why are most serial killers white?

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Amused

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Originally posted by: classy
Yea whatever. Amused I told you awhile ago I think nothing but scum of the earth. You post all kinds verbal attacks and just down right hateful stuff against blacks and minoritys but yet then you turn around and say you have businesses in black neighborhoods. Your nothing but a sleaze bucket. Its funny how blacks are trash but yet they feed your god forsaken family. But you know what in the end you'll get yours.

Classy, I have never posted a hateful thing about ANY minority. I have criticized cultures and popular trends, but I have NEVER posted a negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

I resent your libelous claims. Produce evidence that I have said hateful things about people based on the color of their skin or apologize for your libel.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: MrScott81
Originally posted by: classy
Yea whatever. Amused I told you awhile ago I think nothing but scum of the earth. You post all kinds verbal attacks and just down right hateful stuff against blacks and minoritys but yet then you turn around and say you have businesses in black neighborhoods. Your nothing but a sleaze bucket. Its funny how blacks are trash but yet they feed your god forsaken family. But you know what in the end you'll get yours.
You should stop posting in this thread, you've already got owned. Now you're just making yourself look worse.

Dont worry, that's classy's standard tactic. Get owned with facts on subject A, drop subject A and move onto subject B, get owned there as well due to those annoying "fact" thingies, and then move to calling everyone a racist, because they dont agree with him.
 

OMGoddess

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I'm asian, so whoever called me a racist agains black, mexicans, and asians...please dont' call me that. Half my friends are mexican.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Classy, I have never posted a hateful thing about ANY minority. I have criticized cultures and popular trends, but I have NEVER posted a negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

I resent your libelous claims. Produce evidence that I have said hateful things about people based on the color of their skin or apologize for your libel.

Amused: I have started to see getting called a racist by classy as the price of using facts in a debate with him. After he called me a racist, I challenged him to show how I was a racist in a thread a couple weeks ago (this was in the reparations thread, I think), and he never did. He never found anything to justify calling me a racist, and he never apologized. I wouldnt hold your breath waiting for that apology.

You just have to realize that classy doesnt play with a full deck, but what cards he does have all have "RACE" on them in big, bold letters...
 

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Because, when black people go on a rampage they just start busting it open right there and get caught.
So they're not considered serial killers. Same thing with most of the other ethinicities.

Um, read the thread.

What I'm trying to say is, because there are no black serial killers, or any other ethinicities, this makes white people the only serial killers.

Um READ THE THREAD.

The myth that all serial killers are white, or even that a higher % per capita are white has been BUSTED.

Question was Why are most serial killers white?

Nobody ask you for your spin on blacks or hispanics or any other minority. Nobody ask you for your per capita or percentage of population. Nobody ask you to quote "one" person on the subject. Nobody ask for your poor ole, pity me white boy syndrome. He asked a simple question. But instead as usual the same garbage feeding folks here like yourself turn into an attack on blacks or some other minority. If there are 100 serial killers and 80 of them are white, then 80% percent of all serial killers are white. If there are 100 doctors and 80 of them are white, then 80% of all doctors are white. If there are 100 NFL running backs and 80 of them are black then 80% of all NFL backs are black. Now, why was the question. Maybe if you weren't so damn prejudice in your heart maybe for just once you could have added an answer that didn't inlcude criticism of some other minority. It never ceases to amaze me how prejudice discussions are here. Freaking amazing. And you know I should take that back. Because its only the same ones. No matter what the discussion, if its a social issue, its always the minoritys are the lowlifes. And its a conspiracy against the white man and just bunch flat out bs. Half of you need to grow up. And if you don't like all the minoritys here and we are the blame for all "your" social problems and issues, then leave the country.

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I read in the news that just about ever serial killer is a white man between the ages of like 25 and 40ish. why are whites, percentage wise, more prone to kill randomly for no apparant reason?

given majority in US are white, but percentage wise.....................

(im white)

read his entire post and not just the title. :roll:
 

Amused

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Classy, I await your evidence that I have said hateful things about people based on the color of their skin or an apology for your libel.
 

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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Amused
Classy, I have never posted a hateful thing about ANY minority. I have criticized cultures and popular trends, but I have NEVER posted a negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

I resent your libelous claims. Produce evidence that I have said hateful things about people based on the color of their skin or apologize for your libel.

Amused: I have started to see getting called a racist by classy as the price of using facts in a debate with him. After he called me a racist, I challenged him to show how I was a racist in a thread a couple weeks ago (this was in the reparations thread, I think), and he never did. He never found anything to justify calling me a racist, and he never apologized. I wouldnt hold your breath waiting for that apology.

