Who would win

[RichardE]

I'm going for Deathstar. They can use weapons which are based on kenetic enegery. Since Borg can only adapt to frequency weapons Kenetic weapons would seem to be able to decimate them.

(Plus the Borg were killed by Picard with bullets and always die from Knife wounds (from Worf))

 

[FoBoT]

resistance is futile

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Death Star has Darth Vader. End of story.

 

[Mermaidman]

This one carries Hell Fighters--It will pwnz0r!

 

[Captante]

The Borg were disposed of entirely too easily by the Federation & even if they lost a few ships would eventually "assimilate" the Empire, despite the force.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

while the deathstar has the borg outgunned at every angle the borg have 2 things that make them able to win. shield draing weapons, and transporters. drain shield, then transport everyone on board the deathstar into space.

 

[Noema]

Borg ship. Let's not forget the Deathstar had fatal design flaws which would have been exploited by the Borg. Plus we don't know how the borg would have reacted to the Kinetic weapons. Perhaps they would have found a way to adapt to those too?

I remember reading an interview with Bannon Braga saying that they tried to use the Borg as seldom as possible in TNG because they were effectively TOO powerful, and it was hard for the writers to come up with convincing ways of defeating them. That's why you'd only see the borg once or twice tops per season.

(God I feel so geeky)

 

[ultimatebob]

Geez, didn't we just have one of these silly Star Wars vs. Star Trek debates? Oh well, I'll join in anyway...

(Que Comic Book Guy voice)

I think that the Death Star could probably destroy a Borg cube in a single shot. If there were multiple cubes, however, I'd give it to the Borg since they'd probably adapt by the third shot.

You didn't say if Darth Vader was around, though. If you got him onto one of those Borg Cubes, he could do some really wicked damage. I'm not sure if the Borg could adapt to force lightning or a light saber, since they never really fought any weapons like that in Star Trek.

 

[XZeroII]

As I've said before, both are just make-believe. Fake. So the question just becomes: Who's penis is bigger, Roddenberry's or Lucas'?

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob


You didn't say if Darth Vader was around, though. If you got him onto one of those Borg Cubes, he could do some really wicked damage. I'm not sure if the Borg could adapt to force lightning or a light saber, since they never really fought any weapons like that in Star Trek.

Think, however, of an assimilated Jedi. He would be a god to nerds and geeks alike.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: ultimatebob


You didn't say if Darth Vader was around, though. If you got him onto one of those Borg Cubes, he could do some really wicked damage. I'm not sure if the Borg could adapt to force lightning or a light saber, since they never really fought any weapons like that in Star Trek.

Think, however, of an assimilated Jedi. He would be a god to nerds and geeks alike.

If a Borg assimilated a Jedi, wouldn't they all eventually become Jedi's?

Jedi Borg... You're going to have to invent a whole new SciFi franchise to beat those badasses

 

[0roo0roo]

startrek ships seem to be immune to kenetic weapons. they fly so fast subwarp that tiny space particles should be very dangerous but they apparently aren't.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
startrek ships seem to be immune to kenetic weapons. they fly so fast subwarp that tiny space particles should be very dangerous but they apparently aren't.

I always thought the "delfector" shields were used for the space particles in ST.

Also, didn't the enterprise have a projectile penetrate the hall once? I think it was an alien torpedo, forget exactly though.

 

[LookingGlass]

OMG, this is a geek question if ever I saw one. LOL.

 

[0roo0roo]

heh deflector shields. and yea an unexploded torpedo or one with an intruder went through a hull in atleast one eps. course u can always explain it by saying torpedos obviously have anti deflector shield thingies. meh, whatevers convenient to tell the story

 

[saymyname]

nerd talk!

 

[neutralizer]

What about multiple Cylon basestars?

 

[Aftermath]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
startrek ships seem to be immune to kenetic weapons. they fly so fast subwarp that tiny space particles should be very dangerous but they apparently aren't.

I always thought the "delfector" shields were used for the space particles in ST.

Also, didn't the enterprise have a projectile penetrate the hall once? I think it was an alien torpedo, forget exactly though.

