Whoo, got out of my speeding ticket!!

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: toph99

Originally posted by: XZeroIIYou're stupid. You should have a toe removed for going 55 in a 40 mph zone :|

you have no idea what the circumstances were.

If it were safe to do 55mph, the speed limit would have been 55mph, not 40. Believe it or not, there is a reason that they limit the speed on certain roads.

On most roads, that reason is revenue generation by means of issuing traffic tickets. If the actual reason was safety, then speed limits would have gone up as cars became safer dontcha think?

I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety. I think speeding is one of the least harmless things you can do.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Millennium
I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety. I think speeding is one of the least harmless things you can do.

LOL! For once, Millenium, you and I are in full agreement. (except that I stand by the revenue generation argument, you might want to visit some smaller towns out West here, where tickets are all about the money).

Seriously, speeding is MUCH less a factor in accidents than failure to pay attention or drunk driving.
In fact, inattentive driving is the #1 reason for accidents. And having driving well over a million highway miles in my lifetime, I can tell you that almost all inattentive drivers share one thing in common: they drive slow.
I'm not saying that I approve of people going WAY too fast, like 100 in a 55. That's reckless. But then again most tickets aren't for 100 in a 55, they're for 43 in a 35 or 62 in a 55... hardly dangerous speeds given the right driver, vehicle, and conditions.
And brxndxn's argument regarding the differing safety of different vehicles is rock-solid. Is it really proper that an RV has the same speed limit as my WRX? Does that have anything to do with safety? Think about it.
Or how about the fact that our speed limits are generally less today than back when cars had 4-wheel drum brakes, solid axle suspensions, and no seatbelts?

 

[Thoreau]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
You're stupid. You should have a toe removed for going 55 in a 40 mph zone :|

Hah! If you think that's bad you should see Phoenix. I was doing ~125 through the tunnel on I-10 when i spotted an unmarked cop car. He flashed his lights, and siren, and looked like he was going to pull me over. Then he sped up and passed me. About 2 miles later we both pull over and he says "I didn't mean to pull you over, I just wanted you to slow down." <-- !!!! Then he let me go on my merry way. I did, however, stay within 10mph of the speed limit the rest of the way home. To say the least, speeding in Phoenix is extremely common.

Sidenote: The speed limit in that zone was 55

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: toph99

Originally posted by: XZeroII
You're stupid. You should have a toe removed for going 55 in a 40 mph zone :|

you have no idea what the circumstances were.

If it were safe to do 55mph, the speed limit would have been 55mph, not 40. Believe it or not, there is a reason that they limit the speed on certain roads.

are you truly that dense?

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Millennium


I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety.

Why do you think you have cops sitting on the side waiting to pull someone over for going 46 in a 45 zone? What reason could it be other than to generate revenue?

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: toph99

Originally posted by: XZeroII
You're stupid. You should have a toe removed for going 55 in a 40 mph zone :|

you have no idea what the circumstances were.

If it were safe to do 55mph, the speed limit would have been 55mph, not 40. Believe it or not, there is a reason that they limit the speed on certain roads.

um no. quite the contrary. the Department of Transportation is the first to admit that they do not and refuse to update speeds limits regularly. they have long web pages devoted to telling how to properly set a speed limit and equally long web pages devoted to making up excuses for not setting them that way.

in related "news" : According the NHTSA, every time the feds have raised the speed limit, fatalities per mile have dropped. in the 80's, when they raised interstates, fatalities dropped 4% in the first year alone. in the years between the 1995 freeway limit raise and 2001, fatalities per mile dropped 20%. AAA's research backs this up.

 

[AthlonXP]

interesting idea.

 

[everman]

hehe so basically drown them in paperwork they don't get paid to do?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Millennium


I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety.

Why do you think you have cops sitting on the side waiting to pull someone over for going 46 in a 45 zone? What reason could it be other than to generate revenue?

For some small towns it may be as Vic mentioned. For large municipalities and most county agencies it is NOT. Secondly, I have only heard rumors of someone getting a ticket for less than 5 over. Very rare that it happens.

 

[Busie23]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

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If it were safe to do 55mph, the speed limit would have been 55mph, not 40. Believe it or not, there is a reason that they limit the speed on certain roads.

I wish I could express how much I laugh at people like you. That is like saying, "If abortions were bad, they wouldn't be legal."

Wow.. since he is going 55mph, he is unsafe. LOL. Dumbass. I could go 70mph in my Camaro down a winding road and still be safer than a Ford Explorer going 40mph down the same road. Who the hell says it isn't safe to go over the speed limit? Since when do the people that set the speed limit know what's a safe speed for all vehicles?

Seriosly, if you're sitting in an open-top Miata, IMO, you're not safe at any speed.

Speeding shouldn't be a crime. Wreckless driving should be the only crime. Speeding can never be the cause of an accident. It is only misjudgement, malfunction, or inattentiveness.