You just have to realize that classy doesnt play with a full deck, but what cards he does have all have "RACE" on them in big, bold letters...

Facts? What facts? The core of the group with you being another one never use facts. You use opinions, with opinions of other people as your support. Anyone can gladly pull up my name and search every post I have ever made in OT or PN and see I respond the ridiculous posts put forth on this board. You'll never find one thread that I ever started concerning racial issues. It wasn't until the election of 2000 that I even posted in OT. It wasn't until I started to read the absolute slanted racial bs written here that I even posted anything. And if you think I am lying pull up the threads. Its always the same clowns. Amused, JoeBad, AndrewR, Corn and couple of the handful of other punk @ss jerks who think they just say whatever they want about black people. Well I am black and I started to respond to this crap. And they run around whining calling me a racist. You would be shocked at the pms and emails I have gotten from other members who have told me they were glad to see someone standing up against some of the stuff that has been posted. Just a couple of months ago I got an email from member, an asian guy, who just does trading here and he wrote in the email he was reading some of the older threads and you know what he said. I seen the way you responded in many of the threads, and this is what he said, I quote " I didn't know that many predjudice peeps were in OT". Thats was from an asian guy. So because I don't need the fake @ss online friendships, I respond to the crap posted here. If you quote all the negative stuff about blacks then damn it I got every right to talk about the other side of the issue as well. I have made some miss judgements about some people too. There are certain guys when they post stuff I know they are posting not to be cross burning but just talking about issues. Guys like Red, Glenn, BoberFett, they come off with the right attitude and I respect guys like that. Anandtech has been a great resource and great great board over the years. And its a f'in shame that all a black person can look forward too reading about them as a people group is just bunch of constant negative stuff. So as far as I am concerned Mookow you can kiss my @ss.

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And one more thing if I get a vacation or even a permement boot because I take a stand, I would rather never be allowed to post here again then to just not say anything about the constant trashing of black folks and other minority groups. Some of you guys I think are just flat out no good at all.
 

Amused

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Gee Classy. More Libel with nothing to support your claims. I am awaiting your evidence showing proof of your claim that I have shown racial bias.
 

Amused

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Oh wow, Classy. Now you have the unmitigated gall to paint yourslef as some kind of martyr. The fact remains that you are accusing people of racial bias without producing one iota of evidence to support your claims. You confuse criticism of cultural trends and political disagreements as "racism" and then cannot back up your libelous accusations.

Again, produce the evidence of this racial bias or capitulate. My entire posting history is archived on this site. If I'm such a racist, the proof should be easy to find.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: classy
Facts? What facts? The core of the group with you being another one never use facts. You use opinions, with opinions of other people as your support. Anyone can gladly pull up my name and search every post I have ever made in OT or PN and see I respond the ridiculous posts put forth on this board. You'll never find one thread that I ever started concerning racial issues. It wasn't until the election of 2000 that I even posted in OT. It wasn't until I started to read the absolute slanted racial bs written here that I even posted anything. And if you think I am lying pull up the threads. Its always the same clowns. Amused, JoeBad, AndrewR, Corn and couple of the handful of other punk @ss jerks who think they just say whatever they want about black people. Well I am black and I started to respond to this crap. And they run around whining calling me a racist. You would be shocked at the pms and emails I have gotten from other members who have told me they were glad to see someone standing up against some of the stuff that has been posted. Just a couple of months ago I got an email from member, an asian guy, who just does trading here and he wrote in the email he was reading some of the older threads and you know what he said. I seen the way you responded in many of the threads, and this is what he said, I quote " I didn't know that many predjudice peeps were in OT". Thats was from an asian guy. So because I don't need the fake @ss online friendships, I respond to the crap posted here. If you quote all the negative stuff about blacks then damn it I got every right to talk about the other side of the issue as well. I have made some miss judgements about some people too. There are certain guys when they post stuff I know they are posting not to be cross burning but just talking about issues. Guys like Red, Glenn, BoberFett, they come off with the right attitude and I respect guys like that. Anandtech has been a great resource and great great board over the years. And its a f'in shame that all a black person can look forward too reading about them as a people group is just bunch of constant negative stuff. So as far as I am concerned Mookow you can kiss my @ss.

PS
And one more thing if I get a vacation or even a permement boot because I take a stand, I would rather never be allowed to post here again then to just not say anything about the constant trashing of black folks and other minority groups. Some of you guys I think are just flat out no good at all.

From the last large gun thread here on OT:

Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: classy
Guns are for losers, period.

