Why are Republicans opposed to slashing medicare spending?

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Anarchist420

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Ryancare doesn't cut jack dempsey shit worth of federal expenditures and relies on inflation to very gradually and very slightly bring the cost down. It could wind up costing more than non-privatization, if Seniors complain and want the 75% taxpayer coverage increased beyond that. I'm sure that a not too far in the future Congress would be willing to increase that 75% figure to 85% or more.

2 superior and very moderate alternatives would be

1. reducing payouts for things covered by part D (by abolishing patents for prescription drugs, pre-approving imported drugs, in addition to paying for a lower portion of things covered by part D) That could save at least $25B/year.
2. means testing, especially for people like my parents who will be able to pay on their own, at least until 10 years after my dad retires. What they should do is something like reduce the amout you can take out of medicare based upon how much you have when you retire. They could reduce how much my dad could take out by 40%, and my parents could still live comfortably. They could even reduce how much some people are allowed to take out by 100%. That would save at least $100B/year.

Why are the Democrats so against Ryancare when it doesn't decrease Federal expenditures? Why don't the Democrats just support Ryancare, since it serves their interests?

What pisses me off is that the Democrats are just as intellectually dishonest as the Republicans are--the Democrats say they want to grant special priveleges to poor people yet they support the wealthy being allowed to take more from social security and just as much from medicare as poor people do. Don't get me wrong--I don't think priveleges should be granted to anyone. However, the democrats should be honest and either cut welfare for people who don't need it or at least come out and say that they represent the wealthy, if they have to continue giving handouts to people who don't need them at the expense of future generations.

We're on a one way ride to Hell on Earth.
 

EagleKeeper

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Try to do some research on answering your questions. You might be surprised on what can be learned instead of regurgitating.
 

Zebo

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No patents? Read the Constitution not to mention what Hay sez.

No what needs to happen is caps until such point it starts to disincentive invention. We give them monopoly power but we can damn well regulate it as well.


Means testing is okay but should be a very high cap. Medicare part D is a joke and so are $5000 wheel chairs. Govt should drive a hard bargain if we want to keep up this quasi public/private HC system.
 

ShawnD1

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Believe it or not, politics is driven by "fuck you, I got mine" rather than ideology.

1). all republicans are old people
2). medicare helps old people

connect the dots.
 

DaveSimmons

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Women are in charge of most home health care, so the first step should be to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment.

Once that happens it will be much easier to reduce coverage without suffering (or suffraging?) retaliation at the polls.

Also, senior voters include more women than men, so removing them from the rolls makes slashing coverage much more survivable for politicians.
 

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It's all about votes. No one who wants to be reelected will ask or shall I say demand such cuts to any program like Medicare, Medicaid or any nanny program like that because a lot of constituents on both sides of the isle either use or are about to use such programs.
 

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It's all about votes. No one who wants to be reelected will ask or shall I say demand such cuts to any program like Medicare, Medicaid or any nanny program like that because a lot of constituents on both sides of the isle either use or are about to use such programs.
Then why not just remind them about their kids and grandkids? If they really care that little about their kids and grandkids then they're some shitty people.
 

Kirby

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Women are in charge of most home health care, so the first step should be to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment.

Once that happens it will be much easier to reduce coverage without suffering (or suffraging?) retaliation at the polls.

Also, senior voters include more women than men, so removing them from the rolls makes slashing coverage much more survivable for politicians.

Abolish the 13th Amendment, and then we can eliminate Medicaid too. It'll be just like old times!
 
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