why are suv hated so much?

[slag]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
i think the ford escape are about the same size as the orignal ford explorers. the ford explorers have really gotten bigger over the years.

not even close. The original explorers are much larger than the escapes

 

[skyking]

I feel like a hypocrite. I was not a "hater" per se, but did bitch about the single person in the big V-8 unit, or the PPP ( pampered pavement pickup) with the huge mudders and lift kit that you KNOW never went offroad!!
We got our first new auto, and it is an SUV. I am installing a hitch kit and we checked out pop-up travel trailers at a recent RV show, so it's not so bad😉

 

[imported_Pablo]

HEY ZIM, TOSS ME A BEER!

 

[TwinkleToes77]

Originally posted by: Eli
I think it's mostly just the people that drive SUVs yet have no need for them.

And what about people who drive sports cars? They have a need for that?

 

[Lumathix]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: dartworth
since when is it about driving what we need...fvcking mind your own business...

Peak oil makes it my business.

Also, when SUV drivers park their monstrosities in the compact spots and I can only open my door 8 inches to get out, that makes it my business.

Then you should be angry at the driver that parked in a compact spot, not the car. You people that believe an SUV is a living entity astound me.

 

[Lumathix]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
Why do people hate suv so much? I can see for one how people drive suv's like they handle just like cars. sometime going to school, getting off the highway and going onto 16 mile rd, it like 90 degree right turn, i'll see people in suv and regular ol car try taking that turn at like 40mph.

I don't hate SUVs. I hate stupid people that do dumb stuff....whether it's in an SUV or a friggin Mini Cooper. Why do you haters hate an inanimate object. It's the driver that drives wrecklessly, the damn SUV isn't telling the driver what to do behind the wheel.

Think I'm full of it? Listen to any accident report on the news involving an SUV. It will be proposed as if the SUV was at fault, not the jackass behind the wheel. People are stupid.

And fyi I drive an audi a6, not an suv.

 

[0roo0roo]

crash incompatible with cars. the drivers drive them as if they were cars.

 

[MagicConch]

There is a good reason to hate every type of car IMO. I've hated Porshes and their silly drivers (who think they own a Ferrarri) long before there were SUVs.

 

[kalster]

most people buy them for stupid reason, almost everytime I see a skinny chic get out of a SUV, offroading my @ss

 

[Blueoak]

Originally posted by: miri
1) Like 90% of the SUVs on the road do not have mud guards meaning I have to have a big distance between my car and the SUV unless I want rocks flying into my windshield.

2) Block viewing distance, have to drive way far behind in order to get a good viewing distance.

3) They use more gas, creating more demand for gas, more demand means higher prices, so I have to pay more in gas thanks to SUVs driving up the demand.

4) When I pull out of a parking spot and I have a SUV parked next to me I cant see anything and have to pull out super slow.

5) Gigantic and dangerous to cars in collision.

x2

 

[shimsham]

i dont hate suvs, i hate the idiot assholes that cant drive them correctly. mostly soccer moms blabbing on cell phones, but some idiot men too.

 

[0roo0roo]

worse is those raised trucks. its like suv x10. all designed safety features like bumper/crumple zones whatever are defeated by the idiots vanity. tend to drive like maniacs too.

 

[db]

People who are not followers hate SUVs b/c of what owning a SUV represents: a fad.

 

[PandaBear]

Many reasons to hate:

loud
pollution
waste gas, so gas price goes up
dangerous to others in an accident
flip too easily and endanger others
block others' view
used up others' parking space
many suv drivers cut infront of people just because they are big

 

[Ready]

Originally posted by: PandaBear
Many reasons to hate:

loud
pollution
waste gas, so gas price goes up
dangerous to others in an accident
flip too easily and endanger others
block others' view
used up others' parking space
many suv drivers cut infront of people just because they are big

nicely summed up
:thumbsup:

 

[Apex]

Because all of the cool kids hate them. It's much the same reason Microsoft is hated.

