This is the language that turns me off from political parties.
Each side is so convinced that the other is destroying the country and some members are so indoctrinated into the group think mentality that they'll defend any action their party takes and ignore any fallacy it commits.
This is where you're a 'centrist ideologue', making things up that are false.
That can happen, but it doesn't for everyone.
I'm not interested in that.
I'm not either, but you are just inventing it, so that's not a problem.
The beauty of our country is that I don't need to be a member of a party to make my opinion count. I walk into a polling booth and cast my vote depending on the candidate I find most closely aligns with my beliefs.
Why yes, party has nothing to do with the candidate! You just look at each person, and that's all that matters. Can't tell a thing about policies from party.
Look, if I were voting in New York City today, between Michael Bloomberg (Republican) and Ed Koch (famous Democrat),I'd vote for Bloomberg.
I rarely get that luxury, where the 'candidate' outweighs the party. Not for your fallacious reasons, but because party is a huge influence.
More for Republicans - we haven't had a more moderate Republican really since Nixon, and he was a traitor who blocked peace talks to win power, secretly expanded war, wanted to nuke people, had democracy overthrown and a brutal dictator installed in Chile for the benefit of his corporate supporters, and put his excrement all over the constitution for things from Cointelpro to Watergate.
Democrats vary more, from progressive to corporatist, though they're heavy on the corporatist since Clinton, except Gore.
In my opinion BOTH parties are destroying the country because we've silo-ed off particular political beliefs and agendas into these two major parties and neither is willing to compromise their beliefs or do what's ultimately right for the country in the interest of making the other party look bad. It's damaging, destructive, and only serves to divide the country into an "us vs. them" mindset.
Like so many centrists, you just love to create a false dilemma - oh no, the party won't comrpomise its views and do what's right for the country!
Oh, wait, you ASSUME that its views are wrong for the country. Well, with THAT assumption, your position makes sense. Nevermind it's wrong.
Ever hear the phrase false equivalency? It's one of the favorite fallacies of so-called 'centrists'. Why, if the right are corporate whores, the left must be whores too!
If we had a wide array of serious contenders every voting year (such as a Condorcet or Kemeny-Young style of voting) then I'd consider joining a party. However, outside of the two major parties, none have any serious chance of winning anything.
Correct. I support ranked voting to fix this, but you have a lot bigger problems with your understanding of the issues before you get to that.
Basically, you ignored my post to repeat your fallacies, and there's not much point talking to a wall repeatedly.
Take your position, and the organized guys - the 'worse' party - win. That does NOT require you to blindly be for the less bad side.
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