why are "nitrates" bad for you?

[IceBergSLiM]

Why?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Why?

3rd or 4th google response.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

pretty inconclusive from that link :shrugs:

its in wine though and alot of processed meats.....i like both.

 

[StageLeft]

My wife said I was having too many after I started getting headaches most days, she thinks from some frozen pizza (nitrates in meat) I was having. perhaps, perhaps not. In any case, I did cut it back and the headaches went away, although they could have been caused by something else.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
My wife said I was having too many after I started getting headaches most days, she thinks from some frozen pizza (nitrates in meat) I was having. perhaps, perhaps not. In any case, I did cut it back and the headaches went away, although they could have been caused by something else.

It's amazing how food can affect you. A few months ago I FINALLY discovered the source of my headaches - High Fructose Corn Syrup. Corn? Fine. Corn Syrup? Fine. HFCS? Instant headache. Nearly every day, I would get this acute headache on the right side of the top of my skull, which would only get worse with physical movement. I cut it out completely - it was in my bread, my ketchup, all sorts of stuff I'd never expect to find it. NO MOAR HEADACHES!! 😀

 

[Kipper]

Nitrosamines (the compounds in question) are also found as a result of ingesting roasted meats - where the meat is directly exposed to the flame (think VERY high-temperature). This isn't the charred bits which we usually pick off (although those are carcinogens of a different sort), they are completely different compounds formed within the body. They are believed to be linked to certain forms of cancer (mostly GI). Research is inconclusive, though.

Either way, in my opinion, as a population our diets are skewed toward excessive meat consumption, which can have implications of its own.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Like it says in the article, the nitrites react with the acid in your stomach and then amines from protein or whatever to form nitrosamines, which are wickedly carcinogenic.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Like it says in the article, the nitrites react with the acid in your stomach and then amines from protein or whatever to form nitrosamines, which are wickedly carcinogenic.

in lab rats

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Like it says in the article, the nitrites react with the acid in your stomach and then amines from protein or whatever to form nitrosamines, which are wickedly carcinogenic.

in lab rats

Uh, in people too. You don't realize it, but rats have a lot of the cell machinery and enzymes as us. Carinogens often cause the same effects in humans. That is a conclusive statement and if you want to turn a blind eye, then enjoy the GI cancer, friend.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Like it says in the article, the nitrites react with the acid in your stomach and then amines from protein or whatever to form nitrosamines, which are wickedly carcinogenic.

in lab rats

Uh, in people too. You don't realize it, but rats have a lot of the cell machinery and enzymes as us. Carinogens often cause the same effects in humans. That is a conclusive statement and if you want to turn a blind eye, then enjoy the GI cancer, friend.

everyone who drinks wine are eats deli sandwiches should have GI cancer then.

 

[NGC_604]

Just like not everyone who smokes has cancer, so obviously it is perfectly healthy for you.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Like it says in the article, the nitrites react with the acid in your stomach and then amines from protein or whatever to form nitrosamines, which are wickedly carcinogenic.

in lab rats

Uh, in people too. You don't realize it, but rats have a lot of the cell machinery and enzymes as us. Carinogens often cause the same effects in humans. That is a conclusive statement and if you want to turn a blind eye, then enjoy the GI cancer, friend.

everyone who drinks wine are eats deli sandwiches should have GI cancer then.

Not even close. If you put things in a natural context, they are less likely to have ill effects - like fructose in fruit as opposed to fructose in soft drinks.

However, if you think of processed things with high levels of nitrates in them (say things that are processed a fair amount and then smoked), their levels are so artificially high that it's not healthy to eat everyday.

Can you body process them? Sure, in moderation. I eat bacon every day. However, I try to get it from a butcher who does it on a much smaller and healthier level, and I don't eat all that much of it. I also take in high levels of antioxidants which help negate the effects of potential carcinogens.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Like it says in the article, the nitrites react with the acid in your stomach and then amines from protein or whatever to form nitrosamines, which are wickedly carcinogenic.

in lab rats

Uh, in people too. You don't realize it, but rats have a lot of the cell machinery and enzymes as us. Carinogens often cause the same effects in humans. That is a conclusive statement and if you want to turn a blind eye, then enjoy the GI cancer, friend.

everyone who drinks wine are eats deli sandwiches should have GI cancer then.

Not even close. If you put things in a natural context, they are less likely to have ill effects - like fructose in fruit as opposed to fructose in soft drinks.

However, if you think of processed things with high levels of nitrates in them (say things that are processed a fair amount and then smoked), their levels are so artificially high that it's not healthy to eat everyday.

Can you body process them? Sure, in moderation. I eat bacon every day. However, I try to get it from a butcher who does it on a much smaller and healthier level, and I don't eat all that much of it. I also take in high levels of antioxidants which help negate the effects of potential carcinogens.

I see what your saying but my point is most things are a carcinogen in mass quantities and the FDA hasn't put any numbers around what is considered a dangerous level to have in the human body so I think its premature to come out with GI cancer allegations.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
I see what your saying but my point is most things are a carcinogen in mass quantities and the FDA hasn't put any numbers around what is considered a dangerous level to have in the human body so I think its premature to come out with GI cancer allegations.

Yet another example of "waiting to see" instead of acting first, then begging forgiveness later. If a risk exists, doesn't it make sense that we'd try to minimize it "just in case?" There is little harm in exercising too much caution, particularly when the results can be fairly unpleasant...GI cancer can be particularly devastating and I would not wish it on my worst enemy. Colon cancer is a major killer in the United States.

Besides, there are plenty of other reasons to minimize consumption of deli meats.

 

[gramboh]

Guess I should probably cut back on the bacon, been having it for breakfast on the weekends the last month or so. Same for deli meats, although deli meats are disgusting anyway (the mass produced ones at the supermarket). I need to be less lazy and just mass cook organic chicken breasts I guess.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: gramboh
Guess I should probably cut back on the bacon, been having it for breakfast on the weekends the last month or so. Same for deli meats, although deli meats are disgusting anyway (the mass produced ones at the supermarket). I need to be less lazy and just mass cook organic chicken breasts I guess.

"On weekends" isn't anywhere near the amount that is required to really be dangerous. You probably cancel out any possible danger with the fruits and veggies you eat daily (if you are good about it).