Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly liberal?

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Genx87
I think if you look at most boards they break down the same way. Liberals tend to have a bigger mouth and are happy to use it. Rarely do you see conservatives out pissing and moaning about things like a liberal. We tend to piss and moan in private and damn the world!

Watch the conventions. RNC will be protested like there is no tomorrow. I dont know about the DNC, but I suspect if there are any protesters they will be ultra lefties pissed off at how centrist Obama has become.

Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter
Bill O'Rielly
Sean Hannity
Newt Gingrich

yep, liberals are the ones who piss and moan all right...:roll:

The people you mention piss and moan for profit. I think he was referring to conservatives who visit forums.

Like there's a difference?

Don't you know that according to...some of our members, many of the conservative posters we have here ARE paid to post on these internet forums? Kinda like paid shills...or paid trolls, as the case may be.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Meh, I wouldn't put Moonie in that list.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Speaking of assholes. The difference is you go out of your way to be one:laugh:

And here I thought nobody appreciated me...

Or maybe it's just that you can smell your own kind, eh Red?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Meh, I wouldn't put Moonie in that list.

I wouldn't have either until recently. I used to think he was fairly insightful and found it interesting to read his posts. Lately he's taken to directly attacking libertarians because they're not voting for Obama.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Meh, I wouldn't put Moonie in that list.

I wouldn't have either until recently. I used to think he was fairly insightful and found it interesting to read his posts. Lately he's taken to directly attacking libertarians because they're not voting for Obama.

Because they're wrong?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Speaking of assholes. The difference is you go out of your way to be one:laugh:

And here I thought nobody appreciated me...

Or maybe it's just that you can smell your own kind, eh Red?

I'm more biased than you. I hate the Republicans and put up with the Democrats because they hate the Republicans too. You on the other hand hate them all:thumbsup:

 

[sandorski]

Liberals generally are more Intelligent, or probably more accurately, inquisitive and curious. Argumenets devolve into name-calling and other shenanigrany for other reasons. Frustration being a big part of it, one can only put up with a certain amount of crap before they say "Fuck it".

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: sandorski
<snip> ...or probably more accurately, inquisitive and curious. <snip>

This is an excellent sentiment in my opinion as it matches my daily experience with conservative folks; they're not necessarily less intelligent or less educated at all, in many cases quite the opposite. It's that they're simply less inquisitive by nature and therefore more accepting of the status quo.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

 

[Trianon]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

well, and here am I, 10+ years in microelectronics, working for military/aerospace supplier, MSEE, still supporting liberal views, also I do appreciate conservative argument in some areas.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Trianon

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

well, and here am I, 10+ years in microelectronics, working for military/aerospace supplier, MSEE, still supporting liberal views, also I do appreciate conservative argument in some areas.

In nearly 15 years as a software developer I've actually run into more people in this line of work who are libertarian minded than those who consider themselves solidly liberal or conservative.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Trianon

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

well, and here am I, 10+ years in microelectronics, working for military/aerospace supplier, MSEE, still supporting liberal views, also I do appreciate conservative argument in some areas.

In nearly 15 years as a software developer I've actually run into more people in this line of work who are libertarian minded than those who consider themselves solidly liberal or conservative.

I could agree with that. There are definitely more libertarian type people than Liberal from what I've seen in my field.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: spidey07
As already pointed out it's very simple. The overwhelming age of members is young. That means they're liberal. Most of them will change as they get older.

Under 30 think with your heart, over 30 think with your head.

Not supported by studies. Try again.

The only data that I can see are those that support what I already want to believe.

Here's one.

this doesn't really prove much. First off, I'd like to see the actual data rather than a report on it.

more importantly you have this "While the surveys did not provide data for the same individuals at different stages, they represented snapshots of the changing attitudes of respondents in different age cohorts over time."

So rather than comparing the individuals as they go through time, they are comparing the liberalism of the nation.

This seems to imply to me that it the nation as a whole has moved more towards liberalism rather than individuals changing as they get older. But it is hard to analize without seeing the actual numbers.

Well I think that the nation as a whole is pretty much always becoming more liberal, at least in a social sense. (that's one of the great things about being a social liberal, you almost always win in the end) Anyways, the study isn't perfect, I just thought it was relevant.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Speaking of assholes. The difference is you go out of your way to be one:laugh:

Pot/kettle.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

I guess that would depend location? I work for a Fortune 300 company in NJ and I would say the opposite is true. Most of the people I work with (this is in our corporate hq BTW) are liberal/libertarain.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

I guess that would depend location? I work for a Fortune 300 company in NJ and I would say the opposite is true. Most of the people I work with (this is in our corporate hq BTW) are liberal/libertarain.

You work in the Automation Engineering world for a fortune 300 company?

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

I guess that would depend location? I work for a Fortune 300 company in NJ and I would say the opposite is true. Most of the people I work with (this is in our corporate hq BTW) are liberal/libertarain.

You work in the Automation Engineering world for a fortune 300 company?

We are only talking about Automation Engineers now?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

I guess that would depend location? I work for a Fortune 300 company in NJ and I would say the opposite is true. Most of the people I work with (this is in our corporate hq BTW) are liberal/libertarain.

You work in the Automation Engineering world for a fortune 300 company?

We are only talking about Automation Engineers now?

The part you bolded sure was.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

I guess that would depend location? I work for a Fortune 300 company in NJ and I would say the opposite is true. Most of the people I work with (this is in our corporate hq BTW) are liberal/libertarain.

You work in the Automation Engineering world for a fortune 300 company?