Both on Voyager. Voyager lost their deflector shields, quickly began being eroded by space dust.

In another episode, an undetonated torpedo was lodged in the hull.

Sci-Fi geek answer: The Borg would win because they could just adapt to the shields of the Death Star before the Imperials knew they were a threat, then transport over a team of drones to begin assimilating the crew. Assuming no Vader (who wouldn't be able to stop them anyway. Just escape, at best.) they would probably have the entire station under their control within days. After another few months spent assimilating it into the Death Cube, they would go about assimilating both the Star Trek and Star Wars universes.

Geek answer: Star Wars uses overblown completely imaginary technology that even the 29th century Star Trek universe would scoff at because it's so impossible. A single shielded TIE Advanced (or whatever starfighter) could wipe out a Borg cube in a single shot. No contest.

But I like this idea of Borg Jedi. I'd like to see some Borg Wookiee units in there too. "Rawrrrarar Raaawr" [Resistance is Futile!]

 

[MillionaireNextDoor]

Q could destroy both of them.

 

[newnameman]

Originally posted by: Aftermath
A single shielded TIE Advanced (or whatever starfighter) could wipe out a Borg cube in a single shot. No contest.

QFT

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
Q could destroy both of them.

Ya, Q could come up with a way to blow up anything. Why isn't he in the OP?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
startrek ships seem to be immune to kenetic weapons. they fly so fast subwarp that tiny space particles should be very dangerous but they apparently aren't.

I always thought the "delfector" shields were used for the space particles in ST.

Also, didn't the enterprise have a projectile penetrate the hall once? I think it was an alien torpedo, forget exactly though.

Correct, the navigational deflectors move particles out of the ships path when traveling at sublight speeds.

There were several instances throughout ST in which projectile weapons penetrated hulls and got stuck. A krenim temporal torpedo got stuck in Voyager's hull, for example.

Back to the original question. The Empire still uses directed energy weapons, lasers and so forth. Given the simplicity of such weapons, the Borg would have adapted to them using their scanning devices. This would have rendered all the Imperial weapons useless. Given the lack of energy shields in SW, the Borg would have no trouble beaming over to any Imperial vessel. From the species that the Borg have assimilated before, we know that the Imperials technology would be considered 'worthy' of assimilation. Since the Imperial handheld blasters would be even less effective than the larger ship mounted variants, a single Borg drone would likely be enough to assimilate the entire Death Star with time. The Borg like things done quickly and efficiently, so they'd beam drones to all critical sections of the Death Star. As more Imperials were assimilated themselves, assimilation of the entire vessel would be completed quite quickly.

As with all SW vs ST combat debates, ST always wins because the technology in SW is so completely unfeasible. All the technology in ST is based off current scientific/phsyics theories.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

As with all SW vs ST combat debates, ST always wins because the technology in SW is so completely unfeasible. All the technology in ST is based off current scientific/phsyics theories.

Alright, I'm not near a big enough nerd to understand all that y'all are jabbering about, but I've got to say this:

How the hell does that argument work? One work of *fiction* is better than the other work of *fiction* because it's closer to non-fiction? Is it just me, or are you an eejit?

 

[meltdown75]

Immediately I think of the mental state of the Empire's troops. A lot of them were buffoons, just regular guys in stormtrooper outfits.

I think the Borg would overrun them. I am already picturing Vader with a Borg implant sticking out of the side of his head. The Emperor... well, they would just keep his head kinda like the Borg Queen.

As for the battle between the Death Star and the Borg ship, it really wouldn't matter because in the grand scheme of things, the Borg would assimilate and conquer anyway.

 

[Horus]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: ultimatebob


You didn't say if Darth Vader was around, though. If you got him onto one of those Borg Cubes, he could do some really wicked damage. I'm not sure if the Borg could adapt to force lightning or a light saber, since they never really fought any weapons like that in Star Trek.

Think, however, of an assimilated Jedi. He would be a god to nerds and geeks alike.

If a Borg assimilated a Jedi, wouldn't they all eventually become Jedi's?

Jedi Borg... You're going to have to invent a whole new SciFi franchise to beat those badasses

Badass are the Ori?