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: Ornery
They don't need an SUV, but I need:

• To cruise aimlessly all weekend ("Hey, my pollution shlt don't stink!")
• A turbo
• Low profile tires
• A spoiler
• Ground effects
• Manual tranny
• Tinted windows
• 4" Exhaust tip (Talk about compensating :roll: )
• 400Watt Amp & 15" sub
• To commute 2 hours per day ("Hey, my pollution shlt don't stink!")

Face it, you're hypocrites to the Nth degree! And, face this. Some people are sick to fvcking death of the FWD, econobox, offerings from Japan and Detroit. This is why 50% of new vehicle sales are TRUCKS! They don't need a truck, but they sure as hell don't WANT anything like your one lung, buzzy, puddle jumper either!

:thumbsup:

:beer:

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: db
People who are not followers hate SUVs b/c of what owning a SUV represents: a fad.

Fads generally don't last over 10 years, dude.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: smack Down
Here is some ASCII because you can't figure it out your self
SUV: -----------
miniVan: _________
Notice that an SUV is higher up which causes it to hit smaller cars in weaker sections.

Here's something you apparently can't figure out that I was saying: Most SUV's aren't any higher than the minivans.

If by SUV you only mean Expeditions and Tahoes, then yes, they are higher.

But if you're talking about all the little Jap SUV's, Escapes, etc, then they aren't significantly higher than a minivan, and therefore aren't any more of a danger to other cars than a minivan would be.
There are three SUV's in the top 10 sellers. Explorer, Blazer, and Cherokee. Park any of those three next to a minivan and tell me how much higher their bumpers are, then get back to me.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Not really a valid comparison, the "max cargo" of a minivan assumes all the rear seats are removed, therefore it is useless as a people hauler. Only 2 people can ride when you are set up for "max cargo".
The SUV's assume you either fold or remove the 3rd seat, and you can still haul 4-5 people.
So to clarify, an SUV can haul more people AND cargo at the same time. Maybe you can actually get more stuff in a minivan, but to do so, you turn it into a cargo van.
I have an SUV because I have 2 kids, and go on long trips, heavily loaded, sometimes with extra people.
Plus I have a race truck to tow.
But a lot of the time, it's only 1,2 or 4 people riding around in it. So no, most people don't just buy a Suburban to ride around in. They generally have a use for it, even if the use is limited.
If I bought a pickup instead, then I could still tow my race truck, but you could forget taking the family to Disneyworld in it. I could find a use for the bed sometimes, but overall, I'm better off with the SUV than a pickup. After all, it's the same thing, just the rear is enclosed.

The same thing goes for SUVs. Though tell me exactly how you know the ratings for max cargo space? How do you know exactly how max cargo and max luggage space is calculated? I'm guessing that you're making an educated guess. SUV's arn't that much larger that they have nearly 75% of the cargo space of a minivan when the SUV is carrying 4-5 people and luggage. Most likely the way in which they rate the cargo spaces is very similar, because the vehicles are simliar in size. Unless SUVs have some magical way of storing stuff.
But I do understand what you're saying.

Yes, most people do buy SUVs to ride around in as their daily drivers. With or without their family. I'm not sure how you can deny that in anyway. I drive a minimum of 1000 miles a week, the vast majority of SUVs I see are nearly empty and arn't towing anything. Most are used for family movers and daily drivers and are not utilized for what they are worth. You really can't deny that either.

You have a good reason to own onw I guess good for you, the majority of people do not. It's just a matter of wants vs. needs. In America we know how that pans out. I just hope rising gas prices make daily SUV use very restrictive.

Think of it this way: If you need an SUV or truck to tow your boat or race car, you don't need it to tow the thing every day. Chances are you need it only for the weekends.
But chances also are, you can't afford to have the SUV or truck just to pull the boat and something smaller to drive to work.
So you see people driving by themselves to work in SUV's.
Simple as that.

