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Jerboy

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<< Take a look at the latest taxation idea here in Canada. Massive! 60% price hike on CDs? Extra $100 for each Apple iPod? Damn! >>



That's ass!

I was pissed enough about music only CD's. I bet they aren't interested in copyrights. They just want more source of tax income.
 
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joohang

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<< What's to keep them from ordering through American friends? >>


I have friends in American colleges. I order stuff through them. :) Got my iPAQ through Hot Deal.
 
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eshrai

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"The tax, called the Private Copying Tariff and backed by the Copyright Board of Canada, is intended to compensate musicians for income lost when consumers copy music onto digital storage media. "

like they aren't richa already...
 
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littlezipp

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<< "The tax, called the Private Copying Tariff and backed by the Copyright Board of Canada, is intended to compensate musicians for income lost when consumers copy music onto digital storage media. "

like they aren't richa already... >>

I thought that Canada was just a part of the US. :) Just kidding
 
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Willoughbyva

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If Canada is going to collect this tax then it must mean that they support or are responsiable monitarily when people copy music?

It would make sense that since they are taxing people for something then the people should have the right to do it.

 
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Mookow

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Since I'm not a Canuck, can someone across the border tell me how likely this is to pass? It would set a bad precedent for us in the States...
 
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Czar

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we got something like that here in Iceland about a year ago, but that was a fixed price and not a percentage. very very anoying expecialy if you are buying blank cd's since they are so cheap and then they almost doubled in cost. But doesnt matter, prices went down and cd's are now cheaper then they were back then.

The best about this law in a twisted law like way is that now it is sortof legal for me to copy music cd's because I have already pay'd the fine with this tax.
 
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Mookow

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<< The best about this law in a twisted law like way is that now it is sortof legal for me to copy music cd's because I have already pay'd the fine with this tax. >>



That was my other question... since you have paid the musicians, shouldnt you get some form of right to have the songs? If you do obey the law, then you're getting shafted (ie you're paying, but not taking the music). Or, you can pay and get something for it...
 
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b0mbrman

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<< "The tax, called the Private Copying Tariff and backed by the Copyright Board of Canada, is intended to compensate musicians for income lost when consumers copy music onto digital storage media. "
like they aren't richa already... >>


There's *lots* of poor musicians.
 
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Jerboy

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A chemical by the name dichlorodifluoromethane is heavily taxed on reclaimed shipments and virgin(have not been used at all after it was synthesized) shipments are absolutely forbidden in the United States. This stuff used to run a few dollars per pound when it was still freely available. Now it goes for $50 or so a pound and you must have a certification to buy it. There is alot of demand for this chemical among people without certifications and shady businesses that don't want to pay $50 a pound. Needless to say, there is a huge gray market for it. People have been arrested by coast guards by Florida coast for illegally importing it.

Next would be illegal smuggling of blank CD-R media from United States to Canada in large quantity.


illegal refrigerant smuggling

It's just a matter of time before same kind of article starts floating around with words "environment" and "clean air" replaced with "economy" and "copyright" respectively.

 
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b0mbrman

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<< It sounds to me like an excuse to collect more taxes. >>


Well...it'll probably discourage 1 or 2 guys in all of Canada from copying so much music...
 
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Mookow

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<< A chemical by the name dichlorodifluoromethane is heavily taxed on reclaimed shipments and virgin(have not been used at all after it was synthesized) shipments are absolutely forbidden in the United States. This stuff used to run a few dollars per pound when it was still freely available. Now it goes for $50 or so a pound and you must have a certification to buy it. There is alot of demand for this chemical among people without certifications and shady businesses that don't want to pay $50 a pound. Needless to say, there is a huge gray market for it. People have been arrested by coast guards by Florida coast for illegally importing it.

Next would be illegal smuggling of blank CD-R media from United States to Canada in large quantity.


illegal refrigerant smuggling

It's just a matter of time before same kind of article starts floating around with words "environment" and "clean air" replaced with "economy" and "copyright" respectively. >>



So next time I need some quick cash next year, I could just take a little trip to Canada with a trunk full of CD-Rs...
 
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Jerboy

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<< So next time I need some quick cash next year, I could just take a little trip to Canada with a trunk full of CD-Rs... >>



Perhaps that will be the time you lose gobs of cash as customs inspector confiscates all of your CD-R's...
 
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Mookow

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<< So next time I need some quick cash next year, I could just take a little trip to Canada with a trunk full of CD-Rs... >>



Perhaps that will be the time you lose gobs of cash as customs inspector confiscates all of your CD-R's... >>



All business investments have a certain amount of risk involved. Unless you are the government, then you can print your own money AND take money from others. Its a wonder how we ever had a US government without a surplus... oh, wait, they spend it like its not their money...
 
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Kadarin

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<< "The tax, called the Private Copying Tariff and backed by the Copyright Board of Canada, is intended to compensate musicians for income lost when consumers copy music onto digital storage media. "

like they aren't richa already... >>



...and anyone who believes that any *artists* will get any of the money from this, please stand up..

If they enact something like this, I would like the RIAA to *explicitly* state that copying and filesharing/trading is perfectly legal, and to have the RIAA and all member record labels to stop attempting to copy-protect CDs. Think that'll ever happen?
 
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yakko

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<< The proposed tax would be paid by manufacturers and importers of digital media to the Canadian Private Copying Collective (CPCC). The CPCC would then distribute the funds collected (minus administration fees) to musicians who hold copyrights on music in Canada. >>

And once those administration fees are minused I know some people at the CPC are going to be rich.
 
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b0mbrman

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<< time to stock up on blank cd's >>


Good idea ;). Ebay probably wouldn't stop you from sending a few across the border :)

Bah...in a few years time, the price of a blank CD + tax will be less than just the CD is today.
 
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