We are only talking about Automation Engineers now?

The part you bolded sure was.

You think automation engineers in the North East have the same views as those where you come from?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: jonks


And the fundamental misunderstanding continues.....

Reasonable conjecture BASED ON OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE vs guessing games and whole-cloth fabrication about god, religion and creation. you don't see the difference? Eh, just go re-read the big bang thread.

And that's some hubris on your part to think that you are able to pick apart over 80 years of scientific work on a theory.

AGAIN, liberal critical thinking at its finest. Of course I see a difference but you just put words into my mouth.

And yes I can pick apart 80 years of scientific work on a theory. You wanna know how? Its against the laws of physics and nature to be able to create matter, space, energy, and everything else which can be read on scientific meters because its impossible for such things to be created out of nothingness. Even if the galaxies came from a single point in space, it makes no difference. There had to be a "beginning" where this stuff came into existence. It's against our scientific laws for it to create itself out of nothing. Everything else is just speculation or guessing. 80 years of guessing doesn't get you past that simple fundamental problem. No matter how much anti matter, dark matter, theory xyz's, alternate universes you throw at a problem. Its still all bullshit.

So over 80+ years the most brilliant minds on the planet put forth a scientific theory based on observable evidence in our universe and yet, you, YOU!, are able to pick it apart from your couch. Did you ever stop and think for just a minute that maybe there's something wrong with your position, and not, oh, every scientist in the world? Maybe, just maybe, you don't quite understand exactly what you are relegating to the realm of bullshit.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Trianon
to be involved in technology one is required to have good reasoning skills and use logic

:roll: This is highly untrue but then again this thread is nothing but flamebait. In the industry I work in( PLC programming/Automation Engineering) you would be hard pressed to find an actual liberal. Sure there are some semi-libs and some centrists but from what I've seen the majority are Conservative in nature. Oh, and btw, we do logic and reasoning. It's what we do every day.

Sheesh, what's with all the moronic threads lately. most Christian...troop donations, fiscal presidents, and this one. :roll:

I guess that would depend location? I work for a Fortune 300 company in NJ and I would say the opposite is true. Most of the people I work with (this is in our corporate hq BTW) are liberal/libertarain.

You work in the Automation Engineering world for a fortune 300 company?

We are only talking about Automation Engineers now?

The part you bolded sure was.

You think automation engineers in the North East have the same views as those where you come from?

The one's I've worked with were little different than the ones around here. The one's I've worked with on the west coast were largely the same as well.
I'm just sharing my experience with the people in my field which is all about logic and reasoning.
Take it or leave it...

 

[Jhhnn]

Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly Liberal?

Because the efforts of the Far Right decree that anybody who's not them is "Liberal" or "Leftist"- which is really most of the population.

Even self-styled "Conservatives" don't hold truly "conservative" views when dealing with real issues, one at a time, set outside of the usual talk radio framing.

If that's a little hard to swallow, don't blame me, blame yourself for a lack of introspection, self examination and critical thinking skills.

Or not. Re-read another Ayn Rand book, tune in to Rush, or Hannity, or just Faux News- get those emotions in an uproar so they'll be able to tell you what to think...

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: jonks

So over 80+ years the most brilliant minds on the planet put forth a scientific theory based on observable evidence in our universe and yet, you, YOU!, are able to pick it apart from your couch. Did you ever stop and think for just a minute that maybe there's something wrong with your position, and not, oh, every scientist in the world? Maybe, just maybe, you don't quite understand exactly what you are relegating to the realm of bullshit.

Yep. I am able to pick it apart from my couch. What else do you want me to pick apart? Carbon dating? I can do that too. I can pick apart most things... Thats how people gain wisdom. Observe, question, and refine, with an open mind and use their critical thinking. I've been observing big bang and all these other theories for quite some time, 15 years or so. And they can't even answer the most basic questions. But people ignore those most basic questions and just continue down the road ignoring previous hurdles like they are on a mission, a misguided mission. To me, thats not progress. They need to go back to the first hurdle and jump over it, and then continue. Otherwise no matter how many theories, or dimensions or anything else they pull from their ass won't mean a damn thing.

But we can agree to disagree. There is no point discussing more.

 

[manowar821]

I think a more appropriate question would be:

"Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly less full of propaganda guzzling retards?"

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: jonks

So over 80+ years the most brilliant minds on the planet put forth a scientific theory based on observable evidence in our universe and yet, you, YOU!, are able to pick it apart from your couch. Did you ever stop and think for just a minute that maybe there's something wrong with your position, and not, oh, every scientist in the world? Maybe, just maybe, you don't quite understand exactly what you are relegating to the realm of bullshit.

Yep. I am able to pick it apart from my couch. What else do you want me to pick apart? Carbon dating? I can do that too. I can pick apart most things... Thats how people gain wisdom. Observe, question, and refine, with an open mind and use their critical thinking. I've been observing big bang and all these other theories for quite some time, 15 years or so. And they can't even answer the most basic questions. But people ignore those most basic questions and just continue down the road ignoring previous hurdles like they are on a mission, a misguided mission. To me, thats not progress. They need to go back to the first hurdle and jump over it, and then continue. Otherwise no matter how many theories, or dimensions or anything else they pull from their ass won't mean a damn thing.

But we can agree to disagree. There is no point discussing more.

No, you really can't pick apart the theory. I invite you to try though. While it is certainly not airtight, I would love for you to put forth your best efforts to disprove it and if possible provide an alternative explanation.

In addition, please do that for carbon dating too. I can't wait until you start linking to answersingenesis.com.