A ten-year-old Gallia County boy is dead after his eleven-year-old brother accidentally shot him. Sheriff David Martin says James Montgomery was cleaning a shotgun at his Guyan Township home yesterday afternoon when it fired, striking his brother, William, in the head. Martin says the death was an accident and that no charges will be filed.

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June 7, 2004 - Authorities in Kershaw County say a 14-year-old boy died after a loaded gun his 12-year-old brother picked up fired.
Kershaw County Sheriff Steve McCaskill says the tragedy happened in a home on Kershaw Highway, "The family is in shock, just like the rest of the community. It's just a terrible tragedy."
The sheriff says the boys were home alone when the younger sibling got the gun from their parents' closet, "When he was handling it, it went off, striking the older brother in the back of the head."
The 12-year-old called 911, but the 14-year-old died.

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Police say it appears that a 9-year-old boy in far North Texas was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 12-year-old cousin.
Sherman Police Sargeant Charles Smith said late this afternoon that the 9-year-old was in ICU following surgery.
He says there are no charges pending at this time.
KTEN television station in Denison reports that a Sherman mother called police just before noon to say that her 9-year-old nephew had been shot.
One of the investigating officers says the two boys were handling the .22 caliber gun inside the home when it went off.



Unless your a law enforcement agent or hunt which you should only be allowed to own a shot gun there is no reason to own a gun. None. The numbers are just staggering. Guns for protection is a joke. The gun will be used to hurt a family member more than likely. The statistics are so overwhelming only an idiot can still try and make an arguement for gun possesion. You can't compensate for Adulthood or Manhood with a gun.

Classy, the thing that you fail to understand is that, just like you, guns are a tool. Nothing more. Making an argument by using three anecdotes is something that would get you laughed out of a grade school classroom. But I guess it is easier to "argue" that we should "Think of the children!!!", rather than use facts... seeing as the facts do not support your position. After you remove suicides, a gun is much more likely to be used to defend your home successfully than used against a family member, whether by another family member or an intruder. And if someone really wants to kill themselves, they will suceed. Take a look at Japan, virtually no personal gun ownership and a much higher suicide rate.

Just a couple facts to start with, from government sources (I'm not using anything from either the NRA nor HCI):
-In 1996, there were 21 accidental firearm deaths of children under age 15. That same year, 40 children 5 years old and younger drowned in buckets (maybe you should think of the children and ban buckets!). These statistics were released by the CDC in 1999.
-Boys who own legal firearms have a lower rate of delinquency than non-owners of the same age. That little fact is brought to you by the study "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse", released in August of 1995 by the US Dept of Justice.

You posted anecdotes (technically facts, if true). I posted statistics from rather impartial sources (as stated in that post, neither from pro-gun nor anti-gun sources). I also posted a few other things without quoting sources, such as "Japan (has) virtually no personal gun ownership and a much higher suicide rate". Both statements, "Japan has virtually no personal (private) gun ownership" and "Japan has a much higher rate of suicide (than the USA)" are facts, and if you really want, I can go find some links to post, however that's like asking me to find a link to support the contention "crack is bad for your health". In your mind, however, I guess those didnt qualify as facts, since "The core of the group with you being another one never use facts. You use opinions, with opinions of other people as your support."

Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: classy
But you know whats funny, whenever this subject comes up they forget to mention that a payment was put forth for slavery that was to be paid to all blacks, 40 acres and a mule. Now the "white" house then didn't pay. But the debt is still owed. So like any other debt the legal heirs are still owed the debt with interest. The question is not if they should pay but the question should be when. You know its odd. I went to the store to buy some bleach and I couldn't find any of any brand. Now I know where it all went :p

The "white" house didnt pay because the "white" house didnt approve of it. General Sherman made that proclaimation. Congress never approved of it, it was never passed into law, and it has only slightly higher legal standing than a campaign promise.

I would like to point out this part: "...but we did not undertake to give a fee-simple title; and all that was designed by these special field orders was to make temporary provisions for the freedmen and their families during the rest of the war, or until Congress should take action in the premises."

Take a look at Sherman's Special Field Order #15, and show me where it says that the US government will give all slaves/former slaves 40 acres and a mule. Otherwise, it would appear that this applies to you, not me: "Facts? What facts? The core of the group with you being another one never use facts. You use opinions, with opinions of other people as your support."

