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Why are chimps so much stronger than humans?

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Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Because we sit at keyboards and type while they swing from trees and shit. This isn't hard to deduce...

that rational only implies that humans would be just as strong if we only swung from trees all day, worked our muscles as regularly as a chimp. That's certainly not the case.

Different body proportions, muscle structure = different abilities. No amount of training will allow a human to do the kinds of things that a chimp can do.
 
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I would have beat the living shit out of that monkey.

I don't know what that lady was thinking. If I were here, when the monkey went for my face, I would've sidestepped and grabbed its arm in my armpit, followed by a quick punch in the chimp's face with my left. I then would've wrapped my left arm over and around the chimps neck in such a way as to force it into a backbreaker. Then I would've swept its legs out from underneath him, released his right arm from under my right armpit, and power-elbowed the chimp in his gut, knocking the wind out of him. I would've then reached for the Kimber Ultra Compact Carry in my ankle holster, loaded with .45ACP Hornady TAP hollow points, while holding the chimps neck in my left arm. The chimp would've then received two blasts through the spine to incapacitate him, followed by a shot to the brain after he dropped to the floor. Believe me, that chimp would never have done to me what it did to that lady. I would've handled that thing like a champ.

Sure.

I can hear the woosh.

like a low level super sonic fly by.

power level is over 9000!!!!!!111oneone :Q
 
The woman who lived with this chimp was plain stupid. She used it as a substitute husband. She said she even shared a bed with the thing!! (Now that's true "Jungle Fever" for ya'!).

Whatever she thought, a chimp is still a wild animal with approx 6x the strength of a grown human and can rip a man's head off with its bare hands if it wanted to. Apparently this one wanted to. Sucks to be her friend who was standing in the vicinity when that time bomb went off.
 
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

We have bigger schlongs too.
 
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

human are also the best long distance runners in the natural world, or pretty damn close to it.
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

human are also the best long distance runners in the natural world, or pretty damn close to it.

I read about a ultra distance competition between horses and humans... I think recently a human was able to outlast a horse on a long distance run.

Here

More here
 
Originally posted by: Maximilian
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I would have beat the living shit out of that monkey.

I don't know what that lady was thinking. If I were here, when the monkey went for my face, I would've sidestepped and grabbed its arm in my armpit, followed by a quick punch in the chimp's face with my left. I then would've wrapped my left arm over and around the chimps neck in such a way as to force it into a backbreaker. Then I would've swept its legs out from underneath him, released his right arm from under my right armpit, and power-elbowed the chimp in his gut, knocking the wind out of him. I would've then reached for the Kimber Ultra Compact Carry in my ankle holster, loaded with .45ACP Hornady TAP hollow points, while holding the chimps neck in my left arm. The chimp would've then received two blasts through the spine to incapacitate him, followed by a shot to the brain after he dropped to the floor. Believe me, that chimp would never have done to me what it did to that lady. I would've handled that thing like a champ.

Sure.

I can hear the woosh.

Heh yeah my bet would be on the chimp. Poor lady though... no face or hands... christ thats like that guy in the fly who had his face melted, but for real.

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Just imagine if we fixed the MYH16 gene and L-gulono-gamma-lactone oxidase gene gene, we'd be superior animals. :Q

Yeah, genetically engineer it to become active during puberty or something, could be bad knock on side effects though, apparently the gene being defective could be the reason behind our intelligence, as it allowed more space for a larger brain but at the cost of weaker jaws.

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I could be completely wrong on this, but I remember hearing something about how their muscles were attached to their bones, and where they were attached was part of it. Our muscles are attached closer to the ends of our bones, so we get less leverage but more movement for the amount of muscle contraction. They would have the opposite, more leverage from where their muscles attach to the bone. This is something I recall hearing, so it could be wrong.

I was reading an article on the web, it said that chimps bones are much more dense than ours, thus stronger as well. They are so much more dense that chimps would sink in water.

