Why are certain ethnicities more sensitive about ethnic jokes than others?

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: jai6638
sorry to thread crap but ..

Q. Who is the co-founder of Sun Microsystems?
A. Vinod Khosla

Q. Who is the creator of Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the
today's computers run on it)?
A. Vinod Dahm

Q. Who is the third richest man on the world?
A. According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is Aziz Premji,
who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of
Brunei is at 6th position now.

Q. Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world's No.1 web
x-udd email program)?
A. Sabeer Bhatia

Q. Who is the president of AT & T-Bell Labs (AT & T-Bell Labs is the creator
of program languages such as C, C++, Unix
to name a few)?
A. Arun Netravalli

Q. Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard?
A. Rajiv Gupta

Q. Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000,
responsible to iron out all initial problems?
A. Sanjay Tejwrika

Q. Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, Mckensey & Stanchart?
A. Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar.


We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America, even
faring better than the whites and the natives.

There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET,

* 38% of doctors in USA are Indians.

* 12% scientists in USA are Indians.

* 36% of NASA scientists are Indians.

* 34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.

* 28% of IBM employees are Indians.

* 17% of I! NTEL sci entists are Indians.

* 13% of XEROX employees are Indians.


Some of the following facts may be known to you. These facts were recently
published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTORY FACTS ABOUT
INDIA.


1. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history.

2. India invented the Number system. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta.

3. The world's first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More
than 10,500 students from all over the world
studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the
4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements
of ancient India in the field of education.

4. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language
for computer software.

5. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans.

6. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty striken
and underdeveloped through political
corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth.

7. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The
very word "Navigation" is derived from the Sanskrit
word NAVGATIH.

8. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the
concept of what is now known as the Pythagorean
Theorem.British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that
Budhayan's works dates to the 6th Century which
is long before the European mathematicians.

9. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations
were by Sridharacharya in the 11th Century; the
largestnumbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians
used numbers as big as 53.

10. According to the Gemological Institute of America, up until! 1896, India
was the only source of diamonds to the world.

11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst
academics that the pioneer of wireless
communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi.

12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.

13. Chess was invented in India.

14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health
scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans,
cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well
known in ancient India.

15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over
P00 years ago, Indians established Harappan
culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilisation).

16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100
1/4.

"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever
having to send a single soldier across her border" - Hu Shih (former Chinese
ambassador to USA)

click here for the whole thing

I dont mean to boast but look at the achievements of the indians above.. i bet now im gonna have people tell me like in the other forum that it reflects poorly on the condition of India as this results in a brain drain..

Man, I'm indian too, and you so took this thread WAY to seriously, which is the entire point. You're also a dumbass.

The point is, we can laugh about these stereotypes because we know that we have succes stories like what you've pointed out.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: HomerJS
If black people couldn't take a joke, Chris Rock would not be so popular.

Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it seems to me that black people can only take a joke as long as it comes from another black person.

Lets see a white comedian go up there and use all kinds of vulgar slang in reference to other races..

Call Al Sharpton, we would have a KKK member.

Just like the same way if an asian comedia made fun of white people he'd be called a rascis or improperly stereotypical.

It's okay if stuff comes out of the mouth of someone thats off the same race.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Did you know that Indians also invented morning, the opposable thumb and the color orange?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: isasir
For the most part, I've noticed that many caucasians aren't bothered by redneck/cracker etc. comments, at least not to a great extent.

Well it seems a little disingenuous when you are at the top of the pecking order in society.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: HomerJS
If black people couldn't take a joke, Chris Rock would not be so popular.

Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it seems to me that black people can only take a joke as long as it comes from another black person.

Lets see a white comedian go up there and use all kinds of vulgar slang in reference to other races..

Call Al Sharpton, we would have a KKK member.

Obviously you have never watched George Carlin.

 

[BigJ]

As far as the Italian thing goes, I think it's a lot of the older generation Italians, or the one's that have a great amount of Italian pride.

My Italian teacher, an 86 year old man who came to America when he was 18, absolutely hates the portrayal of certain things Italians are normally associated with on TV, especially the shows that you mentioned, and even the Godfather. I think it's a combination of the negative stereotype associated with Italians, but even more-so the fact that such a negative part of the Italian culture is focused on with these shows/movies.

The "Cosa Nostra" as he called it, was something to be taken very, very seriously in Southern Italy. He's told us stories of how people would go missing during the night, and people would act as though nothing happened, and the horror that they instilled in the communities. Of how they influenced local businesses. Your typical mafia dealings. So when he sees stuff like this glorified on television and in the movies, he's absolutely disgusted at it.

He doesn't have that much of a problem with your typical average Italian-American portrayal (the wine-drinking, pasta-eating, hairy thing), but the mafia glorification is a very sensitive issue towards him. So I guess if you took something from Indian culture that was on par with the mafia in Italian culture, and then glorified it on American TV, people may be a lot more sensitive to it.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: HomerJS
If black people couldn't take a joke, Chris Rock would not be so popular.

Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it seems to me that black people can only take a joke as long as it comes from another black person.