And like Amused, I'm still waiting for you to either prove that I'm a racist via my posts here on ATOT, or apologize for calling me one. I have a feeling, however, that you will do neither.
 

alkemyst

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i do not agree with this reply I once heard in an identical debate:

paraphased to show what was implied by the counterpoint of racial slurs:" Because white people can think enough / have intelligence to plan such crimes"

The real reason is because of their majority status more than likely. I am sure most serial killers in Japan are Japanese, and African in Africa.
 

OulOat

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When you watch the news, and hear that somebody got their head chopped off. Somebody drank the blood and use the toes to play pool with... chances are that was a white guy.

Now the old lady kicked down a flight of stairs for a welfare check... black guy... give me that four dollar check...

White guys in jail, what are you in for... oh yeah, embezzling funds. Black guy, what are you in for... Socks... that's right boy, I took me some 48 dollars worth of socksssss.... MY FEET WERE FEELING GOOOOOOD...
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Amused
Schadenfroh,

I believe this myth is busted. The % of black serial killers exceeds the % that black people are in the general population. A thread title change is in order.

The only thing that exceeds is your dumbass analogy. Out of every 10 serial killers there is a possibility that 2 of them may be black. But the other 8 are sure to be white. So most serial killers are white. Or maybe you didn't learn percentages in grade school. Nice try on your all too common, not so intelligent spin. :p

He's right though, blacks only make up 12% of our population yet account for 20+% of serial killers according to the study that guy did. Whites on the other hand account for about 78% of the population and account for about 80% of serial killers. So whites account for about as many as you'd expect relative to the white population in this country, and blacks account for way more than you'd expect relative to their population.

This is what Schadenfroh was referring to when he said "given majority in US are white, but percentage wise....................."

I don't care how you two try to spin this one. Most serial killers are white. Plain and simple.

Any time someone says "plain and simple" while constructing or defending a logical argument, I tend to dismiss them automatically. You should be better prepared to defend your statement or just please don't play at all. Once you reach the point of "plain and simple", you've already lost.
 

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Because, when black people go on a rampage they just start busting it open right there and get caught.
So they're not considered serial killers. Same thing with most of the other ethinicities.

Um, read the thread.

What I'm trying to say is, because there are no black serial killers, or any other ethinicities, this makes white people the only serial killers.

Um READ THE THREAD.

The myth that all serial killers are white, or even that a higher % per capita are white has been BUSTED.

Question was Why are most serial killers white?

Nobody ask you for your spin on blacks or hispanics or any other minority. Nobody ask you for your per capita or percentage of population. Nobody ask you to quote "one" person on the subject. Nobody ask for your poor ole, pity me white boy syndrome. He asked a simple question. But instead as usual the same garbage feeding folks here like yourself turn into an attack on blacks or some other minority. If there are 100 serial killers and 80 of them are white, then 80% percent of all serial killers are white. If there are 100 doctors and 80 of them are white, then 80% of all doctors are white. If there are 100 NFL running backs and 80 of them are black then 80% of all NFL backs are black. Now, why was the question. Maybe if you weren't so damn prejudice in your heart maybe for just once you could have added an answer that didn't inlcude criticism of some other minority. It never ceases to amaze me how prejudice discussions are here. Freaking amazing. And you know I should take that back. Because its only the same ones. No matter what the discussion, if its a social issue, its always the minoritys are the lowlifes. And its a conspiracy against the white man and just bunch flat out bs. Half of you need to grow up. And if you don't like all the minoritys here and we are the blame for all "your" social problems and issues, then leave the country.

That's some f'ed up sh!t right there. Talk about your victim mentality.
 

Amused

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Oh Classy...

I'm still waiting for your evidence of my racial bias or an apology for your blatant libelous cliams against me.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Oh Classy...

I'm still waiting for your evidence of my racial bias or an apology for your blatant libelous cliams against me.

amused you need a life
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: DorkBoy
Originally posted by: Amused
Oh Classy...

I'm still waiting for your evidence of my racial bias or an apology for your blatant libelous cliams against me.

amused you need a life

Um, no. I refuse to have such libelous insults go unanswered.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Amused
Um, no. I refuse to have such libelous insults go unanswered.

Personally, I am not holding my breath.

Neither am I. I will simply make sure this thread remains to haunt him.
 

sygyzy

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Though everyone is too PC to admit it, the reason is simply because (historically) whites are (generally) the only ones that commit crimes of insanity rather than passion/need.

When a black or hispanic steals it's because he is greedy, wants money, or food. If he rapes, it's because he is horny. And of course, whites commit these crimes too.

However, when is the last black unabomber or OK Federal Building bomber you have seen? When is the last Black Leatherface or Dalhmer? The hardcore white criminals are insane and do things that nobody could ever dream up. Major black criminals comit crimes that we can understand (ie drug trafficking, gangs).

