Who's ready for $15 an hour?

z1ggy

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May 17, 2008
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In all fairness, CA is expensive af. Here in NJ, rent for even a total dump is like $1600 a month. I don't know how anybody could live here just off min wage without having to give a few truck stop handies or something...
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Given that the average McDonalds employee either doesnt speak fluent English and routinely fucks up my order, or has some sort of brain malfunction and routinely fucks up my order, I think I'm OK with this.
 
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DaveSimmons

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Aug 12, 2001
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Automation becomes cheaper over time, so corporate will do that even for $1 an hour wages.

Wages slaves might as well get the $15 while they can, until the robots come for their medicine.
 

edro

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Apr 5, 2002
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I'm totally fine with this.
I just wish there were an app that I could enter my order into (saves common orders), NFC it to the kiosk (or drive through order kiosk), then pickup my order.
It eliminates error from miscommunication and/or careless employees.

I commonly order:
Wendys #6, Plain
Chili instead of fries
small diet drink

It takes a few back and fourths before they get it right.
They have to enter it as:
Wendy's #6 Small
Plain
Sub Chili
Diet Drink

I wish I could just NFC my commonly used order to the damn screen.
 
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After watching a bunch of clearly retarded people fumbling their way through the self-checkout aisles at my local grocery store for the last few years, I suspect that while Walmart and McDonald's might stick with self-ordering kiosks, most "fast casual" places like Chipotle, and even Subway, will probably revert to humans who actually know which buttons to press, and can do so quickly.

Even a 5% drop in order entry speed during a lunch rush is costing you a LOT of money.
 

z1ggy

Lifer
May 17, 2008
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After watching a bunch of clearly retarded people fumbling their way through the self-checkout aisles at my local grocery store for the last few years, I suspect that while Walmart and McDonald's might stick with self-ordering kiosks, most "fast casual" places like Chipotle, and even Subway, will probably revert to humans who actually know which buttons to press, and can do so quickly.

Even a 5% drop in order entry speed during a lunch rush is costing you a LOT of money.
Especially when 1 or more machines break, and the human who is monitoring all of them is also a derp. That's even slower. That's why at grocery store I don't bother with self check out unless I have like <5 things.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Especially when 1 or more machines break, and the human who is monitoring all of them is also a derp. That's even slower. That's why at grocery store I don't bother with self check out unless I have like <5 things.

And the alternative is to get into the regular line where the person in line in front of you can't swipe his debit card to pay without a 15 minute consultation with the head cashier, a phone call to his bank and a prediction from a ouija board.

I'd wholeheartedly support legislation to force all banks and retailers to standardize to a single card/reader configuration where things are keyed with notches and cutouts so that every card gets done the same way at every checkout. Face up, top of card inserted every time every place nationwide.
 

rh71

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Aug 28, 2001
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We have those kiosks at ours in NY too. I couldn't for the life of me find where the apple juice item was through any of their screens. Gave up and went up to the counter after 3 minutes on that thing. FFS.
 

DaveSimmons

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Aug 12, 2001
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Please place the item back in the bagging area.
Please place the item back in the bagging area.
Please place the item back in the bagging area.
Associate Assistance needed.

Goddammit!

Yeah, and I tried using my own canvas bag instead of plastic and it wanted me to buy it. I'd rather deal with humans than a semi-working self-checkout.
 

Humpy

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Mar 3, 2011
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That touchscreen is teeming with ZikaAids and ass-matter.
 

John Connor

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Nov 30, 2012
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Please place the item back in the bagging area.
Please place the item back in the bagging area.
Please place the item back in the bagging area.
Associate Assistance needed.

Goddammit!


LOL! You just have to learn to put each and every item on that scale with the bags. I often wonder how sensitive it is. Because it will know if you don't put gum on the damn thing.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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That touchscreen is teeming with ZikaAids and ass-matter.
I detest those touch screen beverage dispensers. Getting drinks for multiple customers is an inherently parallel problem. In the good old days, there were at least two ice chutes and a plethora of beverage spigots meaning more than one customer could obtain sustenance at the same time, multi-threaded. The stupid touch screen beverage-o-tron is inherently single threaded and bottlenecks the process. Add to that, the time customers need to pull up their drink desires from static storage and the process gets even slower. With the parallel system, the beverage logos are right there above the spigot, no waiting for memory. loading.
 

KentState

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Oct 19, 2001
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I'm totally fine with this.
I just wish there were an app that I could enter my order into (saves common orders), NFC it to the kiosk (or drive through order kiosk), then pickup my order.
It eliminates error from miscommunication and/or careless employees.

I commonly order:
Wendys #6, Plain
Chili instead of fries
small diet drink

It takes a few back and fourths before they get it right.
They have to enter it as:
Wendy's #6 Small
Plain
Sub Chili
Diet Drink

I wish I could just NFC my commonly used order to the damn screen.

Both Chick-fil-a and Starbucks have something like this already. Create your order on their app, submit it and get your order at the pickup window.
 
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Ken g6

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After watching a bunch of clearly retarded people fumbling their way through the self-checkout aisles at my local grocery store for the last few years, I suspect that while Walmart and McDonald's might stick with self-ordering kiosks, most "fast casual" places like Chipotle, and even Subway, will probably revert to humans who actually know which buttons to press, and can do so quickly.

Even a 5% drop in order entry speed during a lunch rush is costing you a LOT of money.
At this point, with interactive natural language recognition from companies like Google, Apple, and Amazon, why do we need anyone pressing any buttons at all? (Edit: I just remembered, we don't, at least at one place!) Though a touchscreen might be useful in correcting orders.
 

magomago

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Sep 28, 2002
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at 15 dollars per hour, the heavy investment in automation begins to make sense. If it takes place, expect amazing automation solutions within 5-10 years that makes "self check out" look silly. Imagine a full McDonald's easily run by 2 people during peak hours...
 

piasabird

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Feb 6, 2002
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Drones to serve food soon.

We should feel privileged when an employee at McDonalds speaks English. I have not been to McDonalds for about 5 years or so. In Chicago I was hard pressed to find an English speaking person to serve me at Burger King. They actually spoke better English at the Mexican Restaurant.
 
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edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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Both Chick-fil-a and Starbucks have something like this already. Create your order on their app, submit it and get your order at the pickup window.
Nice! Will have to check out the next time I go to Chic-fil-a.
I lost my Uggs, so I can't go to Starbucks anymore.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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at 15 dollars per hour, the heavy investment in automation begins to make sense. If it takes place, expect amazing automation solutions within 5-10 years that makes "self check out" look silly. Imagine a full McDonald's easily run by 2 people during peak hours...

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