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Why are the NBA playoffs so boring this year?

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: Aceshigh
It will be more interesting next year when Yao and the Rockets are in the playoffs. Count on it.

They had better be in the playoffs next year. If they don't make it, then they know that there must be some serious management of coaching issues. If they only ran their offense through the big man....but as long as they keep playing 1 on 1, it's going to be tough for them

that team is the dark horse next season, if they are good they can be very very good. but if they are inconsistent than they may not even make the playoffs.

 
If it were Lakers and Kings in the Western Conference Final, it'd be interesting to watch. Rivalries are always fun to watch.
 
Originally posted by: Reliant
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
you think the NBA playoffs have been boring this year? Maybe your problem is that you're watching the East Coast, not the West. I mean, the 3 time defending champions got knocked out, Dallas has gone to 2 7-game series, Dallas upsetted the Kings with an injured Chris Webber, Minnesota almost defeats the Lakers, Portland comes back down 3-0 to bring Dallas to 7, Detroit comes back to upset the Magic, Detroit comes back in the next series, Nets have manhandled everyone, Suns give the Spurs a little scare...I mean, this years playoffs have been crazy

dont forget the 3 time defending champions got knocked out with an injured rick fox and devean george 🙂 (cuz u did mention chris webber 😉)

Webber is better than Fox or George! The impact wasn't the same on the team. George filled in for Fox fairly well. He only missed one game or 2, and those injuries didn't really affect the series. The Kings lost their best player which made the Dallas/Sac series a whole lot more interesting than it would have been. 😛


with the lack of depth the lakers have, losing george and fox really hurted them. don't tell me fox and george sux. they're the best benchers the lakers have. and no george did not "spring" back after missing one game. his ankle got worst considerably. and kings really have no excuse. they are supposed to have the deepest bench in the NBA.
 
The NBA playoffs have been exciting until now, and may be exciting in the finals. The kings are my favorite team, followed closely by the Mavs. That series was fun to watch because it was an all-out scoring spree. And on a side-note BamBam215, the deepest bench in the league can't replace your MVP.

The San Antonio/Dallas series would have been a little better if Nowitzki hadn't gotten hurt. Even with Dirk in the line-up I thought they would get swept, so they have already surprised me. Now with Dirk hurt, I have to watch the most boring team in the league dominate a defenseless team who is lost without their star player.

The east series has been exciting, even the Nets series. I really like watching Jason Kidd. That kind of creativity with the ball is very rare, and a real joy to watch. I don't think they have much of a chance against the spurs, but I am hoping for a surprise. If they will just let Duncan get his points and defend the rest of the team, they might have a chance at making the series exciting.

With the Lakers out, these playoffs are already a dream come true for me. I think the Lakers will be the team to beat next year though. I'm afraid the loss may spark up the fire.
 
NHL is more exciting because they are unpredictable. The team with the hottest goalie usually wins. I mean how else do you explain a low sede like the Ducks beating what most people consider to be better teams in Dallas and Detroit?

In basketball, no one player can dominate a series like an NHL goalie. In the NBA it is about depth as much as quality. Shaq is widely considered the best player in the NBA, but the Lakers were ousted despite his good play.

Now you have your answer.
 
Originally posted by: wyvrn
I mean how else do you explain a low sede like the Ducks beating what most people consider to be better teams in Dallas and Detroit?

How about because the Ducks were one of the hottest teams in the 2nd half of the regular season? 😉
 
Yes, but WHY were they hot? Goalie play is the main reason. The rise of Giguere coincided with the rise of the Ducks.

For a more authoritative view, please read this.

A quote from the article:

Giguere has skewed the outcome of the playoffs with the most headshake-inducing performance in the crease since Patrick Roy's showing with the Canadiens in 1993, when he won 10 games in overtime. .....

.....The suddenly PC position to take of late is that the Ducks have had marvelous offensive balance and have played well in front of Giguere, but that's a bunch of smoke.

Jiggy has gotten the Ducks this far. His supporting cast is decent, and no more than that.
....

...What Giguere has done is lift a good, not great, team to a different level.

Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: wyvrn
I mean how else do you explain a low sede like the Ducks beating what most people consider to be better teams in Dallas and Detroit?

How about because the Ducks were one of the hottest teams in the 2nd half of the regular season? 😉

 
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: Reliant
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
you think the NBA playoffs have been boring this year? Maybe your problem is that you're watching the East Coast, not the West. I mean, the 3 time defending champions got knocked out, Dallas has gone to 2 7-game series, Dallas upsetted the Kings with an injured Chris Webber, Minnesota almost defeats the Lakers, Portland comes back down 3-0 to bring Dallas to 7, Detroit comes back to upset the Magic, Detroit comes back in the next series, Nets have manhandled everyone, Suns give the Spurs a little scare...I mean, this years playoffs have been crazy

dont forget the 3 time defending champions got knocked out with an injured rick fox and devean george 🙂 (cuz u did mention chris webber 😉)

Webber is better than Fox or George! The impact wasn't the same on the team. George filled in for Fox fairly well. He only missed one game or 2, and those injuries didn't really affect the series. The Kings lost their best player which made the Dallas/Sac series a whole lot more interesting than it would have been. 😛


with the lack of depth the lakers have, losing george and fox really hurted them. don't tell me fox and george sux. they're the best benchers the lakers have. and no george did not "spring" back after missing one game. his ankle got worst considerably. and kings really have no excuse. they are supposed to have the deepest bench in the NBA.

No bench can make up for a loss of your best player and leader. Webber was pretty much the only guy on the Kings that couldn't be replaced. All the other positions had decent replacements. You lose your leading scorer, rebounder, assist man etc. and you're team is screwed. Did the Lakers play a team with a dominant small forward? No. So Fox and George weren't missed too greatly. Losing Webber would be like losing a Shaq or a Kobe to the Lakers. It would be like losing a Duncan on the Spurs. The Kings have a great bench but when you lose your best player you're pretty much SOL.

 
I agree here. I think Sactown would have eliminated Dallas and then beaten SA in 7 had Webber stayed healthy. They have more depth than anyone in the NBA, but you simply cannot replace your star player with two solid role players who are good in limited action and not as starters.

Originally posted by: Reliant
Originally posted by: BamBam215
Originally posted by: Reliant
Originally posted by: gwlam12
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
you think the NBA playoffs have been boring this year? Maybe your problem is that you're watching the East Coast, not the West. I mean, the 3 time defending champions got knocked out, Dallas has gone to 2 7-game series, Dallas upsetted the Kings with an injured Chris Webber, Minnesota almost defeats the Lakers, Portland comes back down 3-0 to bring Dallas to 7, Detroit comes back to upset the Magic, Detroit comes back in the next series, Nets have manhandled everyone, Suns give the Spurs a little scare...I mean, this years playoffs have been crazy

dont forget the 3 time defending champions got knocked out with an injured rick fox and devean george 🙂 (cuz u did mention chris webber 😉)

Webber is better than Fox or George! The impact wasn't the same on the team. George filled in for Fox fairly well. He only missed one game or 2, and those injuries didn't really affect the series. The Kings lost their best player which made the Dallas/Sac series a whole lot more interesting than it would have been. 😛


with the lack of depth the lakers have, losing george and fox really hurted them. don't tell me fox and george sux. they're the best benchers the lakers have. and no george did not "spring" back after missing one game. his ankle got worst considerably. and kings really have no excuse. they are supposed to have the deepest bench in the NBA.

No bench can make up for a loss of your best player and leader. Webber was pretty much the only guy on the Kings that couldn't be replaced. All the other positions had decent replacements. You lose your leading scorer, rebounder, assist man etc. and you're team is screwed. Did the Lakers play a team with a dominant small forward? No. So Fox and George weren't missed too greatly. Losing Webber would be like losing a Shaq or a Kobe to the Lakers. It would be like losing a Duncan on the Spurs. The Kings have a great bench but when you lose your best player you're pretty much SOL.

