Why are people wiating for the New PC&C psu's?

[shinotenshi]

Why are people waiting for the new PC&C power supplies. dear lord who needs 700 and 850 watts(these are pc&c, so thats 750 and 850 watts of continous power at 50 degrees Celcius. This has to be overkill even for a dual opteron, dual 6800 ultra system.

 

[Sqube]

Technophiles... there's no stopping them, really.

Why do you need a USB coffee warmer? 😕

 

[biostud]

People aren't waiting, a very few who need to show off their e-Wang are waiting.

 

[wchou]

im not waiting, 250, 300watts is more then enough for me!@

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: shinotenshi
Why are people waiting for the new PC&C power supplies. dear lord who needs 700 and 850 watts(these are pc&c, so thats 750 and 850 watts of continous power at 50 degrees Celcius. This has to be overkill even for a dual opteron, dual 6800 ultra system.

Some of us burn up that much power

<- 10 HDs, 2 Xeons, Radeon 9700 Pro

CPUs and video cards don't get you nearly as badly as HDs and fans do.

 

[T9D]

I'm happy with my 400 watter.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: tk109
I'm happy with my 400 watter.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: shinotenshi
Why are people waiting for the new PC&amp;C power supplies. dear lord who needs 700 and 850 watts(these are pc&amp;c, so thats 750 and 850 watts of continous power at 50 degrees Celcius. This has to be overkill even for a dual opteron, dual 6800 ultra system.

Some of us burn up that much power

<- 10 HDs, 2 Xeons, Radeon 9700 Pro

CPUs and video cards don't get you nearly as badly as HDs and fans do.

10 HDs@~20W each + 2 Xeons@~100W each + 1 9700Pro@~60W != 700-850W of total system usage. You'd actually be a viable candidate for a 500-600W PSU, though.

Fans pull 2-5W each. Unless you've got dozens of them, or multiple Deltas in there, the draw from them is usually negligible.

 

[JBT]

With SLI comming out there will be a demand how large that is who knows. I'm sure that they will cost an arm and a leg too. video cards keep needing more and more power and now some people will have two of them in thier systems? yikes. Many enthusiest do not want to be held back by PSU's so they will get the biggest and the best out there. I'm sure the extreme OCers will be dying for these too.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: shinotenshi
Why are people waiting for the new PC&amp;C power supplies. dear lord who needs 700 and 850 watts(these are pc&amp;c, so thats 750 and 850 watts of continous power at 50 degrees Celcius. This has to be overkill even for a dual opteron, dual 6800 ultra system.

Some of us burn up that much power

<- 10 HDs, 2 Xeons, Radeon 9700 Pro

CPUs and video cards don't get you nearly as badly as HDs and fans do.

10 HDs@~20W each + 2 Xeons@~100W each + 1 9700Pro@~60W != 700-850W of total system usage. You'd actually be a viable candidate for a 500-600W PSU, though.

Fans pull 2-5W each. Unless you've got dozens of them, or multiple Deltas in there, the draw from them is usually negligible.

20W for a HD is probably a tad on the high side too, more like ~10W depending on the drive type.

 

[vtqanh]

A quality PSU will be better than one with high wattage.
I'm running a DELL 400SC with a 250W PSU:
Pentium 2.8HT, 1GB of memory, 2xHDs, 2x optical drives, a Geforce 5700 Ultra (one that requires additional power connector)

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: vtqanh
A quality PSU will be better than one with high wattage.
I'm running a DELL 400SC with a 250W PSU:
Pentium 2.8HT, 1GB of memory, 2xHDs, 2x optical drives, a Geforce 5700 Ultra (one that requires additional power connector)

PC&amp;C are about as high quality as you can get....

 

[walkure]

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: vtqanh
A quality PSU will be better than one with high wattage.
I'm running a DELL 400SC with a 250W PSU:
Pentium 2.8HT, 1GB of memory, 2xHDs, 2x optical drives, a Geforce 5700 Ultra (one that requires additional power connector)

PC&amp;C are about as high quality as you can get....

I read a thread that mentioned that PC P&amp;C doesn't even manufacture their own equipment. I believe that Seasonic PSU's are often used and/or modified for PC P&amp;C. Anyway, Seasonic isn't often mentioned in the same sentence as Antec, Enermax, etc, but perhaps people should shop around for them. I saw a couple that looked very solid and relatively cheap.

 

[Chaotic42]

Maybe they want to be ready for the future?

I bought a PCP&amp;C 510W so that I could add whatever I wanted whenever I wanted. Plus my system got burned (literally) with an Antec 550 in it.

 

[ItalianIc3]

Right now i have BTX (Balanced Technology Extended), which is so the high power parts(cpu, gfx) are aligned to get better cooling etc.. My specs are: 3.4ghz p4 ht 800mhz fsb, 1gb pc3200 ram, a Radeon X700 Pro 256mb PCI-e, and 1 WD 250gb sata hd(Intel D915g mobo). I have a 300w btx psu now, which seems a little low. Should I keep it? Since nothing unusual happened like randomly shutting off or anything.. its running normally.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: walkure

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: vtqanh
A quality PSU will be better than one with high wattage.
I'm running a DELL 400SC with a 250W PSU:
Pentium 2.8HT, 1GB of memory, 2xHDs, 2x optical drives, a Geforce 5700 Ultra (one that requires additional power connector)

PC&amp;C are about as high quality as you can get....