I read that as well whilest googling about for an answer, chimps cant throw as fast as us.

Ok so overall we've got:

1. They get more exercise
2. Denser bones
3. Denser muscles with more twitch muscles
4. Better arm leverage

I dunno i would still like to see one of our strongest people go up against a 100-150lb chimp just to see who wins. They have extremely strong arms, but what about our legs and their low stature? That would be a serious disadvantage to the chimp because it would be easy to kick.

I read somewhere a 90lb female chimp was in a ring at a circus and it was throwing people right out of the ring, apparently some of them were pretty well built people.

Human's are an absolutely pathetic beast when it comes to physical prowess. About the only thing impressive about us is the dexterity of our hands. I think its clear humans aren't really selected for strength or speed though.

I did read once that we are the only ape that doesn't despise water though.
 
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Wow...

At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass.

He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control.

Other then the whole face mauling thing, this chimp was awesome!

I am wondering what the chimps AT handle is....

Hopefully the poor victim makes a good recovery and can be fixed up enough to lead a reasonably normal life.

The woman who owned the chimp seems like a bit of a nutbag though.
 
Hahaha, you gotta laugh at the people in this thread that think they could take on a chimpanzee, especially the one involved in this incident.
 
Originally posted by: PClark99
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Wow...

At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass.

He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control.

Other then the whole face mauling thing, this chimp was awesome!

I am wondering what the chimps AT handle is....

Hopefully the poor victim makes a good recovery and can be fixed up enough to lead a reasonably normal life.

The woman who owned the chimp seems like a bit of a nutbag though.

The officers on the scene were saying things like "man down" and "he dosent look good", so thats an indication of how bad it was. I hope she can be fixed up too but it dosent seem promising.
 
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I could be completely wrong on this, but I remember hearing something about how their muscles were attached to their bones, and where they were attached was part of it. Our muscles are attached closer to the ends of our bones, so we get less leverage but more movement for the amount of muscle contraction. They would have the opposite, more leverage from where their muscles attach to the bone. This is something I recall hearing, so it could be wrong.

I was reading an article on the web, it said that chimps bones are much more dense than ours, thus stronger as well. They are so much more dense that chimps would sink in water.

I've heard this along with our human brains possibly limiting us in everyday life. There are numerous accounts of people having "superhuman strength" when their life (or the lives of others) are threatened. In these situations, we are capable of feats of strength that far surpass our everyday abilities, even when we're trying our best. (Lifting a car, moving a boulder, etc.)

Stop believing everything you hear on the Incredible Hulk. It's been off the air for decades.

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IIRC from the Strength episode. Yeah, humans are capable of amazing things in life/death situations (lifting boulders, cars, etc...) but in doing so, run the risk of ripping muscle from bone in the process.
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
IIRC from the Strength episode. Yeah, humans are capable of amazing things in life/death situations (lifting boulders, cars, etc...) but in doing so, run the risk of ripping muscle from bone in the process.
QFT

I ruptured a disc in my back, L4-L5 while weightlifting during my younger and (admittedly) stupider days. I felt the snap, and yet I was still so pumped up I managed to finish my workout.

Of course the next morning and for 3months afterwards until my surgery I was bent over like a question mark.

Needless to say my weightlifting days were over. To be honest I'm just standing upright, although not without considerable pain on some to most days.🙁
 
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

Our natural defense is our brain and it kicks any other primates ass. Humans are also awesome long distance runners/walkers (which helped spread us around the globe).
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

human are also the best long distance runners in the natural world, or pretty damn close to it.

Pronghorn antelopes >>>>> humans. A pronghorn can run a 10K in 10 minutes or less, a marathon in about 50 IIRC. Both are less than half the current world record.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
Hahaha, you gotta laugh at the people in this thread that think they could take on a chimpanzee, especially the one involved in this incident.

You want some of this too?
 
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

human are also the best long distance runners in the natural world, or pretty damn close to it.

