Who's playing Deus Ex??

[randomlinh]

hehe. Well, i play at 8x6 cause it's the same as 640 for me (i find this out when, nearly 4/5 thru the game? geeez. All detail low cause it just gets too damn choppy when a bot just starts shooting and i try to run.

Ah well, still a good game... but the damn thing hosed my system... i started the game.. it shut my computer down, upon reboot, my last three save files were corrupted (shown by win2k chkdsk in the begining)... then boot failure!!! grrrr.


And does it crash on exit for anyone else (in win2k)?? I get memory errors on the very tailing part of exiting. Random crashes too of the game. It either doesn't seem to be programmed well, or the d3d workings in win2k don't like it (tnt2pro->ultra, and no, it's not the overclocking).

The strangest part is, my roommate and I were at the same exact part of the game (we are sorta competing to see who beats it first And two ppl playing the same game at the same time using speakers is entertaining )... I start talking w/ Alex Jacobson... he says "sick..." and then the game crashes... I turn around to see my roommate in the SAME exact conversation... and right after he says "sick..." it crashes!! Very strange.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

I downloaded the demo and loved it. Then I discovered the files to ad the second level so I instaled it today and man there is just soooooooo much to do and so much interaction. I played it for like 4 hours and im almost done(the 2nd level). The only thing that anoys me is I filled up my hd with over 700 megs of saves. Also loading is pretty slow on my computer and when I did not know what to do runing around and seing the wonderful loading screen for another 3 minutes got anoying. I think il buy it later this week it looks soo damn awesome.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

One thing I found realy cool about the demo is that I killed the soldier that came in the statue while I was interagating the leader of the terorists and my boss talked to me about it. he said"you know that soldier we sent in the tower he turned up dead do you know what hapened to him?" "no, friendly fire?" "not so friendly ill conduct an investigation" I remember the dialogue since it was so damn kewl.

 

[Killer Ape]

Yeah, don't get too excited. They invested a lot of design time in the early levels. The later levels, meaning the bulk of the game, are much more linear, less interactive and less player-action-dictating-outcome based.

As I've said above, good game, not great, in my opinion. If you can pick it up for sub-$30 it's worth it.

 

[JellyBaby]

<< As I've said above, good game, not great, in my opinion. If you can pick it up for sub-$30 it's worth it. >>

Ape, how about for $0? My new CL Live! 5.1 has it included in the bundle. Tee hee, and Thief 2, MDK2 and UT to boot and I have none of these games! CL really knows how to sweetend a &quot;medicocre&quot; deal, eh?

btw, even Half-life started great but fizzled out toward the end. You must admist the last 1/5 of that game was uninspiring and pretty damn lame.

 

[damocles]

P3-933
256 Meg Ram
16Meg TNT2 Video Card

I played it 800@600 with lots of things off. It was still choppy at times, but good enough to be worth it. I will have a new video card soon and will play it again

 

[Killer Ape]

JB: I don't disagree about H-L. I could have been happy with about 2 Xen levels and NONE of the Industrial jumping puzzle areas. The second time I played it through I just God Moded/No Clipped my way through those parts . To me, H-L is a different type of game (straight shooter - no RPG elements) with different rules, but it still maintained its focus within those rules much more convincingly than DX, in my opinion.

The single biggest stroke of design genius, which if you read any interviews with Gabe Newell or other Valve people was intentional and subject to much debate within the design team, was to NEVER let the player leave the character or game world. We all remember the fact that it pre-loaded levels so there were no loading screens, just those elegant and seamless transitions from level to level. But, the thing many people don't realize is that you, as Gordon Freeman, never made a sound. No Quake-like &quot;Uhnn&quot; when you jumped or fell, no &quot;Arggh&quot; when shot, nothing. It was up to your imagination to decide what your character sounded like, and except for the box art, looked like. And of course the NPC interactions and scripted events were all in First person, unlike DX. I couldn't stay &quot;in character&quot; in DX to save my life. Every time there was a flip to 3rd Person and I had to listen to JC's intolerable monotone, and see what a dork I/he looked like, I got ripped totally out of the game. After about the 2nd level I really felt like I was steering a puppet around rather than playing the game.

I keep harping on System Shock 2, but they followed similar rules to H-L, except for the load screens, and that is the only other First Person game that measures-up to H-L in my opinion in immersiveness.

That's quite a gaming cornucopia they gave you .

