why are blacks a key constituency for democrats?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

just heard rachel maddow say that blacks were key constituents for D's every year, but especially now since obama is running for re-election.
so because obama is black, black voters are even more important?

 

[EagleKeeper]

The impression being given is the she feels blacks will standby Obama no matter how his track record is due to color.
Which is exactly what this country has been trying to fight; that you judge a man by his deeds and character, not his skin color.

 

[KGB]

just heard rachel maddow say that blacks were key constituents for D's every year, but especially now since obama is running for re-election.
so because obama is black, black voters are even more important?

How old are you?

 

[BladeVenom]

Before the welfare state that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

 

[fskimospy]

Black voters voted for Obama in approximately the same percentages that they voted for previous Democrats. Al Gore got about 90%, Kerry 88%, and Obama 96%. It was higher, but black people already almost universally vote for Democrats anyway. Turnout was higher however, so they are more important in that respect, yes. The idea that black people are voting for Obama because he is black isn't supported by the evidence. In addition, black people vote for Democrats overwhelmingly regardless of economic strata. The idea that black people are doing it for welfare state benefits is also unsupported by the evidence.

Republicans have been implicitly running against black people since Nixon developed the Southern Strategy. Is it really at all surprising that when you campaign against a certain group of people that they don't vote for you? Seriously is anyone here that naive?

 

[HendrixFan]

Before the welfare state that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Before the Civil Rights Movement that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Which party objected to Civil Rights (and still does)?

 

[fskimospy]

Before the Civil Rights Movement that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Which party objected to Civil Rights (and still does)?

In before the 'DEMOCRATS OPPOSED CIVIL RIGHTS' red herring!

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Black folks are a key Democrat constituency because if you aren't white, evangelical, and/or really rich the Republican party is out to get you.

 

[Red Dawn]

DP

 

[soundforbjt]

Why are the white religous evangelicals a key constituency for the republicans?

 

[Red Dawn]

The impression being given is the she feels blacks will standby Obama no matter how his track record is due to color.
Which is exactly what this country has been trying to fight; that you judge a man by his deeds and character, not his skin color.

Or his religion. White Evangelicals are no different.

 

[Red Dawn]

just heard rachel maddow say that blacks were key constituents for D's every year, but especially now since obama is running for re-election.
so because obama is black, black voters are even more important?

Well to them he'd have more empathy for their concerns, makes perfect sesne, the same reason Evangelicals would vote for Perry or Batshit Bachman

 

[Rainsford]

The impression being given is the she feels blacks will standby Obama no matter how his track record is due to color.
Which is exactly what this country has been trying to fight; that you judge a man by his deeds and character, not his skin color.

Do you have any actual evidence to support that? So far we've just got someone on the Internet paraphrasing what a pundit said, and you even further paraphrasing the point.

If you really are concerned about moving beyond skin color in this country, and not just when you think black people should do it, you might want to take a closer look at our country in general. You don't even have to go very far, just look at opposition to Obama. I'm not going to claim everyone who opposes him is racist, that would be stupid. But he's been subject to the kind of attacks I doubt a white guy who's dad was from Norway would go through.

 

[xj0hnx]

Before the Civil Rights Movement that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Which party objected to Civil Rights (and still does)?

You aren't seriously trying to imply that Republicans are against Civil Rights? Why would you even make such a retarded statement? Are you really that much of a partisan hack?

 

[xj0hnx]

You don't even have to go very far, just look at opposition to Obama. I'm not going to claim everyone who opposes him is racist, that would be stupid. But he's been subject to the kind of attacks I doubt a white guy who's dad was from Norway would go through.

Bullshit, but since that's pretty much the only card in the liberal deck it's no wonder you might think that. I'm not saying there aren't some people that oppose him because he's black, but it isn't even close to the magnitude that the left tries to pretend. And if you don't think there's any Democrats that feel the same way, you are naive.

 

[Ausm]

Before the welfare state that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Nice Dog whistle

 

[Red Dawn]

Bullshit, but since that's pretty much the only card in the liberal deck it's no wonder you might think that. I'm not saying there aren't some people that oppose him because he's black, but it isn't even close to the magnitude that the left tries to pretend. And if you don't think there's any Democrats that feel the same way, you are naive.

Yeah he's probably confusing their utter ignorance with racism though racism is a form of ignorance.

