Why are Europeans so offended by US patriotism?

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charrison

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Hahaha, I gues we are duelling. But all summed up with federal tax, state tax, social security tax it becomes 30% and the data is taken from my paycheck.

The Swedish healthcare system is kinda fictional because everyone gets the same govt care.
And that regardless if you have a job or not. Same goes for studies.
How big is the fraction of your salary you get when unemployed?

Enough to get by one, and little enough to encourage you find a job that pays more.

If I got 75% for unemployment I would be applying for jobs I could not get and enjoying myself for 300 days :D
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Hahaha, I gues we are duelling. But all summed up with federal tax, state tax, social security tax it becomes 30% and the data is taken from my paycheck.

The Swedish healthcare system is kinda fictional because everyone gets the same govt care.
And that regardless if you have a job or not. Same goes for studies.
How big is the fraction of your salary you get when unemployed?

Enough to get by one, and little enough to encourage you find a job that pays more.

If I got 75% for unemployment I would be applying for jobs I could not get and enjoying myself for 300 days :D

There are certain terms of course... you have to look for jobs that you can get, you have to take jobs that you do get (providing they match your education and/or experience in both cases)...

There are other terms too... you have to work for at least a year, and you only get it if you have been laid off, if you quit your job, you get nada...

The rules of the unemployment system makes it very hard to abuse it... but of course... nothings impossible...
 

Nefrodite

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"The superior European technlogy conquered the new world": big lie, because unless a machine gun was used there is no way that a 7,000 army could defeat over 200,000 of the best warriors in this part of the world. The weapons helped, but after the initial impact they caused the Aztecs got used to them.... and beat them, as witnessed in the tlatelolco battle that lead to 'the sad night"

the new world was conquered by the natives themselves, who aligned their forces to the strangers. Mexico wasn't a lonely island with 150 cannibals that could get defeated by the Europeans, the tribes had tens of thousands of warriors.....

lol:) its zerg vs space marines! or even worse zerg vs protoss!! :) but indians don't reproduce any faster then europeans.. so losing 200,000 to win a battle is no way to win:p if the indians suffered enourmous losses their society would deteriortate and crumble, the small european armed force could be easily replaced.
 

VFAA

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Here's a cookie

<hands Scipionix a cookie>

Now you want proof? I suggest your closest public library (get videos and books on European countries) and than if money has it, travel to Europe.
Don't believe in everything that CNN says.

It's funny how shows such as South Park and Simpsons [edit] sometimes [edit] show negative sides of Americans, ie ignorance and lifestyle. Yet we all enjoy the shows and have it in our minds, naaahhhh that's just a TV show. Just where did these TV shows get the ideas?
 

smp

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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: smp Yep, not to mention the fact that the European capacity for action instead of bitching is about as great as their capacity for lowering unemployment and reversing the 29 hour workweek. Here in 'socialist' Canada (at least in Onterrible) we have a 60 hour work week. So in your face America .. we are better than you :p
Yeah but that's like 60 hours Canadian which is only what 25 hours in real time? :D

Blaaahahahaah LOL, nice one.
 

smp

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Media is not proof. Anyone's media, the conservatives, the liberals, the commys .. none of em are telling the straight up truth .. they're all liars, the only person in the world you can trust is YOURSELF .. this argument is moot .. for those that think this and that about Europe, I think you should just pack your damn backpacks and fvckin go there .. otherwise SHUT UP! .. And for those Euros that think that the U.S is fvcked, you should go there and then SHUT UP! .. Everyone should just STFU ..

I will never understand nationalism, it's fvcking retarded. People always have to subscribe to something, they can't just be individuals, they have to be part of something bigger than themselves or something. WHO CARES!!! It's just a stuipid border and a stupid political ideology .. it's not LIFE .. I think we can all agree that sex is good, so we should all STFU .. :)

There I'm done. Everybody lighten up and chill the fvck out!



