Odd, I've never found that. Although I do find non-computer people usually say boring, pointless things. The other programmers I deal with are a joy to work with because they just state the facts and I don't have to try to pick useful information out of tons of pointless small talk and meaningless niceties.
This is true. They're not arrogant, they're just straight forward and conversely intelligent. To a stupid person I can see that they would appear arrogant given that you have no common ground to make conversation he could possibly be interested in.
Fritzo
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I was going to post reasons but this statement pretty much sums it up.
The computer is the only device ever invented that the owner feels they do not need to take any responsibility for learning to operate. If you buy a car, old ladies don't expect the dealership to teach them how to drive. People don't call SONY asking them how to change channels on their TV. People buy more complicated things than a computer and hook it up themselves (garbage disposals, garage door openers, etc). But, since the image of a kid with Coke-bottle glasses typing in cryptic code at 100MPH is the image of a typical computer user that is burned into consumer's heads, they feel that is the only type of person that can use any type of computer equipment.
Geeks aren't known for good communication. That, and talking over someones head about computers is very easy to do, since so few know much about the inner workings of computers.
It gets frustrating explaining the simplest things over and over and over again.
"Awwwwwwww! Now my bookmarks are gone, too!"
"Web pages are loading kinda slow, do I need to do a defrag?"
"Is my computer running slow because of what you're doing on yours?"
FFS.
"Awwwwwwww! Now my bookmarks are gone, too!"
"Web pages are loading kinda slow, do I need to do a defrag?"
"Is my computer running slow because of what you're doing on yours?"
FFS.
Fritzo
Lifer
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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: rivan
Or, possibly worse, using Google, typing into the search field the web addresses of shift you already know, just so you end up with a link to click.
1. Open Browser (Google is homepage)
2. Search for "www.whatever.com"
3. Results for whatever.com show up
4. click link for whatever.com
I do that, it is far to easy to end up at a porn site if you mistype something.
Actually, this is the #1 way that older people end up with spyware infections on their computer. I bet OVER 50% of them get to web sites by typing them into Google instead of using Favorites or the address bar. They then go to the first hit, end up and a trojan site, and BAM- they're done.
Originally posted by: rivan
Or, possibly worse, using Google, typing into the search field the web addresses of shift you already know, just so you end up with a link to click.
1. Open Browser (Google is homepage)
2. Search for "www.whatever.com"
3. Results for whatever.com show up
4. click link for whatever.com
Guilty as charged. Although, all i do is CTRL+T, "goo" -> google -> "foo" done.
lol qft! why people like those anyways is beyond me!
Sometimes there is no way of saying something without sounding arrogant to the idiot.
Scenario:
Computer Illiterate: I can't log onto my computer
IT Person: The computer was shut down over the weekend, you need to turn it on
Computer Illiterate: I tried that, only the monitor light turns on or off when I repeatedly try
IT Person: (any other words used would be misconstrued as arrogant talk from here on in)
I have noticed this on some people.
Hell, I even work with some of them.
I tend to always compare myself to ones better then I so I tend to keep humble.
When I'm not working, I tend to be around folks who are computer illerate so computers don't really come up in the conversation.
Hell, I even work with some of them.
I tend to always compare myself to ones better then I so I tend to keep humble.
When I'm not working, I tend to be around folks who are computer illerate so computers don't really come up in the conversation.
I disagree. I can think of many instances that I've personally observed where some schmoe with a little bit of PERSONAL COMPUTING knowledge (let's be specific here, "technical" knowledge is too broad a term for someone who knows how to fit all 7 pieces of a PC together) thinks they're superior to ANYONE who doesn't possess the same knowledge and they speak in the condescending manner that reflects it. Seriously, what we (AT geeks) do as a hobby is NOT complicated but at the same time we've all had to go out of our way to familiarize ourselves with it. The only difference between "us" and "them" is that "they" pursued different interests. For all you know, the guy you're trying to sell some shit PC too in Bestbuy that YOU KNOW any intelligent person would realize is a ripoff is an astrophysicist who couldn't give two shits about consumer electronics. Is he a retard too just because he doesn't know a thing about Crysis, Unbutu, or pearl? No. PC nerds need to get over themselves.
Seriously. I got a call last night.
Her: The UPS on [bosses] computer was a making a god awful squeal.
Me: Ok, I'll look at it. Can you turn the computer off and unplug it?
Her: I already did, and I went and got another UPS from a computer downstairs.
Me: Which computer?
Her: Oh, the one in the room... Not the server though.
Me: Ok. Did you power down the computer before you took the UPS off? (I asked because she will not be able to log into the server to safely shut it down)
Her: Well I hit the power switch on the UPS first, then unplugged it.
Me: Which computer again?
Her: *describes the room*.
Me: *THATS THE SERVER YOU STUPID FUCK!* That was the server, you have two servers running down there right now.
Her: Oh, is that going to be a problem?
Me: I don't know yet, I'll have to see.
Her: Can you come by tomorrow and look at it?
Me: Yeah, I can do that for you.
Her: Can you also look at the printers and the internet, its not working anymore on any of the computers.
Me: The server is what allows those things to work, since its off you wont be able to access the internet or the printers.
Her: Oh, ok well I have to go. <click>
Can you see why we might seem a bit arrogant sometimes? People are stupid.
ultimatebob
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On the flip side, why are non computer people so dense? When I say "click on the File in the menu bar", it shouldn't take you 45 seconds to find it! The damn thing is right in front of you for pete's sake, and you've probably seen it a thousand times before.
Originally posted by: rivan
Or, possibly worse, using Google, typing into the search field the web addresses of shift you already know, just so you end up with a link to click.
1. Open Browser (Google is homepage)
2. Search for "www.whatever.com"
3. Results for whatever.com show up
4. click link for whatever.com
...I do that cause I don't want to mess up my address bar and overload it with crap and typo'd addresses I need to go to once.
I wouldn't consider someone who knows how to slip in a PCI card a 'computer person'. I suppose someone who doesn't even know how to do that would.
Shift + Del silly.Originally posted by: Imp
Originally posted by: rivan
Or, possibly worse, using Google, typing into the search field the web addresses of shift you already know, just so you end up with a link to click.
1. Open Browser (Google is homepage)
2. Search for "www.whatever.com"
3. Results for whatever.com show up
4. click link for whatever.com
...I do that cause I don't want to mess up my address bar and overload it with crap and typo'd addresses I need to go to once.
CKent
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I'm the opposite, though I might be in the minority. Way I figure it, the more people know I know about computers, the more they're gonna try bugging me for help with their PC. So I act naive about them. Of course, when you're asked what you do for a living, it's kinda tough
My computer programming professor is kind of the opposite. He's generally funny and light hearted in class but turns into Mean Mod on the class help message board.
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