Why are they doing this?

[Dari]

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Why don't these two countries just go to war and get it over with?

As a wise man once said, "Justice delayed is justice denied."

And as Machiavelli once said, "War cannot be avoided but only put off to the advantage of others..."

Instead of enjoying the benefits of the times, one should enjoy the benefit of one's strength and prudence (paraphrasing Machiavelli).

 

[Orsorum]

Because North Korea knows that the moment they go to war, they're fvcked. Kim Jong Il's regime is barely surviving as it is, any military actions on his part would only serve to hammer the nail in his coffin (though it may take a while to fall).

 

[konichiwa]

We're quoting Machiavelli now? *shudders*

 

[AnImuS]

because both countries dont want to start back at zero.

 

[Dari]

North Korea has to meet her end somehow. It's better that it be short and painful rather than a long and steady decline. The latter is worse for everyone, especially the people of North Korea.

And Yes, we are quoting Machiavelli. I've read the Prince at least 5 times. It is the second most influential book in history. Now I'm reading Thoughts on Machiavelli.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Dari
North Korea has to meet her end somehow. It's better that it be short and painful rather than a long and steady decline. The latter is worse for everyone, especially the people of North Korea.

And Yes, we are quoting Machiavelli. I've read the Prince at least 5 times. It is the second most influential book in history. Now I'm reading Thoughts on Machiavelli.

Influential, maybe, but so was Mein Kampf. Influential doesn't necessarily mean true, progressive, applicable, positive or pertinent.

 

[judasmachine]

They don't go to war for the same reason you don't come to my front door, and I don't go to yours. And remember Machivelli was the perfect politician, not an idol.

 

[Siddhartha]

"Why don't these two countries just go to war and get it over with?"

Because war kills a lot of people, wrecks economies, and destabilizes political structures which leads to chaos.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Dari
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Why don't these two countries just go to war and get it over with?

As a wise man once said, "Justice delayed is justice denied."

And as Machiavelli once said, "War cannot be avoided but only put off to the advantage of others..."

Instead of enjoying the benefits of the times, one should enjoy the benefit of one's strength and prudence (paraphrasing Machiavelli).

What? Advocating war again? Surprise, surprise. Hey, when are you gonna pop a cyanide pill and check out of here? You're just gonna die anyway, right?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
"Why don't these two countries just go to war and get it over with?"

Because war kills a lot of people, wrecks economies, and destabilizes political structures which leads to chaos.

Ditto.

Again, Kim Jong Il will die eventually, but the costs for starting a war could be much worse, for both sides. A war can't be started without those thousands of pieces of artillery based along the DMZ being fired directly at Seoul. War is a no-win situation in a case like this.

 

[povertystruck]

Damn, some of you are ignorant. Dari is this a joke,'why dont these two countries just go to war and get it over with' No point in making fun of you here your answer. Millions of people could die. Seoul is South Korea's largest city(20 million I think), and is the closest to North Korea. The north have a huge artillery force that can easily hit Seoul ( Seoul is held hostage). Would you sacrifice the hostages? If so maybe you imigrate to North Korea or maybe Libya?


Oh and kiddies in case you dont know the C.I.A. say they think the north have nukes and missles that can hit the west coast of the U.S. nukes + long range missles =stalemate

North Korea has always been a bigger threat than Iraq ever was much bigger they either have nukes or a nuke or our almost there.

Alternative answer: watch or read the news.

 

[Zebo]

Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

Yeah, you got me. I tried but failed to hide my true self on the web. Woe is me

 

[povertystruck]

Dari asks an interesting question. Keep this thread alive, its hillarious.

 

[Moonbeam]

As a wise man once said, "Justice delayed is justice denied."

How does war delayed equal justice delayed?
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And as Machiavelli once said, "War cannot be avoided but only put off to the advantage of others..."

What proof is there that war cannot be avoided? Who says people know what is to their advantage? What is advantage?
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Instead of enjoying the benefits of the times, one should enjoy the benefit of one's strength and prudence (paraphrasing Machiavelli).

What are benefits and how do we know them to be real ones? What is strength and prudence? Aren't these ideas born from fear?
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Human beings are machines that function mechanically. A machine has only an illusion of a permanent self. In fact a new self continually replaces the one from moments before. Each different self springs to being from an emotion that procedes unconsciously. Without a self man is not real. Man is not real because he doesn't know what he feels.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

I thought Dari was the "starwars kid." No? At least, that's how I pictured him.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Zebo
Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

I thought Dari was the "starwars kid." No? At least, that's how I pictured him. ;P

Since we are giving our views of what posters look like.....
You know that vid clip of that monkey who is "relieving" itself? Thats how I picture you.

J/K

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Zebo
Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

I thought Dari was the "starwars kid." No? At least, that's how I pictured him. ;P

Dari dreams of a world where nothing can make him feel. His goal is a world were real life is completely dead. He seeks safety instead of the riches in the sea. Dari has been hurt and does not want to play. He wants to get even by locking his heart away. The only problem is he wants to lock us all away with him.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Zebo
Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

I thought Dari was the "starwars kid." No? At least, that's how I pictured him. ;P

Since we are giving our views of what posters look like.....
You know that vid clip of that monkey who is "relieving" itself? Thats how I picture you.

J/K

CkG

Caddy, you remind me of the video of the chimp who smells the fingers he's just had in his ass and falls out of his tree.

Too good to be true, and profoundly self impressed

 

[LunarRay]

Cad,
I'd be interested in how you picture me. Really, I would. I wonder about what folks really look like as I type and it sorta puts a picture in the minds eye.
Moonster you can't play.. it would be cheatin... and mom would get mad at you.... again..

 

[LunarRay]

I think Dari is asking the question "why are they doing this?" because like Machiavelli who said something like this; "injuries ought to be done all at one time, so that, being tasted less, they offend less; benefits ought to be given little by little, so that the flavour of them may last longer." I think I'm quoting him... the point being that; do it (war) and get it over with and slowly help them back (those left alive)... I think this is Dari's point.. but, how would I know... I know..

 

[Dari]

well since we're picturing people, I've pictured moonbeam to be this jobless underweight/underskilled loser that lives in the basement of his uncle's house. He doesn't believe in work because work is indicative of the ESTABLISHMENT. During his free time, of which he has a lot of, he reads up on philosophy and satire; smokes everything he can get his hand on, including toilet paper (before and after its been used); he ponders about his fantasy country that he's created (during smoking sessions); and finally, when his uncle lets him near the computer, moonbeam realizes his perverted fantasies by making cynical remarks on internet forums. Oh, and he's gay too.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I think Dari is asking the question "why are they doing this?" because like Machiavelli who said something like this; "injuries ought to be done all at one time, so that, being tasted less, they offend less; benefits ought to be given little by little, so that the flavour of them may last longer." I think I'm quoting him... the point being that; do it (war) and get it over with and slowly help them back (those left alive)... I think this is Dari's point.. but, how would I know... I know..

WE HAVE A WINNER. You're on point.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Zebo
Dari is mentally ill PS. He's the ugly fat kid everyone, even the girls, beat up in 6th grade. Now he projects his "manlyness" on the intraweb so we really think he's a big man not the sandbox kid.

I thought Dari was the "starwars kid." No? At least, that's how I pictured him. ;P

Since we are giving our views of what posters look like.....
You know that vid clip of that monkey who is "relieving" itself? Thats how I picture you.

J/K

CkG

Caddy, you remind me of the video of the chimp who smells the fingers he's just had in his ass and falls out of his tree.

Too good to be true, and profoundly self impressed

Hehe - I knew that one was coming back at me. But I'll tell you one thing - I won't be smelling my own @ss again....atleast infront of the camera that concrete floor is hard.

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Cad,
I'd be interested in how you picture me. Really, I would. I wonder about what folks really look like as I type and it sorta puts a picture in the minds eye.
Moonster you can't play.. it would be cheatin... and mom would get mad at you.... again..

CYPM The "Great Wizard of Oz" anyone?

But I picture your brother moonbeam as that sheep that is going through that chute but decides to jump...just at the wrong(or right) moment



CkG