Why Are The Progressives Pro Abortion If They Are Anti Death Penalty?

[zsdersw]

You have the right not to shove your penis inside a woman... and avoid all those scenarios.

Yeah, blowjobs avoid all sorts of complications.

 

[Texashiker]

You have the right not to shove your penis inside a woman... and avoid all those scenarios.

Shouldn't both parties have the same rights?

Yeah, blowjobs avoid all sorts of complications.

So does anal sex.

 

[nehalem256]

You have the right not to shove your penis inside a woman... and avoid all those scenarios.

If a woman avoids having "penii shoved in her vagina" she avoids the need for an abortion right?

Funny how if a Republican suggested if a woman doesn't want to avoid having a child she should keep an aspirin between her legs he is derided as engaging in a war on women.

So it seems you are conceding TexasHiker's point. Progressives are engaging in a war on men. :awe:

 

[zsdersw]

So does anal sex.

There are even fewer with blowjobs.

 

[Orignal Earl]

One thing progressives are not fond about is holding people responsible for their actions, unless that person happens to be a male.

Absolutely everything your complaining about started with choices you made

 

[Texashiker]

Absolutely everything your complaining about started with choices you made

Absolutely everything women are complaining about with abortion rights started with choices they made.

Absolutely everything death row inmates are complaining about started with choices they made.

 

[nehalem256]

Absolutely everything your complaining about started with choices you made

And what is your point. That is exactly the same thing Republicans say to women wanting abortions.

Progressives want women to get a "do-over", but then refuse the same right to men.

And for some reason think it is reasonable to impart equal* responsibility for rubbing your dick around for 10 minutes as CHOOSING to carry a fetus for 9 months.

Lets make an analogy. Lets say a woman buys her boyfriend a gun for his birthday. Then 9 months later he shoots someone with it. Should the woman be held equally liable for the murder?:hmm:

*actually greater as women can still abandon the child under safe haven laws.

 

[fskimospy]

Absolutely everything your complaining about started with choices you made

This has been gone over so many times. They want special privileges for men and are really upset that they can't get them.

 

[nehalem256]

This has been gone over so many times. They want special privileges for men and are really upset that they can't get them.

You mean like not being responsible for children that come out of a woman's body?

I have no issue with not making women responsible for the children that come out of a man's body. Equality for all!

 

[fskimospy]

You mean like not being responsible for children that come out of a woman's body?

I have no issue with not making women responsible for the children that come out of a man's body. Equality for all!

Sorry, no special privileges for you.

Everyone will be equally responsible for the child at all times. Truly, equality for all.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Absolutely everything women are complaining about with abortion rights started with choices they made.

Absolutely everything death row inmates are complaining about started with choices they made.

So why did you narrow your blame down to progressives?
Really looks to me like people from all walks of life do this

 

[Texashiker]

This has been gone over so many times. They want special privileges for men and are really upset that they can't get them.

When it comes to avoiding responsibility for your actions, men should have the same rights as women.

So why did you narrow your blame down to progressives?
Really looks to me like people from all walks of life do this

Usually, conservatives protect the innocent and kill the guilty.

While liberal progressives kill the innocent and protect the guilty.

 

[zsdersw]

Usually, conservatives protect the innocent and kill the guilty.

That's the most absurd thing I've seen on here in a while.

 

[Texashiker]

That's the most absurd thing I've seen on here in a while.

What is it you disagree with?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Usually, conservatives protect the innocent and kill the guilty.

While liberal progressives kill the innocent and protect the guilty.

Oh man...

Well.. I can sit and do this or I can make some cookies.
Got a hankering for some PB n choc chip chip today

 

[zsdersw]

What is it you disagree with?

You're making them look far more virtuous than they are. Both conservatives and liberals protect the innocent and punish the guilty... unless it's their ideological opponent who is innocent or one of their own who is guilty.

 

[Texashiker]

You're making them look far more virtuous than they are. Both conservatives and liberals protect the innocent and punish the guilty... unless it's their ideological opponent who is innocent or one of their own who is guilty.

Killing an unborn child without due process is protecting the innocent?

Protecting a convicted killer from the death penalty is punishing the guilty?

 

[fskimospy]

Usually, conservatives protect the innocent and kill the guilty.

While liberal progressives kill the innocent and protect the guilty.

I'm going to add you to the list of crazed, delusional paranoids with werepossum.

 

[Texashiker]

I'm going to add you to the list of crazed, delusional paranoids with werepossum.