Of course, that is changing recently as the terrorists and DC snipers both committed crazy crimesd. All the criminal profilers, as well as myself, were VERY surprised when it was revealed that the DC sniper was not white. That was incredible.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Though everyone is too PC to admit it, the reason is simply because (historically) whites are (generally) the only ones that commit crimes of insanity rather than passion/need.

When a black or hispanic steals it's because he is greedy, wants money, or food. If he rapes, it's because he is horny. And of course, whites commit these crimes too.

However, when is the last black unabomber or OK Federal Building bomber you have seen? When is the last Black Leatherface or Dalhmer? The hardcore white criminals are insane and do things that nobody could ever dream up. Major black criminals comit crimes that we can understand (ie drug trafficking, gangs).

Of course, that is changing recently as the terrorists and DC snipers both committed crazy crimesd. All the criminal profilers, as well as myself, were VERY surprised when it was revealed that the DC sniper was not white. That was incredible.

The problem with your logic was described in the news story I posted. Serial Killers tend to stay within their race. While blacks produce more than their fair share of serial killers, we hear about it less because, sadly, the mainstream news is less likely to report on crimes against poor blacks.

The real experts were suprised the DC snipers were black serial/spree killers that preyed on whites, NOT simply that they were black.

So again, you have fallen for a myth, i.e., there are no black serial killers... why? Because you never hear of them. The reality is quite different. Blacks make up roughly 20% of all serial killers.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Though everyone is too PC to admit it, the reason is simply because (historically) whites are (generally) the only ones that commit crimes of insanity rather than passion/need.

When a black or hispanic steals it's because he is greedy, wants money, or food. If he rapes, it's because he is horny. And of course, whites commit these crimes too.

However, when is the last black unabomber or OK Federal Building bomber you have seen? When is the last Black Leatherface or Dalhmer? The hardcore white criminals are insane and do things that nobody could ever dream up. Major black criminals comit crimes that we can understand (ie drug trafficking, gangs).

Of course, that is changing recently as the terrorists and DC snipers both committed crazy crimesd. All the criminal profilers, as well as myself, were VERY surprised when it was revealed that the DC sniper was not white. That was incredible.

The problem with your logic was described in the news story I posted. Serial Killers tend to stay within their race. While blacks produce more than their fair share of serial killers, we hear about it less because, sadly, the mainstream news is less likely to report on crimes against poor blacks.

The real experts were suprised the DC snipers were black serial/spree killers that preyed on whites, NOT simply that they were black.

So again, you have fallen for a myth, i.e., there are no black serial killers... why? Because you never hear of them. The reality is quite different. Blacks make up roughly 20% of all serial killers.


which as we know because Classy pointed out to us is less than 80% but WAIT, is there more to the story?

;)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Though everyone is too PC to admit it, the reason is simply because (historically) whites are (generally) the only ones that commit crimes of insanity rather than passion/need.

When a black or hispanic steals it's because he is greedy, wants money, or food. If he rapes, it's because he is horny. And of course, whites commit these crimes too.

However, when is the last black unabomber or OK Federal Building bomber you have seen? When is the last Black Leatherface or Dalhmer? The hardcore white criminals are insane and do things that nobody could ever dream up. Major black criminals comit crimes that we can understand (ie drug trafficking, gangs).

Of course, that is changing recently as the terrorists and DC snipers both committed crazy crimesd. All the criminal profilers, as well as myself, were VERY surprised when it was revealed that the DC sniper was not white. That was incredible.

The problem with your logic was described in the news story I posted. Serial Killers tend to stay within their race. While blacks produce more than their fair share of serial killers, we hear about it less because, sadly, the mainstream news is less likely to report on crimes against poor blacks.

The real experts were suprised the DC snipers were black serial/spree killers that preyed on whites, NOT simply that they were black.

So again, you have fallen for a myth, i.e., there are no black serial killers... why? Because you never hear of them. The reality is quite different. Blacks make up roughly 20% of all serial killers.


which as we know because Classy pointed out to us is less than 80% but WAIT, is there more to the story?

;)

You know, it's funny how Classy attacks me with claims of racism... Yet, he says nothing to the MANY folks in this thread who make very insulting (and ignorant) insinuations that blacks are too dumb/impulsive to be serial killers.
 

Amused

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Still waiting, Classy. Where is your outrage over those who implied that blacks are too dumb and/or impulsive to be serial killers? Where is your evidence of my supposed racial bias? Where is your apology for libel?