You suck. Smelly fish. Uninformed people like you are so frustrating. Never go out of your house. That way, you are safer. In fact, don't use anything electrical because it might cause a fire. Only drink water and eat bland food to maximize your lifetime. You exist only to exist and nothing else. Shame on you.

Well said. You can't really have one speed limit posted for all cars and people of different ages and driving ability.

 

[Busie23]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Millennium


I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety.

Why do you think you have cops sitting on the side waiting to pull someone over for going 46 in a 45 zone? What reason could it be other than to generate revenue?

For some small towns it may be as Vic mentioned. For large municipalities and most county agencies it is NOT. Secondly, I have only heard rumors of someone getting a ticket for less than 5 over. Very rare that it happens.

They just had a segment on Dateline (if I remember correctly) recently about a small town here in Ohio and another one in Florida that were giving out tickets for ridiculous infractions. They eventually uncovered the whole towns board of trustees, etc were in on it so they could all have some extra dough.

And these weren't just to extreme cases, they went on to list numerous places where you should NOT ever go since they will pull you over for anything.

 

[dartworth]

Busie23...are you talking about Linndale, Ohio?

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Millennium


I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety.

Why do you think you have cops sitting on the side waiting to pull someone over for going 46 in a 45 zone? What reason could it be other than to generate revenue?

For some small towns it may be as Vic mentioned. For large municipalities and most county agencies it is NOT. Secondly, I have only heard rumors of someone getting a ticket for less than 5 over. Very rare that it happens.

I can confirm a ticket for 37 in a 35 at some po-dunk "town" of about a hundred people in West Virginia. I was in the car at the time, my mother was driving. The ticket was over $100. Its one of those little towns a state road passes through the town and the state road has a limit of 55 or 65, and then they put the town speed limit at 35 for all of about a 1/2 mile. The townies get a free pass on this, but if you have an out of county liscense plate, you may be screwed for minor things. If you have an out of state liscense plate and you were doing over 30, you're screwed.

This is a common setup in Ohio, too, with little towns having state roads pass through and the police like to bust the outsiders for revenue

EDIT: I know a relative of mine who gave a guy a 46 in a 45. He works for the Cleveland PD. Apparently he stopped the guy for crossing the center line, his BAL was just, just under DUI, and he was verbally abusive towards my cousin. My cousin is usually a laid back guy, but he had just gotten married and the guy in the car was talking some serious cr@p about his wife, which was (and still is) the easy way to piss off my cousin quickly. My cousin went and wrote him a ticket for every technicality he could think of. Then he called it in and asked a few other guys on shift what they could think of. There was an obscene number of tickets written that night...

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: jfano
Busie23...are you talking about Linndale, Ohio?

No, Lindale is teh suck, but this was a smaller, more rural town in ohio

 

[Kevin]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Millennium


I don't think it is a revenue issue, but it certainly is not fully because of safety.

Why do you think you have cops sitting on the side waiting to pull someone over for going 46 in a 45 zone? What reason could it be other than to generate revenue?

For some small towns it may be as Vic mentioned. For large municipalities and most county agencies it is NOT. Secondly, I have only heard rumors of someone getting a ticket for less than 5 over. Very rare that it happens.

They are on a ticket blitz in NYC to generate revenue. A friend of mine was pulled over for doing 45 in a 40, while people zoomed by. I got a parking ticket on Tuesday infront of school because my rear bumper was hanging over a bus stop.

I think the Highway Patrol are a special breed of people. They probably look for people with small "units" knowing they are already angry at the world. Then they give them a special morals test to see how petty or low they actually are...

 

[jlee]

To those who say traffic tickets are never used for revenue..here you go.

Waldo - a town of 1,200 - gets about 50 percent of its revenue from speeding citations, Bly said.
However, Waldo Police Chief A.W. Smith said speeding tickets only account for 26 percent of the city's revenue. He said the city issued an average of 22 tickets a day last year.

22 tickets per day..that's insane. If any of you have been through Waldo, you know how small it is..

 

[Double Trouble]

The "small town" in Ohio would be "New Rome". It's actually a small township that's pretty much right next to downtown Columbus. There are 22 'residents' of New Rome, but yet they had a police force of 19 or something like that -- to do nothing more than write tickets on a 1/2 mile portion of a road. This brought in roughly $400,000 per year in revenue for this sham town, which is controlled by a small clan of crooks. There's an active effort underway to dissolve the township altogether..... New Rome goes FAR beyond just a small town trying to make some revenue, with lots of embezzlement, theft, and other "irregularities".

Take a peek at this: New Rome

 

[Oakenfold]

So how did you do in Public Speaking Syringer?---------(he's at a college I go to but doesn't respond to PM"s, so now I'm stalking him in the open forums.)

 

[xirtam]

I think speeding is one of the least harmless things you can do.

Wouldn't "least harmless" make it the "most harmful"?

 

[LuckyTaxi]

cops = evil :disgust: