Why are there no 1080i dvds?

MikeMike

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1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.
 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

wait 720p is better than 1080i??? I thought 1080 was like leaps and bounds ahead of 720p?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

wait 720p is better than 1080i??? I thought 1080 was like leaps and bounds ahead of 720p?

720p is 60 frames per second, that's the only advantage.

With a good deinterlacer you're not going to be able to tell the difference between 1080p/30 and 1080i/60. That's why 1080p/60 frames per second is so sweet, it's like 720p on steroids.
 

venkman

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

much fail in this post I sense.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

much fail in this post I sense.

much fail in this post I sense.

(either you or I win, but hey, atleast one of us wins)
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

WRONG


1080p > 1080i > 720p > 480p

and there is no 720i, but if there was it would be greater than 480p.
 

mchammer187

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Who cares

1080p> everything else

and in situations of 1080i vs 720p you don't have a choice anyway
 

venkman

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

much fail in this post I sense.

much fail in this post I sense.

(either you or I win, but hey, atleast one of us wins)

1080p and 1080i are completely indistinguishably from each other unless you have some retardedly bad deinterlacing going on. Some of the first HD DVD players took the 1080p content, outputed from the player at 1080i, and had the TV deinterlace it back to 1080p (assuming it was a 1080p/60 tv) and there was no visible difference between the PQ from the early HD DVD players to the later HD DVD players or BD equivalents that kept the content entirely in 1080p through the whole process.

720p is indistinguishably from the 1080s unless you have a massive screen and even then some blind comparisons on AVS between 1080 and 720 projectors firing up a 120"+ screen haven't shown much of a visible difference to trained eyes.

720p is massively different from 480p and I've never heard of 720i so I don't know what you are talking about.
 

0roo0roo

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there is no point.
even if for instance it was a video 1080i source they'd be better off doing the deinterlacing professionally than leaving it to the consumer device to make a mess of it.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

OMG

*punches wall
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

wait 720p is better than 1080i??? I thought 1080 was like leaps and bounds ahead of 720p?

depends, low motion 1080i has more detail. high motion and it turns to mud. so in the end its basically about the same.

now if its 1080i film source that you can reverse into 1080p then its superior. if its video 1080i or hard interlaced or some other botched nonsense then its never going to be 1080p.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

much fail in this post I sense.

much fail in this post I sense.

(either you or I win, but hey, atleast one of us wins)

1080p and 1080i are completely indistinguishably from each other unless you have some retardedly bad deinterlacing going on. Some of the first HD DVD players took the 1080p content, outputed from the player at 1080i, and had the TV deinterlace it back to 1080p (assuming it was a 1080p/60 tv) and there was no visible difference between the PQ from the early HD DVD players to the later HD DVD players or BD equivalents that kept the content entirely in 1080p through the whole process.

720p is indistinguishably from the 1080s unless you have a massive screen and even then some blind comparisons on AVS between 1080 and 720 projectors firing up a 120"+ screen haven't shown much of a visible difference to trained eyes.

720p is massively different from 480p and I've never heard of 720i so I don't know what you are talking about.

i doubt it, 1080p is double the resolution of 720p. on a 120" the pixel density of a 720p would be ridiculously low. you can already see the coarseness of the pixel structure on a 50" 720p plasma, forget a 120" screen. something was wrong with that "test".
 

venkman

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
1080p>720p > 1080i>480p>720i>

i was upest to learn that the steelers game was only 1080i, it could have looked so much better.

much fail in this post I sense.

much fail in this post I sense.

(either you or I win, but hey, atleast one of us wins)

1080p and 1080i are completely indistinguishably from each other unless you have some retardedly bad deinterlacing going on. Some of the first HD DVD players took the 1080p content, outputed from the player at 1080i, and had the TV deinterlace it back to 1080p (assuming it was a 1080p/60 tv) and there was no visible difference between the PQ from the early HD DVD players to the later HD DVD players or BD equivalents that kept the content entirely in 1080p through the whole process.

720p is indistinguishably from the 1080s unless you have a massive screen and even then some blind comparisons on AVS between 1080 and 720 projectors firing up a 120"+ screen haven't shown much of a visible difference to trained eyes.

720p is massively different from 480p and I've never heard of 720i so I don't know what you are talking about.

i doubt it, 1080p is double the resolution of 720p. on a 120" the pixel density of a 720p would be ridiculously low. you can already see the coarseness of the pixel structure on a 50" 720p plasma, forget a 120" screen. something was wrong with that "test".

What kind of crappy plasma do you have that you can see the pixel structure on it? Or are you standing IN the plasma. :p I haven't been keeping up with the projector game since I've been happy with my 720p projector and have no need to upgrade. If I did need a new projector today, it would be 1080p simply because the price difference is non existent compared to $2500 when I bought my 720p. There much more important issues to consider over resolution. Back before I had my projector, I went through two HDTVs, a 42" 1080p LCD and a 42" 720p plasma. I would take the plasma any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The PQ was MUCH, MUCH better.

As for the test, I can't find the link since it's a few years old now. It was done by some pretty well respected guys in the AVS community and they used pretty high end Marantz projectors for both. I don't recall any major test issues coming up in the very long thread it generated.
 

MikeMike

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meh, ill just say my Panasonic TH42PX700U is one hell of a TV :D

(need to recalibrate the coloring on it though)
 

0roo0roo

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well standing within reasonable distance from a big plasma of such sh*tty resolution you could see the pixels. at 50" its pretty damn big and spread thin after all. projectors have a blur factor of course hat might help a little. course some of those video people like to sit way back until any screen becomes a spec in the center of their vision for some reason, they seem to worship the old viewing distance figures that companies came up for viewing sdtvs.