 

[JellyBaby]

Ape,

Yeah I should wouldn't plop HL on the same shelf as Thief 1/2, System Shock 1/2 or any RPG. You make a great point about immersion in the game world. Too many titles today are &quot;ripping you out&quot;, as you say. Heavy Metal FAKK2 has cut scenes that forcibly remind you that you're a woman. Even true RPGs like Baldur's Gate are moving into the death valley of gaming: the scripted sequence. There's nothing worse than having a ton of freedom and then suddenly be forced to watch some programming take over and completely destroy your vision of the game (and in the case of BG2, you can't even skip the in-game scripted sequences -- you're forced to watch the damn things even if you've seem them before). But they do make for good back-of-the-box marketing bullets and screenshots.

I've played the Dues Ex demo. JC's third person scripted interactions didn't really bother me and I can tolerate the monotone. I'll face Dues Ex much like any good fiction: there's a story and pre-defined character elements that are &quot;read-only&quot;. btw, I enjoyed SS2 but SS1 was much better. I'm also glad the &quot;right&quot; people are doing Thief 3. Some good gaming is coming! Gives me reason to rejoice and stuff.

 

[Killer Ape]

Thief is also a gem. In that case though, I thought the cut scenes were pretty cool. I haven't played Thief II yet. My real dream is that they take the Thief III team and use it for System Shock 3, since Irrational doesn't seem to be doing it . Thief is fun, but I played it after SS2, so I was jonesing for my Assault Rifle the whole time :|.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

You people say that deus ex is slow on any machine I play it(the demo tho) at 1024x768 with some rare slowdowns and I find it playable. I like the third person scripted sequences they are cool and JC does not look so bad.

 

[Oli]

Work fine in 1024*768 in 16bits, details full (in glide)

 

[ZaijiaN]

My system essentials

PII 400
384 MB SDRAM
Win2K
SBLive Plat.

Played and beat Deus Ex at 800x600 on a V2, ran great.
I got an AIW Radeon, plays choppy at 1024x768 with high quality settings, even with the beta radeon drivers.

SS2 also plays pretty choppy at 1024x768 in Win2K. Both games ran fine before at 800x600 on V2.

I blame the young drivers.

 

[Relf Lauren]

Killer Ape: IMO Deus Ex is game of the year...


Relf Lauren

 

[glen]

<< Killer Ape: IMO Deus Ex is game of the year... >>


ditto

 

[glen]

Wow. I have been running around Hong Kong for Days. It is HUGE! This game is really cool!

 

[Killer Ape]

I'm glad everyone's enjoying it. It is a good game. I'm not flaming it by any stretch of the imagination. Warren Spector is one of the best designers ever, and I hope he makes many more games. I simply didn't enjoy it as much as other similar games I've played and found it's performance sub-par on my rig. That's all I'm saying.

 

[JellyBaby]

Haha, well I finally received the game bundle including Dues Ex. Perhaps I'll revive this thread a year from now when I finish the game to give you the definitive answer!

btw, my order of playing this bundle will be: mdk2, thief 2, dues ex, and UT if I even bother to install that one. That's why it'll take a year.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Ok I bought the game and like someone said hong kong is huge(im f*cking lost) lol this game rules

 

[JellyBaby]

Ha, currently on level 3 of mdk2! I'm playing the doctor right now trying to figure out how to combine items into something useful so I can kill things with him.

Only .9 years until I get to Dues Ex!

 

[ZackLK]

This is just a test...Sorry guys!

 

[Ferocious]

Great game.

I play it for a day and then return a week later. I'm busy right now. I'm in the middle of the Naval Shipyard level.

I got a 350P2 and a V3-2000 with 128megs. (Wish I had 256megs for this game...hehe).
I play at 800x600 so it runs smooth.

 

[Chuck]

Duron 900Mhz, Abit KT7-RAID, 160Mb (100Mhz) RAM, CL Geforce 1 (DDR), 13Gb Maxtor 5400rpm HD.

It runs 'ok' most of the time in 800x600, but chugs along in certain places. I have found that closing background programs such as Seti make a huge difference (obvious.. but I never close them down for Q3 and don't have a problem).

I think my problem may be a combination of having a GeForce 1 with a glide game, only 100Mhz RAM, and haveing a *really* slow HD.

EDIT: Ohh and I noticed a weird thing with the Unreal Engine.. Moving from 640x480 to 800x600 seems to improve the frame rate on my PC (does the same thing in UT). I might try to up it to 1024x768.

But yeah, great game...

 

[digitalman]

I just ordered it today. i have two computers. i know it will run on my desktop, but i am wondeering if it will on my laptop. (600pIII, 192mb ram, 8mb video- 8-MB ATI Rage-Mobility P AGP 125-MHz SGRAM). Anyone have any expirence running it on a laptop or a computer with simular hardware?
dm

 

[Chuck]

Hmm, well i've just tried it in 1024x768, and it's yet faster again... do you think I should risk 1600x1200?

 

[Dark4ng3l]

go for it!