Now are there people who simply buy a big SUV because they like it and don't intend to haul anything but ass? Sure.
But I'm willing to bet the farm that the vast majority of people who buy the bigger SUV's actually need either the space, pulling power, or both.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: miri
1) Like 90% of the SUVs on the road do not have mud guards meaning I have to have a big distance between my car and the SUV unless I want rocks flying into my windshield.
B.S.

Your a fvcking idiot if you dont realize larger tires mean rocks get kicked up higher, I should know, ive had 2 explorers crack my windshield and I was driving well behind them, I now drive extra farther back behind SUVs.

2) Block viewing distance, have to drive way far behind in order to get a good viewing distance.
B.S. They aren't that big. WTF are you driving, a Mini?

Wtf are you a idiot? I can be a car length behind a SUV at a stop and cannot see the stoplight. I have to drive way far behind because if a car in front of the SUV suddenly brakes I will not know because I cant see in front of the SUV, therefore I have to drive much farther behind the SUV

3) They use more gas, creating more demand for gas, more demand means higher prices, so I have to pay more in gas thanks to SUVs driving up the demand.
Again, B.S. Until the last year or so, gas was basically the same price it has been for years. SUV's have been popular for over 10 years. Why wasn't gas 2+dollars a gallon 10 years ago? SUV's have absolutely nothing to do with the current high gas prices

You prove your idiocy over and over again

4) When I pull out of a parking spot and I have a SUV parked next to me I cant see anything and have to pull out super slow.
As opposed to what? Pulling out super fast? Dumb.

I cant see anything when I pull of a parking spot next to a SUV. When I am parked by cars at least I can see oncoming traffic and can safely pull out slow. When I pull my car out of a spot next to a SUV I have to reverse like 1 inch a second because I am at the mercy of all vehicles because I cannot see them thanks to SUVs blocking the distance.

5) Gigantic and dangerous to cars in collision.

Yes, the big ones are. Trouble is, the vast majority of SUV's aren't any bigger than minivans. Why aren't they considered just as dangerous to other cars?

I never said minivans werent dangerous to other cars, but at least you dont see 23049720935234 minivans on the road.

1. Very rare to have rocks from an SUV hit your windshield. Maybe you're just unlucky. There are far more pickups on the road than SUV's, and they are the exact same thing. Why aren't you bitching about them?
2. The distance you have to drive behind an SUV to see is being overstated. If you are driving like you are SUPPOSED to, you should be 2-3 seconds behind the car in front of you, which, unless you are going very slow, should be PLENTY of room to see what you need to see. If you choose to drive closer, then screw you, you don't deserve to bitch about it when you are the one tail gating. And what difference does it make if you are BEHIND someone and can't see the stoplight? Where the FVCK are you going until they move anyway? Ever been behind a semi truck at a light? Just dumb.
3. The gas issue and prices. You didn't give a response, just called names. That's because you are wrong, know it, and hate it. Again, if SUV's are responsible for the higher prices (and they are not), then why wasn't gas over 2.00 a gallon ten years ago? Five years ago? Can't be because of the hurricanes can it?
4. So pull out of the spot slower. And quit crying.
5. You see plenty of minivans on the road, too. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions. The majority of SUV's aren't any bigger than minivans. Top 3 selling SUV's are Explorer, Blazer, and Cherokee....all of which aren't any bigger or dangerous to you than Mom's Caravan.
Only the large SUV, like Tahoe and Expedition have bumpers that are significantly higher than a minvan. So yes, they are technically more dangerous...but again, there are more pickups on the road than all of these put together....where is the outrage over that?

 

[C'DaleRider]

Originally posted by: Ready
I don't mind people who drive SUVs because they need it for family or work, but the majority of the people out there seem to drive one just for the image of driving one. They don't seem to realize that

1.) SUV burns alot of Gas. There is no denying that oil has something to do with what going on in the middle east so why flaunt a vechicle that is design to burn alot of processed oil.

2.) Global warming. People seem to think they look cool driving a vehicle that dumps for pollution into the air than other vehicles.

3.) Larger vehicles tend to fling alot of debris into the windshield of the car behind them.

4.) At night their headlights are freaking annoying when coming from behind you.