What is it you disagree with?

Between an unborn child and a serial killer, progressives would rather see the unborn child killed.

Do you disagree that progressive liberals promote that agenda?

 

[Paul98]

What is it you disagree with?

Between an unborn child and a serial killer, progressives would rather see the unborn child killed.

Do you disagree that progressive liberals promote that agenda?

LMAO, where the hell do you come up with this BS?

 

[fskimospy]

What is it you disagree with?

Between an unborn child and a serial killer, progressives would rather see the unborn child killed.

This is an absurd straw man and you know it.

Actually I only think you know it. If you can't see what you're doing that's even worse because that indicates some genuine mental stability issues as opposed to just trying to act like a jerk on the internet.

 

[sportage]

Abortion is a personal matter with the need and consequence unique to the individual.
If a 14 year old teen is PG, then her health and life is totally not the business of others especially strangers that know not or will never know the 14 year old, the newborn, nor the circumstance of the pregnancy.

Besides, there is no such thing as "PRO ABORTION".

No one gets PG just for the fun of aborting.
There is no cozy or erotic feeling from getting an abortion.
I mean, Im a guy so I don't know for sure from personal experience, but I still would very much doubt so.

What they call it is PRO CHOICE, meaning the situation and decision is a personal matter.
And likely subject to some sort of law, meaning if the pregnancy is not desired, threatens health, was unplanned, then so the necessity.

A healthy mother with a healthy pregnancy doesn't abort a week before the birth nor because they realized the father was a mistaken romance.
An abortion happens only because the pregnancy was unintended, or was forced, or is not feasible due to health, financial, or age issues.
Believe me, most parents finding their 13/14 year old little girl pregnant, most parents regardless of religious convictions, most parents would want the abortion in this case.
And most likely, also the parents of the male involved.
Regardless of what they say, if their young child was in that situation, an abortion would happen, and with the blessing of the parent(s) of the pregnant children.
You can call this hypocrisy. Every day hypocrisy of the pro-life religious fellowship.

It happens every day. That pro-life religious family quietly seeking an abortion for a child.
God forbid the neighbors, school or church should find out that 12 year old child of theirs was pregnant. Or might have the child's future hopes at college and marriage threatened.

Death penalty, on the other hand, is the state killing in your name.
The stranger is never involved in another strangers abortion.
The circumstances.
But the state putting someone to death, with you as a citizen of that state, is a direct connection to personal involvement with that state lawful death.

You have no say in the decision of a stranger to find the need for an abortion.
You do have a say if your state lawfully put someone to death in your name with your blessing.

In a perfect world, that 13 year old child would have full support from not only the state with the full financial support to bring the unborn child to birth, but also support from friends and family.
But we all know this never happens outside of the imagined perfect world.

How many 13 year olds have you noticed or known of in a classroom that were pregnant?
Pregnant 12 year olds?
Pregnant 10 year olds?
None?
Why is that I wonder?
So never does a 10 year old child get pregnant? A 13 year old? A 12 year old? Really???

When society fully supports that 12 year old pregnant child to term, both financially as well as psychological, then maybe we can consider the strictest limits on abortion.
The sticking point is and will always be the money coming out of the tax payers pockets.
Surely, a caring pro-life God fearing citizen would have no trouble with supporting that pregnant child in every way necessary?
That is, in a perfect world.

That involves food stamps, welfare support, housing support, medical support and educational support.
Surely, everyone would want that 13 year old mother to be able to feed and house her baby, have all the needed taxpayer funded medical access, as well as the mothers continuing education support?
No?
So then, raising her baby in poverty is the second part of the pro-life game plan for this mother?
That, by the way, would not be that perfect world the pro-lifer lives in....

 

[Texashiker]

This is an absurd straw man and you know it.

Actually I only think you know it. If you can't see what you're doing that's even worse because that indicates some genuine mental stability issues as opposed to just trying to act like a jerk on the internet.

Are you going to attack me rather than debate the issue?

 

[fskimospy]

Are you going to attack me rather than debate the issue?

'Progressives would rather see unborn children killed than serial killers.'

'Are you going to attack me rather than debate the issue?'

 

[zsdersw]

Killing an unborn child without due process is protecting the innocent?

Protecting a convicted killer from the death penalty is punishing the guilty?

Over-simplistic generalizations (not to mention mischaracterizing what the actual positions are) are what you seem best at making.