Lets see a white comedian go up there and use all kinds of vulgar slang in reference to other races..

Call Al Sharpton, we would have a KKK member.

There are plenty of white comedians that do "black jokes". I don'n know what you are talking about.

 

[isasir]

Oh yeah, I remember also hearing that some Italians had an issue with Robert DeNiro's role in Shark Tale...

 

[dandruff]

Originally posted by: jai6638
sorry to thread crap but ..

click here for the whole thing

I dont mean to boast but look at the achievements of the indians above.. i bet now im gonna have people tell me like in the other forum that it reflects poorly on the condition of India as this results in a brain drain..
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"achievements of the Indians" - heres some INDIAN achievement to boast you dumbtard:

India still has the world?s largest number of poor people in a single country. Of its nearly 1 billion inhabitants, an estimated 350-400 million are below the poverty line, 75 per cent of them in the rural areas.

More than 40 per cent of the population is illiterate, with women, tribal and scheduled castes particularly affected.

India is home to over onethird of the world?s poor people. As of 2001, the country?s per capitagross national income was $460, slightly higher than low-incomecountries worldwide

India is stillhome to the world?s largest number of illiterate people. India accountsfor 20 percent of the world?s out-of-school children and for 20 percentof the gender gap in elementary education.

Maternal mortality remains high, particularly in rural areas, with estimates at 479 deathsper 100,000 live births. Maternal deaths in India account for almost 25percent of the world?s childbirth-related deaths.

Many of India?s women are malnourished with anemia,which is present in 60 percent of the female population.Despite improvements in health and well-being, malnutrition remains asilent emergency in India. Almost half of all children under the age offive are malnourished and 34 percent of newborns are significantlyunderweight.

infant mortality in the U.S. is 6.9 per 1000 live births according to the Center for Disease Control (2000 figures). Even Mexico and China?comparable countries?have much lower, 25 and 27 respectively, infant mortality rates than India.

nearly a third of India's billion-plus population, live below an officially defined "poverty line." At least 50 million of these people are on the brink of starvation.

... mass email this ... achievements my A@#%E ... and thats only poverty and hunger ... when you have kids dying of starvation ... boast of this ... i hate such dumb stupid ppl who float those facts - i bet i can make a similar list for bhutan ... and i am sure i can bust most of those statements - not invading another country - lick my a-hole ...

 

[phreakah]

somebody gonna get a hurt

 

[rh71]

it depends on who says it and how we think they believe it. Truth and bigotry are two different things.

 

[CRXican]

it's because they know the sterotypes are true and they don't like it

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: CRXican
it's because they know the sterotypes are true and they don't like it

:roll:

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: yllus
We "brown people" aren't very media-savvy yet. We probably should care a little more about the negative stereotyping that takes place in the media.

Do you think this is the reason though? I mean, maybe it's just me personally, but I don't care too much if I see an Indian cab driver character on TV. My main concern is that, if you're going to have an Indian character on TV, at least hire an Indian actor!

What about the stereotype that all Indian parents try to get their kids to become Doctors? Or otherwise very successful. This is true of a lot of asian cultures, Chinese, Vietmanese, and Indian. All stereotypes are based off truth's, and I do mean all of them.

I jsut happen to know that the whole driving your children to become doctors is fact, and I don't see anything wrong with it. Thats why there are so many successful Indian's in this country.

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: isasir

Originally posted by: yllus
We "brown people" aren't very media-savvy yet. We probably should care a little more about the negative stereotyping that takes place in the media.

Do you think this is the reason though? I mean, maybe it's just me personally, but I don't care too much if I see an Indian cab driver character on TV. My main concern is that, if you're going to have an Indian character on TV, at least hire an Indian actor!

What about the stereotype that all Indian parents try to get their kids to become Doctors? Or otherwise very successful. This is true of a lot of asian cultures, Chinese, Vietmanese, and Indian. All stereotypes are based off truth's, and I do mean all of them.

I jsut happen to know that the whole driving your children to become doctors is fact, and I don't see anything wrong with it. Thats why there are so many successful Indian's in this country.

I went to NYU with the plan to become a doctor, as decreed by my parents and grandparents. Organic chemistry kicked my ass, so here I am now, using my Computer Science degree.

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: HomerJS
If black people couldn't take a joke, Chris Rock would not be so popular.

Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it seems to me that black people can only take a joke as long as it comes from another black person.

Lets see a white comedian go up there and use all kinds of vulgar slang in reference to other races..

Call Al Sharpton, we would have a KKK member.

Just like the same way if an asian comedia made fun of white people he'd be called a rascis or improperly stereotypical.

It's okay if stuff comes out of the mouth of someone thats off the same race.

I wasnt talking about "black jokes" I was talking about the words that were used. I feel the term "cracker" is the same as "great person". How many times is the word "cracker" used in a black comedian's routine? 10,000? How many times is "great person" used in carlins? 0?

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: CRXican
it's because they know the sterotypes are true and they don't like it

1. Maybe its because in history and current we have gotten the "short end of the stick" in everything. To make jokes about it, based on history - (a) the jokes context...and (b) who is making the joke - Carries a lot of weight.