5.) Alot of SUV drivers tend to drift all over the road thinking they're invincible.

6.) They do block the view of the driver behind them. Usually I like to keep an eye on at least 2 cars in front of me so I can know well in advance when I need to slow down or brake. With a SUV in front of me, I can't see past the SUV.

Honestly, minivans, outside the current Hondas, pollute as badly as SUVs. You can thank Chrysler for that.....when Chrysler introduced the first minivan in the 80's, they petitioned Congress and the President at the time to classify the minivan as a truck, not a car. The Pres and Congress approved of this and got the DOT to classify minivans as trucks for safety/pollution standards.....making the pollution standards minivans are subjected to as lax as SUVs....as are their safety standards. So, don't go off the deep end blaming SUVs for global warming, the typical minivan is just as guilty.

While it may be true larger vehicles fling more debris up, it's tire size that is the more damning culprit. Our SUV, a Blazer which is a smaller one than most of the SUV "hatred" seems to be pointed at, has 15" tires. How many cars have 15" tires? More than a few. How many cars have these huge oversized 20" tires on them these days? More and more these days. A set of 280/35x20" tires, I'd wager, would fling as much crap up off the road as my puny 15" tires....and the tires on my vehicle are only 235's.......not huge by any stretch of the imagination.

As for blocking the view.....sit behind a minivan in a car........bet your view is just as bad if not worse. Dark tinted windows, nice wide body on the minivans these days=poor visibility for the driver behind.

As for headlights, if they're PROPERLY aimed, they give no more glare than a car....but does anyone actually have their headlights checked for proper aiming? Have you? We did, and it has made a difference.

We know we're not invincible, but then again, we both are over 50 years old and have respect for our vehicle, those around us, and do drive somewhat semsibly.......I never speed in town, only on the interstate where the roads were built for higher speeds. We both signal our intentions to move/change lanes, turn, etc.

As for being too close behind an SUV and being caught too close when braking......BACK OFF a bit. The standard is one car-length per every 10mph.....or use the 2 sec. rule. Count 2 seconds from when the vehicle passes a point until you pass the same point. If you pass that point before you count off two seconds, you're following too closely. But, I know you never are just a car-length behind any vehicle doing 30mph.......are you? If you are, it wouldn't matter what vehicle you're following, you're just too damned close.


And we don't flaunt a damned thing by owning our Blazer. We average right at 20mpg.....nothing outstanding as compared to a Civic, but then again, a Civic cannot tow our boat, or trailers, or three dogs in their individual crates, etc. We choose to drive a Blazer........and over the years, I've owned cars and trucks ranging from Toytoa Corollas, VW Bugs, VW Golfs, and a wide assortment of imported and domestic vehicles......some got great mileage, some not so great. My old Ford LTD wtation wagon was terrible for both gas and size....but it hauled a ton of crap. My 1969 Olds 442 was fast.....would pass just about anything except a gas station. My last minivan, a 1996 GMC Safari, sucked gas like no tomorrow.....best at 16mpg. And, yes, without the seats it held a ton of stuff, but was not exactly fuel efficient. My 1992 Plymouth Voyager we owned wasn't any better.

Granted, the new crop of small minivans do get much better mileage, but so do the new crop of smaller SUVs.....as well as better emissions. Go to the Chevy dealer and look at the emissions chart for the Chevy Equinox.....think you'd be surprised that its emissions are actually better than a lot of cars on the road today.

So, lump all SUVs and their drivers together into one homogenous lump and I'll continue to do the same with the under-30 driving crowd.....the crowd of idiot drivers who have yet to discover the use of a turn signal, the beauty of not sniffing my bumper at speed, who insist on trying to beat every yellow light, who just cannot keep that damned cell phone out of their ear, who cannot seem to drive down the street without having to share their bass with everyone within a mile, who think driving is a some sort of pasttime and not someting to pay full attention to, and who seem to have no concept of common courtesy.

 

[Ornery]

1. :beer: For Jeff! :thumbsup:

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