I read a thread that mentioned that PC P&amp;C doesn't even manufacture their own equipment. I believe that Seasonic PSU's are often used and/or modified for PC P&amp;C. Anyway, Seasonic isn't often mentioned in the same sentence as Antec, Enermax, etc, but perhaps people should shop around for them. I saw a couple that looked very solid and relatively cheap.

I do actually own a SeaSonic 460watt super silencer and it is inaudible and puts out plenty of power so yeah I know they are very good. I don't know if they make PC P &amp; C's PSU's but I could understand if they did.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: shinotenshi
Why are people waiting for the new PC&amp;C power supplies. dear lord who needs 700 and 850 watts(these are pc&amp;c, so thats 750 and 850 watts of continous power at 50 degrees Celcius. This has to be overkill even for a dual opteron, dual 6800 ultra system.

Some of us burn up that much power

<- 10 HDs, 2 Xeons, Radeon 9700 Pro

CPUs and video cards don't get you nearly as badly as HDs and fans do.

10 HDs@~20W each + 2 Xeons@~100W each + 1 9700Pro@~60W != 700-850W of total system usage. You'd actually be a viable candidate for a 500-600W PSU, though.

Fans pull 2-5W each. Unless you've got dozens of them, or multiple Deltas in there, the draw from them is usually negligible.

20W for a HD is probably a tad on the high side too, more like ~10W depending on the drive type.

I don't know what you guys are smoking, but the fans on my Xeons are rated at 1.25A @ 12V when running at full speed. 1.25*12 = 15W. Per fan.

Because I'm using removable HD trays, I've got a sum total of ~20 fans in my system (12 alone in the HD trays). Your calculations also didn't take into account any other periphals in the system.

I'm not saying everyone needs a 750W PSU. What I'm saying is that the peope with dual processor systems that have equally potent peripherals are a good candidate for it. Right now, I'm using two PSUs so switching over to one is not something I'm all that concerned about. If I didn't have this spare SCSI HDD tower though, I might consider one of these 'monster' PSUs because I know firsthand that my Antec True480 can't handle all my stuff anymore.

EDIT: I know that the fans don't always pull that 1.25A. But, they do when they're at full load. Full load would be most likely when the system is drawing the most power in general - lots of HD access, CPUs maxxed out, etc. The 'It never rains, it pours' principle. Even if it only comes in short bursts, you have to plan for your maximum power consumption, not your average.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: ItalianIc3
Right now i have BTX (Balanced Technology Extended), which is so the high power parts(cpu, gfx) are aligned to get better cooling etc.. My specs are: 3.4ghz p4 ht 800mhz fsb, 1gb pc3200 ram, a Radeon X700 Pro 256mb PCI-e, and 1 WD 250gb sata hd(Intel D915g mobo). I have a 300w btx psu now, which seems a little low. Should I keep it? Since nothing unusual happened like randomly shutting off or anything.. its running normally.

You said it yourself, it's working fine, the PSU you have is likely of good quality, hence no problems.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: walkure

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: vtqanh
A quality PSU will be better than one with high wattage.
I'm running a DELL 400SC with a 250W PSU:
Pentium 2.8HT, 1GB of memory, 2xHDs, 2x optical drives, a Geforce 5700 Ultra (one that requires additional power connector)

PC&amp;C are about as high quality as you can get....

I read a thread that mentioned that PC P&amp;C doesn't even manufacture their own equipment. I believe that Seasonic PSU's are often used and/or modified for PC P&amp;C. Anyway, Seasonic isn't often mentioned in the same sentence as Antec, Enermax, etc, but perhaps people should shop around for them. I saw a couple that looked very solid and relatively cheap.

I do actually own a SeaSonic 460watt super silencer and it is inaudible and puts out plenty of power so yeah I know they are very good. I don't know if they make PC P &amp; C's PSU's but I could understand if they did.

PC Power &amp; Cooling uses Seasonics for its Silencer line, probably with a different fan.

They did and may still use Zippy/Emacs PSUs/parts for their top line Turbos, again with a little modding and a fan swap.

 

[Pariah]

I'm not saying everyone needs a 750W PSU. What I'm saying is that the peope with dual processor systems that have equally potent peripherals are a good candidate for it. Right now, I'm using two PSUs so switching over to one is not something I'm all that concerned about.

And I'm saying that no one needs a 750W PSU for a home system. I don't care what they have in it.

IWill sells a SFF dual Opteron barebones that ships with a 300W PSU. The list of tested compatible peripherals includes dual Opteron 250's, a 6800GT, and 2GB of RAM with room for 1 optical drive, 2 hard drives and a floppy drive. So what they hell are you going to put in a system like that that would required an additional 450W's?

I've run an SMP system for over 3 years with a 430W Antec PSU, and have had as many as 8 HD's running in the system at once without problems. It's complete BS to think anyone needs one of these 600W+ PSU's. Not unless you have a USB powered air conditioner or clothes dryer connected to your PC.