We probably won't even be able to do that, cause once everyone reaches for the beers than it's all gonna be, "My country makes better beer" ..etc etc etc .. :|
 

Scipionix

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Originally posted by: VFAA
Here's a cookie

<hands Scipionix a cookie>

Now you want proof? I suggest your closest public library (get videos and books on European countries) and than if money has it, travel to Europe.
Don't believe in everything that CNN says.

It's funny how shows such as South Park and Simpsons [edit] sometimes [edit] show negative sides of Americans, ie ignorance and lifestyle. Yet we all enjoy the shows and have it in our minds, naaahhhh that's just a TV show. Just where did these TV shows get the ideas?

Soooo, now anecdotal evidence is now the only acceptable "proof" while any empirical data is simply false . . . wow, I knew all those damned 500 year-old scientific methods were bullshit!
 

VFAA

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Originally posted by: charrison
VFAA,

Scipionix posted supporting information, please post information that supports your side.

LOL if you call that proof than you have no life :p. Reading opinions of others of what some countries look like on the web. No offence, you can learn a lot from the web these days but when it comes to things like these, there's no other way but to visit a country.

Sure we all know ie. Cuba and/or Dominican Republic is a great place to party/vacation/relax. Nice white sandy beaches throughout. Big resorts. Rich people everywhere.
Wake up and smell the roses! Get the heck outside where the local people live in these countries. You'll see a lot of poverty that you're vacation will be spoiled. Once again, get the heck out to Europe and visit it. Than come back to ATOT and bull $hit.
 

Scipionix

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Originally posted by: VFAA

LOL if you call that proof than you have no life :p. Reading opinions of others of what some countries look like on the web. No offence, you can learn a lot from the web these days but when it comes to things like these, there's no other way but to visit a country.

Sure we all know ie. Cuba and/or Dominican Republic is a great place to party/vacation/relax. Nice white sandy beaches throughout. Big resorts. Rich people everywhere.
Wake up and smell the roses! Get the heck outside where the local people live in these countries. You'll see a lot of poverty that you're vacation will be spoiled. Once again, get the heck out to Europe and visit it. Than come back to ATOT and bull $hit.
Translation: I STILL have no rebuttal, so now I will just say that the other guy has no life, even though I'm the one who has been here all night.
 

VFAA

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Ok, since you've been here all night (and I've been browsing the net for a particular cable without luck all night) than maybe you can help me. You gotta MSI G4 Ti4400 with a TV/Out connector on the card. That connector is a 9 pin female I believe and has a configuration of pins in horizontal rows, beginning with 3 on top, 4 in the middle and 2 on the bottom. I gotta G3 card and I have a similar TV/Out female connector on the card, but unfortunately I don't have a cable for it. I wanna plug my PC to my 36" TV but can't do it. I'm looking for some kind of cable or an adapter to S-VIDEO. Help me out and I will change my opinion :).

Thanks;
 

Scipionix

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Originally posted by: VFAA
Ok, since you've been here all night (and I've been browsing the net for a particular cable without luck all night) than maybe you can help me. You gotta MSI G4 Ti4400 with a TV/Out connector on the card. That connector is a 9 pin female I believe and has a configuration of pins in horizontal rows, beginning with 3 on top, 4 in the middle and 2 on the bottom. I gotta G3 card and I have a similar TV/Out female connector on the card, but unfortunately I don't have a cable for it. I wanna plug my PC to my 36" TV but can't do it. I'm looking for some kind of cable or an adapter to S-VIDEO. Help me out and I will change my opinion :).

Thanks;

According to my manual, It's a TV out/Video in, or S and C connector. I have no idea what that means. What happened to your 1 to 4 connector?
 

B00ne

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Hahaha, I gues we are duelling. But all summed up with federal tax, state tax, social security tax it becomes 30% and the data is taken from my paycheck.

The Swedish healthcare system is kinda fictional because everyone gets the same govt care.
And that regardless if you have a job or not. Same goes for studies.
How big is the fraction of your salary you get when unemployed?

Enough to get by one, and little enough to encourage you find a job that pays more.