 
Though I am a spurs fan, I think it's less exciting because the Lakers have lost already. It woulda been great to see them loose in the conference finals or even THE finals but they couldn't beat the Spurs... Just unfortunate but I'm still enjoying the playoffs 😀
 
Originally posted by: gwlam12
i think the most interesting part of the playoffs was seeing if the lakesr would 4-peat . that is gone now...so yea..the most interesting part is gone. but there are still good games going on.
actually, the most interesting part was seeing them get knocked off 😛

now the question is will the nets be the big boys, or will they get spanked like the stones? 🙁 (at least they picked up a second pick..) i dun wanna have to wait over a week to see game one tho..

edit: as for hockey playoffs, i think they are still more exciting than the nba's just due to importance of the sudden death overtime goal, and the price of one mistake. but answering the original question, the NBA playoffs have not been boring at all.
 
It is exciting when your team makes it and has a good chance of winning the finals. Actually, I have never watched a Nets game in years so I don't know about that good chance part.

GO SPURS GO!!!
 
Why does everybody think its because the Lakers are out? The Lakers aren't a very exciting team to watch. Kobe is the only player that can create plays, and those are 99% for himself and not his team. Their main strategy is to let Shaq use his size to back defenders down and do some of the lamest dunks you will see, and all the while walking the line of offensive fouls. Its like watching Holyfield challenge a group of 2nd graders to a fist fight. Any force that needs to be used to stop him is called a foul. The spurs are as exciting to watch as the Lakers. They actually have very similiar strategies.
 
im not gonna argue whether it hurted the kings more to lose webber or the lakers to lose both of their small forwards. that's like comparing apples to oranges. but it REALLY hurted the lakers to lose both fox and george. i mean sh*t, phil had to play medvedenko (who i think should have more playing time anyways). basically phil played people in the SA series who rarely stepped a foot on the court in the regular season.

of course im not gonna argue that the lakers could have really defeated SA in 7 games based solely on the two injured SF. lakers were playing too lazy and passive. but there might have been a possibility of a game 7 in which the lakers would probably have lost anyways. it's a good wake up call to kupchak and the laker franchise that it's time to go young, not old.

BTW, i know everybody is happy that lakers lost. and it really does sucks for us LA fans. but still you can't beat the frustration that kings fan have for still not being able to win a championship considering the amount of $$$ and good players they have on their squad 😉
 
Originally posted by: lastig21
Why does everybody think its because the Lakers are out? The Lakers aren't a very exciting team to watch. Kobe is the only player that can create plays, and those are 99% for himself and not his team. Their main strategy is to let Shaq use his size to back defenders down and do some of the lamest dunks you will see, and all the while walking the line of offensive fouls. Its like watching Holyfield challenge a group of 2nd graders to a fist fight. Any force that needs to be used to stop him is called a foul. The spurs are as exciting to watch as the Lakers. They actually have very similiar strategies.

lakers are the BEST and MOST exciting team to watch; one quarter out of 4 that is. as a laker fan, i absolutely HATE watching them play their sh*tty 3 quarters. but they always manage to spring back in the 4th in amazing fashion. i hope i can enjoy watching them play 4 straight quarters next season.



btw i think the nets are so boring to watch. it's always kid dishing to someone. and then we have mr. KMART doing some super slam dunk, from a dish from kidd of course. dish, dunk, dish, dunk..zz.....
 
Yeah, I really felt this was Sac's year. With the improving players on San Antonio, and the revenge LA will be set out for next year, I'm not sure that Sac will be able to compete with the West's big men next year. An aging Vlade is contributing less and less.
 
Originally posted by: lastig21
Yeah, I really felt this was Sac's year. With the improving players on San Antonio, and the revenge LA will be set out for next year, I'm not sure that Sac will be able to compete with the West's big men next year. An aging Vlade is contributing less and less.

sac has the skills to win but i still do not believe they have the mentality to take it all. i mean seriously kings should have beaten the mavs even with an injured webber. as much as i hate to admit it, i still think they're that good without webber. but like i said, they dont have the winning mentality.