Pronghorn antelopes >>>>> humans. A pronghorn can run a 10K in 10 minutes or less, a marathon in about 50 IIRC. Both are less than half the current world record.

Kangaroos?

Sheepdogs? I've worked from sun-up to sun-down with black and tans and kelpies that must have run pretty much all day...
 
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I would have beat the living shit out of that monkey.

Monkey? Yes. Chimp? No.
I used to work at a zoo in South Africa training the new primates we'd get in from the trappers. Generally they were pissy when uncrated but we had a technique to subdue them. They are strong, but when you get in tight and take them to the ground they have no ground fighting skills at all, so as long as they don't swing their arm at you they are in fact pretty damn easy to beat in a fight and completely panic/tap out when they get caught in a choke. Seriously, it's more myth than anything that chimps are bad ass, even at low weights.

 
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

human are also the best long distance runners in the natural world, or pretty damn close to it.

Pronghorn antelopes >>>>> humans. A pronghorn can run a 10K in 10 minutes or less, a marathon in about 50 IIRC. Both are less than half the current world record.

Kangaroos?

Sheepdogs? I've worked from sun-up to sun-down with black and tans and kelpies that must have run pretty much all day...
Them too...

I think a trained/conditioned dog (like your sheepdogs or sled dogs) can run a 'thon in something like 1:15 maybe faster. It takes a very good human runner to do a half marathon in 1:15, it'll get you a trophy in most local type runs. Current (human) world record for the marathon is about 2:03.

Dunno about kangaroos, but I imagine they'd do well also.
 
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: invidia
Humans are one of the weakest mammals, with very, very little natural defenses. Our only advantage vs. nature is our brains and sometimes that's pathetic.

Our natural defense is our brain and it kicks any other primates ass. Humans are also awesome long distance runners/walkers (which helped spread us around the globe).

The brain and our hands make up for horrible physical ability. I mean, being strong is great...but quality muscle uses up calories and so does a large brain. And you can use a long stick or group effort to do most tasks that require great amounts of strength...after that you can tame another animal and so on...
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I would have beat the living shit out of that monkey.

Monkey? Yes. Chimp? No.
I used to work at a zoo in South Africa training the new primates we'd get in from the trappers. Generally they were pissy when uncrated but we had a technique to subdue them. They are strong, but when you get in tight and take them to the ground they have no ground fighting skills at all, so as long as they don't swing their arm at you they are in fact pretty damn easy to beat in a fight and completely panic/tap out when they get caught in a choke. Seriously, it's more myth than anything that chimps are bad ass, even at low weights.

So in an all out fight superior human tactics would beat the chimp? Because we have enough strength to do damage and a much better brain.

They shaved this chimp for some reason, thats a pretty strong looking arm for sitting about eating banannas all day. I dunno i wouldnt fight it lol.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Wow...

At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass.

He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control.

Other then the whole face mauling thing, this chimp was awesome!

Sounds like the Chimp got frustrated and bored.

I don't see where she said she took the chimp to go get laid, I'd be pretty pissed too if I went XX years without getting any!
 
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I would have beat the living shit out of that monkey.

I don't know what that lady was thinking. If I were here, when the monkey went for my face, I would've sidestepped and grabbed its arm in my armpit, followed by a quick punch in the chimp's face with my left. I then would've wrapped my left arm over and around the chimps neck in such a way as to force it into a backbreaker. Then I would've swept its legs out from underneath him, released his right arm from under my right armpit, and power-elbowed the chimp in his gut, knocking the wind out of him. I would've then reached for the Kimber Ultra Compact Carry in my ankle holster, loaded with .45ACP Hornady TAP hollow points, while holding the chimps neck in my left arm. The chimp would've then received two blasts through the spine to incapacitate him, followed by a shot to the brain after he dropped to the floor. Believe me, that chimp would never have done to me what it did to that lady. I would've handled that thing like a champ.

:|

chimp =! monkey

chimp = ape

:|
 
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