If I got 75% for unemployment I would be applying for jobs I could not get and enjoying myself for 300 days :D

Exactly that is in MY OPINION one of the problems we have here in Germany. The unemployment insurance is so high that it is often not worth to find a new job or that ppl think" oh well Im not rich but its enough and I dont need to work" and that is just plain wrong. But it would also be wrong if the ppl that dont belong to the winners in society cant afford a home (whatever) and their kids have to suffer....


 
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Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Hahaha, I gues we are duelling. But all summed up with federal tax, state tax, social security tax it becomes 30% and the data is taken from my paycheck.

The Swedish healthcare system is kinda fictional because everyone gets the same govt care.
And that regardless if you have a job or not. Same goes for studies.
How big is the fraction of your salary you get when unemployed?

Enough to get by one, and little enough to encourage you find a job that pays more.

If I got 75% for unemployment I would be applying for jobs I could not get and enjoying myself for 300 days :D

Exactly that is in MY OPINION one of the problems we have here in Germany. The unemployment insurance is so high that it is often not worth to find a new job or that ppl think" oh well Im not rich but its enough and I dont need to work" and that is just plain wrong. But it would also be wrong if the ppl that dont belong to the winners in society cant afford a home (whatever) and their kids have to suffer....


I just need to say that after those 300 days you're out of luck.
 

VFAA

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Originally posted by: Scipionix
Originally posted by: VFAA
Ok, since you've been here all night (and I've been browsing the net for a particular cable without luck all night) than maybe you can help me. You gotta MSI G4 Ti4400 with a TV/Out connector on the card. That connector is a 9 pin female I believe and has a configuration of pins in horizontal rows, beginning with 3 on top, 4 in the middle and 2 on the bottom. I gotta G3 card and I have a similar TV/Out female connector on the card, but unfortunately I don't have a cable for it. I wanna plug my PC to my 36" TV but can't do it. I'm looking for some kind of cable or an adapter to S-VIDEO. Help me out and I will change my opinion :).

Thanks;

According to my manual, It's a TV out/Video in, or S and C connector. I have no idea what that means. What happened to your 1 to 4 connector?

I never got a cable with my video card (that's the problem). I can't find a retailer anywhere in my town or on the web that sells it. MSI calls it the 9-pin S & C connector. In your case you've got the Video In / Video Out 9-pin S & C adapter that has 4 output cables in total. I only need the TV Out 9-pin S & C cable that comes out in either in 1 or 2 output cables.
 

Scipionix

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Originally posted by: VFAA
I never got a cable with my video card (that's the problem). I can't find a retailer anywhere in my town or on the web that sells it. MSI calls it the 9-pin S & C connector. In your case you've got the Video In / Video Out 9-pin S & C adapter that has 4 output cables in total. I only need the TV Out 9-pin S & C cable that comes out in either in 1 or 2 output cables.
I don't know what to tell you if you can't find such a cable. Maybe you can make one?
 

SnapIT

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Instead of quoting lots of posts i will refer to this thread where scipiosux information was proven wrong by legitimate statistical sources...

I doubt he will ever admit that he was wrong though... What is it you call someone who won't admit that he's wrong when he's been proven wrong?
 

SnapIT

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Exactly that is in MY OPINION one of the problems we have here in Germany. The unemployment insurance is so high that it is often not worth to find a new job or that ppl think" oh well Im not rich but its enough and I dont need to work" and that is just plain wrong. But it would also be wrong if the ppl that dont belong to the winners in society cant afford a home (whatever) and their kids have to suffer....

Actually, in Sweden, even if you do not manage to get the employments that you are FORCED to apply for, you will have to do something else, like going back to the books and take classes in whatever suits your prior education...

What are the rules for unemployment support in Germany?
 

Scipionix

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Instead of quoting lots of posts i will refer to this thread where scipiosux information was proven wrong by legitimate statistical sources...

I doubt he will ever admit that he was wrong though... What is it you call someone who won't admit that he's wrong when he's been proven wrong?

Hmm. Where exactly? I must be stoopider than you.