why are people today weaker than they used to be?

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: nonameo

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I'll quote my dad "when I was your age I had to walk 5 miles in the snow, kill a bear so I could have the fur for my feet, didn't have shoes. Had to melt the ice by rubbing the fur of two squirrels together, that I had to catch with my teeth because my hands were so numb. Then I had to shave the bark off a tree to use it for wiping my butt because we didn't have that fancy toilet paper. And I had to do all this just to get to the outhouse !"

I would have just dug a hole in the ground and crapped in that. Or just crap on the ground. It'll rinse away when it rains.

Also, why would I use bark when leaves are easier to get and much, much softer? Bark has just as much of a chance of damaging your poo hole as a leaf does . Not to mention that it SHOULD be pretty easy to pick out the safe ones... you know... not poison ivy? I mean heck, they aren't even shaped right for the job anyways. What you really want are pear tree leaves or something like that. Maybe fig leaves? they're kinda fuzzy. It'd do a good job of catching the poo all in one swoop. Some of the other leaves are too "slick" to really pick any of it up off of your butt.

:laugh: ....... Nah, you need Magnolia Tree leaves! Not from experience, just the size of the Leaf!

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1
Today's generation knows a lot more then we ever did and uses that knowledge to their advantage. They are not weaker, they are smarter.

They sure don't seem smarter to me. They seem pretty damn stupid. They're end users that use the things that the previous generation invented.

Yes, because every WWII vet knew how to build a tank. Every generation uses things from the previous generation. And likewise, every generation thinks their superior to their contemporaries. It's a matter of perspective.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Number1
Today's generation knows a lot more then we ever did and uses that knowledge to their advantage. They are not weaker, they are smarter.

They sure don't seem smarter to me. They seem pretty damn stupid. They're end users that use the things that the previous generation invented.

Yes, because every WWII vet knew how to build a tank. Every generation uses things from the previous generation. And likewise, every generation thinks their superior to their contemporaries. It's a matter of perspective.

A matter of perspective yes.

But the vast majority of young people (<25) today are passive couch potatoes. "I'm gonna sick my dad on you" has been replaced with "I deserve to be constantly entertained without actually doing anything." I see it in the professional world as well as personal - there is a shift towards entitlement. "You can't hurt me, I'm special!"

Pussification marches on.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: spidey07
[But the vast majority of young people (<25) today are passive couch potatoes. "I'm gonna sick my dad on you" has been replaced with "I deserve to be constantly entertained without actually doing anything." I see it in the professional world as well as personal - there is a shift towards entitlement. "You can't hurt me, I'm special!"

Pussification marches on.

Reminded me of my neice.
She is 15, comes home from school , sits on the couch all day/night watching tv.
Ask her to do something ?
"I'm tired"
"I don't want to"

yell at her for not cleaning up behind herself and she will whine "soooo., I don't have to"


In the past had I told my dad "later" or "when I get time" I would have quickly been looking at the floor. Not condoning physical harm on a child, but to some extents it worked.

 

[alkemyst]

I blame entitlement and fear issues.

I consider myself tough and was born in 1971.

Most people though overcredit the past.

People have been the same since day 1 no matter what country creed or religion/etc.

and People want to think they have been different since day 1 because of that.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence

Originally posted by: Vic
Lack of necessity.

They're weak because they've never had to be strong.

correct :thumbsup:

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[Pepsi90919]

because everyone is 'equal' now

 

[imported_Tick]

It's part of the natural evolution towards Cyborg's. We're in the "protect ourselves" and the "laziness" and the "everyone is special" stages. We're also in nano-technology stage. Soon, we'll all be Cyborg's, and all the thing you mention will either go towards their extreme or die out. No one will work, we'll have machines for that. No one will ever get hurt, because we'll have armor on all the time. No one will interact face to face, we'll access the neural-internet. Etc...

/bullshit.

 

[alkemyst]

I thought we were evolving toward ninjas

 

[destrekor]

it all started with the introduction of obligatory Politically Correctness. Since then, society has softened.

oh, and as has been stated already in this thread: the removal of parental beatings.
my dad is a great guy because of the interaction he had with his dad. My grandpa was a WWII vet, was a GREAT grandfather, but my dad told me of fearing the belt/hand/learning to never backtalk for other random fears. But he didn't fear his dad, just what would happen if he got out of line. My dad loved his father. But now, fathers who even lay a hand on their son are quickly labeled as abusive and will likely have their son hating them because society has raised them that way.

Same reason I think drill sergeants should still be complete pricks to all new basic recruits instead of being much softer on everyone today in comparison to yesteryears, for fear of lawsuits from mommies complaining that their son has had emotional stress. It's the military, only being prepared for further stress. Can't handle it, then GTFO. I'd rather have tough drill sergeants forcing out the weak recruits than having to rely on easily stressed recruits on the battlefield, even if that meant less recruits. Fewer and stronger are better than people locking up out there.

teh weakness of this generation and the one prior is disgusting.

 

[Slew Foot]

Because you cant smack your kids now.

 

[dighn]

imho it's just evolution of society. Everything is becoming increasingly more sophisticated and "friendlier". We concern ourselves more and more with a different set of things than before, so older values are becoming less and less relevant.

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: Chryso
We no longer have survival of the fittest. Now everybody survives and the weak breed more weak.

true true, and it's sad too, if you've seen "Idiocracy" the first 10 minutes / intro is a great explanation

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: dighn
imho it's just evolution of society. Everything is becoming increasingly more sophisticated and "friendlier". We concern ourselves more and more with a different set of things than before, so older values are becoming less and less relevant.

i definitely wouldn't call it evolution. right now we seem to be at a standstill or a reversal in progress. but i think society will stay as it is or worsen until some major things can happen.
then again, if we can ever reach the 'perfect society', it'll be really weak because at that point conflict is supposed to be a thing of the past. so we'll see how we shape up over the course of the next couple of decades. definitely no where near perfect. conflict will remain but in general I think the trend of weakening will continue.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: dighn
imho it's just evolution of society. Everything is becoming increasingly more sophisticated and "friendlier". We concern ourselves more and more with a different set of things than before, so older values are becoming less and less relevant.

i definitely wouldn't call it evolution. right now we seem to be at a standstill or a reversal in progress. but i think society will stay as it is or worsen until some major things can happen.
then again, if we can ever reach the 'perfect society', it'll be really weak because at that point conflict is supposed to be a thing of the past. so we'll see how we shape up over the course of the next couple of decades. definitely no where near perfect. conflict will remain but in general I think the trend of weakening will continue.

Perhaps I should have said it was a side effect of social evolution. Things are definitely easier today and people lack the environment to toughen them up. But then again, is this really so bad? Why does it matter that people today can't wrestle a bear to death with their bear hands, or have the pain threshold of a block of concrete? Most of us don't experience significant conflict anyway. If hypothetically we are exposed to a conflict, then people will tough up and evolution will take its course. But the way we are now, we don't have to be optimized for conflicts. Most of us live in an environment of growth and development where such traits are not overly beneficial. We do have more of the associated pettiness, but they are mostly harmless and certainly an improvement over "tough" misbehaviors.