why are blacks a key constituency for democrats?

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Lifer
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Hey... the facts are right in front of as reported by the Huffington Post.

The two most racist states in the country by voting habit are West Va and Arkansas and BOTH are completely dominated by Democrats.

I didn't think the Huffingtonpost was a credible news source on these forums which is especially ironic coming from someone of your ilk.
 

SparkyJJO

Lifer
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You're calling blacks who vote against a black Republican racist?

Wrong. You don't even know what racism is.

*blah blah snip*

Sigh. No I am not. You're taking two statements I made and mashing them together in a way not intended to get to your wacky conclusion. Is it that hard to simply read what I said instead of trying to twist everything I say? :rolleyes:
 

xj0hnx

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Sigh. No I am not. You're taking two statements I made and mashing them together in a way not intended to get to your wacky conclusion. Is it that hard to simply read what I said instead of trying to twist everything I say? :rolleyes:

If he was honest about it, it wouldn't support his predetermined conclusions.
 

Griffinhart

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Before the Civil Rights Movement that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Which party objected to Civil Rights (and still does)?

Southern Democrats rejected Civil Rights. They Even led a filibuster against Civil Rights legistlation. Even Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican.
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
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just heard rachel maddow say that blacks were key constituents for D's every year, but especially now since obama is running for re-election.
so because obama is black, black voters are even more important?

It goes back to Mr.Truman desegregating the Military. The 1948 Democratic Party Plank outlawing lyching. JFK's and LBJ's support of the Civil Right Movement and 1964 Civil Rights Bill.

The GOP showed their support of civil rights by Mr Nixon's and Mr Reagan's Southern Strategy, segregation, etc. If you want to get an idea of where the GOP is in regard of Afro-Americans look at what the GOP supporters on this forum post in any thread that is even remotely related to Afro-Americans.
They sound like racist assholes.

BTW, this question\statement keeps coming up on this forum. If race was the most important issue with Afro-Americans, they would have flocked to Alan Keyes back in 2008 and would be flocking to Mr Cain now. That did not happened and as far as I can see that is not happening now.

The truth is GOP domestic policies have been dominantly pro-rich, pro-business, anti-labor, anti-education, and anti-minority rights at least since 1980. These are the reasons most Afro-Americans vote for the Democratic Party.
 

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"But I know that the vote of 9 out of 10 black Americans for the Democratic Party or for leftist kinds of policies just is not reflective of their political opinions."- Clarence Thomas

"Even as someone who's labeled a conservative - I'm a Republican I'm black, I'm heading up this organization in the Reagan administration - I can say that conservatives don't exactly break their necks to tell blacks that they're welcome." - Clarence Thomas
 
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Lifer
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No I don't think that 'exploiting racial polarization' is the same as running a racist campaign.

If the campaign was racist then find me evidence of the racism.

You forget that Democrats kept winning the local and state elections after the civil rights act was passed. Nothing changed on the local level. The same racist Democrats that were in power in 1964 were in power in 1966 and 68 etc etc.

The only difference was in the Presidential elections where the Republicans started winning southern states. So explain to me how Goldwater and Nixon made an appeal to the southern voters via racism.

What policies of theirs were racist?

It is just idiocy on your behalf. Everything that was bad or racist that happened in the south happened due to Democrats. And you guys completely gloss over and ignore that and latch on to this idea that all the racist Democrats left the party and became Republicans when there is nothing to back up the claim.

If all the racist Democrats became Republican then why did it take 30 years for the GOP to win a majority of house seats in the south?

Why has Arkansas only had 3 Republican governors since 1874?
Why weren't there ANY Republican governors in Alabama until 1987?
Why did it take until 2003 for there to be a Republican governor in Georgia?
Louisiana, first Republican governor won office in 1980.
Mississippi, 1992.
North Carolina, 1973.
South Carolina, 1975
Tennessee, 1971.
Texas, 1979.
Virginia, 1970.
West Virginia 1969.

That is EVERY southern state and in EVERY ONE of them the Democrats were in control before AND after the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed. And in EVERY ONE of them the Democrats won the governors race that occurred after the civil rights act. And in most cases the Democrats controlled the state for a decade or more after the civil rights act were passed.

All the white racists were Democrats before the civil rights act and they were Democrats after the civil rights act. Every leading racist Democrat died a Democrat, except Thurmond. There was NO mass exodus from the Democratic party after the civil rights bill passed. The only thing that changed was in national elections, at every other level the white racists kept voting for Democrats.

What a truly embarrassing and despicable post. It is well known even among many hardcore wingnuts that Southern Dems switched parties to the Repubs and that the Southern strategy existed and existed quite vividly among everyone that actually lived through the era.
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
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What a truly embarrassing and despicable post. It is well known even among many hardcore wingnuts that Southern Dems switched parties to the Repubs and that the Southern strategy existed and existed quite vividly among everyone that actually lived through the era.

The Southern States went from a solid block for Democratic Party to a solid block for the GOP. This started when the "Dixie Crats" marched out of the 1948 Democratic Party to when the Democratic Party under JFK and LBJ supported civil rights in 1960's.

If the GOP really wants the Afro-American vote they are going to have to step away from the Southern Strategy and the fantasy that Afro-Americans are mindless supporters of the Democratic Party because they are all welfare queens who live sponge off of the real Americans.
Going by this forum GOP supporters that is not going to happen.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
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What a truly embarrassing and despicable post. It is well known even among many hardcore wingnuts that Southern Dems switched parties to the Repubs and that the Southern strategy existed and existed quite vividly among everyone that actually lived through the era.
Completely false.

All the wingnut southern Democrats died as Democrats, except for one. Every other major southern leader involved in segregation was a Democrat till the day he died.

And the Democrat party which was filled with racist southerners stayed in control of the south LONG after the civil rights bill was passed.

The only thing that changed was in national presidential elections where the southern racist Democrats stopped voting for Democrats and started voting for Republicans.

At every other level though the racist Democrats who controlled the south in 1964 still controlled it years later.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
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The Southern States went from a solid block for Democratic Party to a solid block for the GOP.
That only happened in national elections.

At state and local levels the solid south stayed solid for almost 30 years. 1994 was the first time in 100 years that Republicans held a majority of house seats in the south.
 

Craig234

Lifer
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Sigh. No I am not. You're taking two statements I made and mashing them together in a way not intended to get to your wacky conclusion. Is it that hard to simply read what I said instead of trying to twist everything I say? :rolleyes:

Write what you mean, then.