Why are textbooks so impossible to read?

djheater

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I can read 250 pgs of a novel in a night, but it's like pulling teeth if I have to read more than a chapter of just about any textbook... seriously.

/hates dry "educational" text, even when the subject is interesting...
 

zinfamous

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take notes as you read. most textbooks need to be re-read. that's kinda the point.
 

Crono

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Most textbooks try to be exhaustive rather than teach the basic thoroughly. That's why quick and dirty guides, like the "Dummies" and "Idiots" series' (which are very helpful even for very intelligent and successful students) are useful. Some textbooks can be well written, but for the most part its hard to explain everything you need to know concisely and in an interesting manner.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Try being less stupid and you'll understand it better.

I've tried but I'm as less stupid as I'm going to get and they're still boring.
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
take notes as you read. most textbooks need to be re-read. that's kinda the point.

This helps me too. It's something to do rather than just sitting (falling asleep) and reading the text, plus once you have notes you don't need to reread that part of the textbook ever again, really helpful when it comes time for exams.
 

lokiju

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Man all technical books do this to me.

I love reading for fun but as soon as I crack open a technical book to study or read up on something it's like I've been drugged with sleeping meds.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon
Originally posted by: zinfamous
take notes as you read. most textbooks need to be re-read. that's kinda the point.

This helps me too. It's something to do rather than just sitting (falling asleep) and reading the text, plus once you have notes you don't need to reread that part of the textbook ever again, really helpful when it comes time for exams.

yeah. most people learn best through the physical act of writing down the info, yet they don't realize it.

It took me a while to figure that out.
 

Shadow Conception

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Our world history teacher had us read a chapter of the AP Euro textbook, and holy crap, it was nuts. Why all the big words? You can teach European history using regular, everyday English.
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Deeko
Try being less stupid and you'll understand it better.

I've tried but I'm as less stupid as I'm going to get and they're still boring.

This made me :laugh:

:beer:
 

Jeff7

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It probably depends on how interested you are in the subject matter. I loved reading the Homeworld manual, mainly the section of ship stats. Or way back in elementary school, Isaac Asimov had some short books in his Library of the Universe collection, books on the planets. My favorite part of those was the Fact Sheet at the back, that was just charts of data about each planet. Diameter, orbital period, composition, # of moons, and so on. My 4th grade teacher gave me a perfect score for the section on the planets because I knew the material better than her. I had those books damn near memorized.

But switch to my Project Management for Engineers course last semester. Oh god.....that textbook did literally put me to sleep twice. I don't think I read more than 10 pages of it the entire semester.
Fortunately, that class didn't really require much effort, or much more than 50 functioning brain cells. There was ONE formal homework assignment the entire semester. The other work consisted of a program called SimProject, where we had to hire imaginary people and allocate them to imaginary tasks for an imaginary project. It wasn't especially detailed. Each person had sets of "stats" about their performance. I wrote an efficiency-evaluator spreadsheet, and determined who would give the best performance for the cost.

My group was #1 in the class, up until we discovered a fun "feature" of the software. When hiring people, clicking "Hire Resource" queues the hiring until you click "Submit Decisions," which sends all completed decisions to the server for processing. However, when you click "Fire Resource," it takes place immediately, and those resources can't be hired back for two more periods. This was discovered after those resources were fired.
So we fell down to #5 in a single period, since our imaginary project team had suddenly lost more than half of its members.

Besides that, there was a semester-long project. It was a lot of mindless writing and busywork. At least that was my perception of it.
I got an A- in the class, probably because my cumulative time spent prepping for the tests, including the final, was less than an hour.

 

darkxshade

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:light:

I just thought of an awesome business idea... textbooks in the style of ATOT threads. Just think of how much shit you'll read when formatted in this way. :p


edit: I'm going to patent this idea, don't even think about it.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: Deeko
Try being less stupid and you'll understand it better.

I've tried but I'm as less stupid as I'm going to get and they're still boring.

This made me :laugh:

:beer:

:beer::beer:

I do sometimes have a couple of beers while studying... even though alcohol interferes with the formation of memory... still... I can keep at it a little longer with a couple of beers in me.