 

[Ausm]

Why are Corporations a key constituency for the republicans?

 

[Jhhnn]

Before the welfare state that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Nice bit of misattribution. Before civil rights, before the Party of Lincoln turned their backs on people of color in pursuit of their southern strategy, many blacks were Republicans.

Just tell the truth, OK?

 

[her209]

You aren't seriously trying to imply that Republicans are against Civil Rights? Why would you even make such a retarded statement? Are you really that much of a partisan hack?

When you have Republicans openly calling for the repeal of CRA, yes.

 

[Craig234]

Before the Civil Rights Movement that began in the 60's, blacks were usually Republican.

Which party objected to Civil Rights (and still does)?

The basic history is that The Democratic Party was largely the South around the time of the civil war, and the new Republican party was largely the 'north'.

The Republicans' first president, Lincoln, 'freed the slaves', and blacks' loyalty was set for decades to come.

The whole nation was basically racist this whole time. Not as much as the south, but quite racist, and the parties were not far apart on it.

Up through the 50's, both parties had a claim to the black vote. The Democrats' northern faction had some more pro-black activities - appointing black judges, integrating the military - but it also had the boweevils, the racist Southern Democrats who filibustered civil rights bills. This was the case headed into the JFK-Nixon elections.

Starting then, JFK called Martin Luther King's wife while he was in jail, symbolically showing support for the blacks - but quite cautiously. While president, he changed a lot on the issue and became with his brother a leader for civil rights. He was the first president to tell the nation it was a moral issue. This was where Democrats sided with blacks; in the 60's, this also led to the black riots. Republicans chose to use the issue for themselves by siding with whites and racists against blacks.

This was called the 'Southern Strategy' in the Nixon campaign. LBJ had said when he signed the civil rights bill that he'd handed the White House to Republicans for many years to come; Republicans made sure of it. This was 'dog whistle' politics, and the end of the 'Solid South', which further became and largely stayed Republican with Reagan (who began his campaign with a states' rights (code for anti-civil rights)speech in Mississippi where civil rights had been killed.

This is the modern history; since Reagan, Republicans have been the party of the rich, while Democrats had launched the war on poverty and helped the poor.

 

[HendrixFan]

You aren't seriously trying to imply that Republicans are against Civil Rights? Why would you even make such a retarded statement? Are you really that much of a partisan hack?

They were the opposition to the Civil Rights in the 60s, they are the opposition now to Gay Rights. Dispute that if you can.

 

[bfdd]

it's pretty funny to me the blatant racism that goes on trying to get the "black vote" or the "latino vote". lols, sup bigots.

 

[xj0hnx]

When you have Republicans openly calling for the repeal of CRA, yes.

Link to the Republican party openly calling for a repeal of the CRA please.

They were the opposition to the Civil Rights in the 60s, they are the opposition now to Gay Rights. Dispute that if you can.

If by "They" you mean the opposition which was mostly Democrats then sure, whatever, oh wait, you must mean the Democrats that were really Republicans because Democrats get to selectively disown their own when they don't/didn't follow the popular side. Republicans overwhelmingly had a higher percentage of yea's than nay's. As far as opposition to gay rights, unfortunately yes, there is a large percentage of loony moral majority fuck wits claiming Republican, which is why I am not.

 

[fskimospy]

Link to the Republican party openly calling for a repeal of the CRA please.



If by "They" you mean the opposition which was mostly Democrats then sure, whatever, oh wait, you must mean the Democrats that were really Republicans because Democrats get to selectively disown their own when they don't/didn't follow the popular side. Republicans overwhelmingly had a higher percentage of yea's than nay's. As far as opposition to gay rights, unfortunately yes, there is a large percentage of loony moral majority fuck wits claiming Republican, which is why I am not.

Hahaha, that's why I wrote 'in before the Democrats opposed civil rights red herring'.

As has been repeated ad nauseum on here, Democrats at the time were split into southern and northern factions. The northern Democrats are what Democrats are today, and the Southern Democrats were folded into the Republican Party, a party that later explicitly adopted their racist concerns through the southern strategy. This history really isn't in dispute.

The Republican Party as it exists today represents those parties who were a backlash against civil rights legislation. Period. If anyone can't grasp why black people don't vote for the anti black rights party more, I don't know what to tell you.