 
Originally posted by: lastig21
Why does everybody think its because the Lakers are out? The Lakers aren't a very exciting team to watch. Kobe is the only player that can create plays, and those are 99% for himself and not his team. Their main strategy is to let Shaq use his size to back defenders down and do some of the lamest dunks you will see, and all the while walking the line of offensive fouls. Its like watching Holyfield challenge a group of 2nd graders to a fist fight. Any force that needs to be used to stop him is called a foul. The spurs are as exciting to watch as the Lakers. They actually have very similiar strategies.

it's the shaq and kobe show vs team basketball with the spurs.

it's all about showboat in the nba today...dunks and more dunks. that's why the europeans schooled the Dream Team, b/c they played team basketball. granted kobe, shaq, garnett, etc wasn't there, but team usa wasn't all scrubs either.
 
Originally posted by: m2kewl
Originally posted by: lastig21
Why does everybody think its because the Lakers are out? The Lakers aren't a very exciting team to watch. Kobe is the only player that can create plays, and those are 99% for himself and not his team. Their main strategy is to let Shaq use his size to back defenders down and do some of the lamest dunks you will see, and all the while walking the line of offensive fouls. Its like watching Holyfield challenge a group of 2nd graders to a fist fight. Any force that needs to be used to stop him is called a foul. The spurs are as exciting to watch as the Lakers. They actually have very similiar strategies.

it's the shaq and kobe show vs team basketball with the spurs.

it's all about showboat in the nba today...dunks and more dunks. that's why the europeans schooled the Dream Team, b/c they played team basketball. granted kobe, shaq, garnett, etc wasn't there, but team usa wasn't all scrubs either.



team USA was a joke. it was second tier nba players. i mean andre miller was on there. wasn't jayson williams on there also? come on! the guy was a rookie last year and he was on team USA? i admit they did went into it a bit cocky but it wasn't necessarily a good representation of our best players either.

 
Found the roster for the 2002 Team USA

Paul Pierce
Michael Finley
Andre Miller
Ben Wallace
Baron Davis
Shawn Marion
Elton Brand
Jermaine O'Neal
Antonio Davis
Reggie Miller
Jay Williams



Great bunch of guys don't get me wrong. But hardly a good representation of our absolute BEST.
 
Originally posted by: BCYL
Maybe it's all the excitement we get from the NHL playoffs, the NBA playoffs simply pale in comparison...

Also do you notice there's rarely any upsets in the NBA... whereas in the NHL upsets is the story this year in the playoffs...

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Yea, the NHL playoffs are so exciting... I had no idea their post season was still going on.

Link to bracket.. Well, just taking a glance, there were the upsets by:
- Dallas
- Boston
- Los Angeles Lakers

Almost every other series gave the better team a scare.... there have only been two sweeps so far, and that was by NJ.
 
Originally posted by: BamBam215
team USA was a joke. it was second tier nba players. i mean andre miller was on there. wasn't jayson williams on there also? come on! the guy was a rookie last year and he was on team USA? i admit they did went into it a bit cocky but it wasn't necessarily a good representation of our best players either.

getting fifth place was a joke. don't tell me they couldn't of at least medalled.
 
Originally posted by: m2kewl
Originally posted by: lastig21
Why does everybody think its because the Lakers are out? The Lakers aren't a very exciting team to watch. Kobe is the only player that can create plays, and those are 99% for himself and not his team. Their main strategy is to let Shaq use his size to back defenders down and do some of the lamest dunks you will see, and all the while walking the line of offensive fouls. Its like watching Holyfield challenge a group of 2nd graders to a fist fight. Any force that needs to be used to stop him is called a foul. The spurs are as exciting to watch as the Lakers. They actually have very similiar strategies.

it's the shaq and kobe show vs team basketball with the spurs.

it's all about showboat in the nba today...dunks and more dunks. that's why the europeans schooled the Dream Team, b/c they played team basketball. granted kobe, shaq, garnett, etc wasn't there, but team usa wasn't all scrubs either.
First off, don't say Dream Team... because that team that represented the US was absolute CRAP compared to the REAL Dream Team of '92. That team was the most amazing group of players (with the exception of Christain Lattner heh) that ever been on the same team.

 
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