2. I could call my wife a moody bitch but i may smack the piss outta you if YOU call my wife a moody bitch.

3. A. think of some bad black sterotypes....
B. - Now think of some bad white or ANY race sterotypes. - IM sure yours will NOT include - Rapist, Child molesters, Billion dollar fruadsters, Teen Suicudal depressed persons, genocidal maniacs....etc etc etc. and Canibals. LOL

Basically we are the only race that gets all the bad sterotypes, the Indian is the 7-11 owner and we are the 7-11 stick up kid. White people DONT get the label of the Drug trafficer or the 7-11 401k Fund swindler.

Maybe this is why? Think of the history of racism in the USA. Why is it hard to understand that a black person could make a "joke" (dark comedy) about slavery and i white person couldnt. It would be akin to a jewish person making some type of joke about a Ghetto or camp and people laughing about it. Now think of a nazi or even any German making that same joke about Jews......dont you think they will be a BIT sensitive?

For the record i really dont care about jokes. BUT it is a very thin line. That line crossed very far when for instance HOT 97. played a Tsunami Parody song.

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: beyoku

Originally posted by: CRXican
it's because they know the sterotypes are true and they don't like it

1. Maybe its because in history and current we have gotten the "short end of the stick" in everything. To make jokes about it, based on history - (a) the jokes context...and (b) who is making the joke - Carries a lot of weight.

2. I could call my wife a moody bitch but i may smack the piss outta you if YOU call my wife a moody bitch.

3. A. think of some bad black sterotypes....
B. - Now think of some bad white or ANY race sterotypes. - IM sure yours will NOT include - Rapist, Child molesters, Billion dollar fruadsters, Teen Suicudal depressed persons, genocidal maniacs....etc etc etc. and Canibals. LOL

Basically we are the only race that gets all the bad sterotypes, the Indian is the 7-11 owner and we are the 7-11 stick up kid. White people DONT get the label of the Drug trafficer or the 7-11 401k Fund swindler.

Maybe this is why? Think of the history of racism in the USA. Why is it hard to understand that a black person could make a "joke" (dark comedy) about slavery and i white person couldnt. It would be akin to a jewish person making some type of joke about a Ghetto or camp and people laughing about it. Now think of a nazi or even any German making that same joke about Jews......dont you think they will be a BIT sensitive?

For the record i really dont care about jokes. BUT it is a very thin line. That line crossed very far when for instance HOT 97. played a Tsunami Parody song.

lol.. your fatal flaw was you were thinking of white business men. Instead picture white trailer trash.. Hmm.. Did your perceived stereotypes change?

 

[dandruff]

There is no smoke without fire ... 99% stereotypes stem from facts ...

from retarded mexicans to dumb white women to stupid poles to excellent bavarian region mechanical stuff to swiss chocolate to poets in seattle to jazz in kansas city ... endless list ...

 

[xospec1alk]

Im asian, and not really offended by stereotypical asian jokes. bfd i always say. When my friends were all up in arms about the abercrombie fiasco, i sat back and laughed about it. those tshirts WERE funnny. and people who think otherwise have a stick up their a$$ and are just waaay too sensitive imho. I think some people just aren't wise enough to distinguish between true racism and a harmless joke.

 

[iversonyin]

Let me guess, the OP is an engineer

I'm asians and I'm not offended by asians jokes if they are funny.

 

[Attrox]

Originally posted by: JonathanYoung
I wonder why blacks are so sensitive... they seem to be the most racist and stereotypical of all... I see it all the time on the basketball court. I'm Chinese and don't look like I can play, and when I school them they attribute it to "luck" and start calling me Yao Ming (Jackie Chan before Yao Ming went to the NBA). I would say I'm not that sensitive but it bothers me that any Chinese dude who plays basketball is referred to as "Yao Ming" by blacks and messicans.

Yeah, remember in Rush Hour 2 Chris Tucker made a joke at Jacky that "You all look alike". It doesn't bother me at all but got me thinking what happened if a white/asian was the one who made that joke to a black person.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Originally posted by: HomerJS
If black people couldn't take a joke, Chris Rock would not be so popular.

Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it seems to me that black people can only take a joke as long as it comes from another black person.

Lets see a white comedian go up there and use all kinds of vulgar slang in reference to other races..

Call Al Sharpton, we would have a KKK member.

Just like the same way if an asian comedia made fun of white people he'd be called a rascis or improperly stereotypical.

It's okay if stuff comes out of the mouth of someone thats off the same race.

I wasnt talking about "black jokes" I was talking about the words that were used. I feel the term "cracker" is the same as "great person". How many times is the word "cracker" used in a black comedian's routine? 10,000? How many times is "great person" used in carlins? 0?

Another lie. Show me the transcript where any black comedian used the word cracker? Let alone 10,000 times.

 

[isasir]

Hey classy, I'd (seriously) be interested to hear your comments on the topic, since this thread spawned from a discussion you and I were having in that Al Sharpton thread in P&N.

 

[xospec1alk]

link to p&n thread?