . . .

Their OC connection is nice though . . .

Seb
 

andylawcc

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my WHOLE school (a college of 19000 students) use Zip 100, no such problem at all, if so we would be screaming like hell.
 

Thorn

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<< CD-R is not quite as quick &amp; easy as zip. (yet) >>



Yes it is... ever heard of packet writing? :)
 

Eug

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Yeah, packet writing sucks, especially if you ever plan on using those discs on somebody else's computer, since the software is proprietary. I use both CD-RW and ZIP and won't give up either. I use zip as a replacement for floppies and I use CD-R/CD-RW for archival purposes, backups, and stuff like that. I have since uninstalled DirectCD because it has a few software incompatibilities too, and I have no need for the idiosyncracies associated with it, since I have the much easier to use zip drive.


 

Cruisin1

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I work in the engineering labs at my school and all the computers are built with scsi zips built in. They work great and I've never seen a problem like you are experiencing. As for cd burners being used instead of zip drives I don't see why you would do that. In my schools case the scsi zips are faster than any cdr out not to mention you can use the zip drive just like a regular disk drive, no additional software program is required. Until burners get the ease of use of a zip drive I see no reason for schools to use them yet.
 

wazootyman

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I know what your problem probably is. Each Zip disk needs a unique label in order for the drive to recognize the change of disks. I originally had this problem too. What I did is just give each of my zip disks a number when I bought them, and have had absolutely no problems with it since. Let me know if this solves your problem; I bet it does...
 

Sillyputty

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noobs!

When I was in college, it was a BIG deal when someone showed up with a 486/33.

The next biggest deal was the 386/16 in the quad next to mine.

My computer was the 3rd biggest deal. a 286/8.

There were a few Mac SE's, but nothing else.

I was a pioneer amongst overclockers, too. I found a jumper on my mobo that allowed me to switch between 8MHz and 10MHz. I've been running that computer overclocked for 9 years. 9 years! Woo!

The only networking back then was SneakerNet.
 

NicColt

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I don't believe that you can lock and unlock cd-r yet that I am aware of like you do zip's.
until then zip still offers greater security I'm not saying that it's perfect but better.
 

Floyd

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&quot;Why are ZIP disks so crappy?&quot;

Gee, I'd rather someone explain why they're so friggin' expensive. Not the drives, but the disks.

Near as I can figure, it's the same reason why dogs lick their b@lls.

Because they can.

Best regards,
Floyd
 

Rigoletto

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Floyd,

a man walks into a bar and sees the proprietor's dog sitting licking his own balls.
The man says &quot;cor I wish I could do that&quot;.
The proprietor says &quot;throw him a biscuit and he will let you&quot;.

Are zip disks faster than CDRW?
Is there ANYTHING to recommend them nowadays? I can get one in a sale.
 

NicColt

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<< Is there ANYTHING to recommend them nowadays? I can get one in a sale. >>


Of course cr-rw-r are cheaper and have more space today but just two years ago it was more expensive than zip's. second, if you want to do simple day to day backups of a couple of files zip's are great, you can even do differential backups in the background, much faster than burning for just a couple of files. Also security you can lock the disk compared to the cd where you have to encryp the entire cd. I also use the norton zip rescue I can have my entire system up in 6 minutes after a total system crash and then do a restore. if your working with data under 100 megs fine but for large media cd-r is much better and cheaper. they both have their up's and downs.
 

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