Looks like McCain did a lot better than the previous two debates. What do you guys think? Please post any polls in this
Who won the final debate?
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newnameman
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Obama did a fantastic job and I gotta say that there were parts where McCain did a decent job presenting his argument, but Obama also had more high light moments. However, I feel that the vast majority of support for McCain's arguments will be felt by those who were already planning on voting for him. Make no mistake. McCain will gain some support from this debate, but the amount will not be that large and I believe that after comparing the amount of additional support that Obama will acquire from the debate we will find that by the time most people are actually voting it will be a draw in that additional support.
The debate was close to a tie. Giving a couple weeks from today will show the changes to be minimal when it comes to the actual voting which is all that matters now. Obama has won this election.
The debate was close to a tie. Giving a couple weeks from today will show the changes to be minimal when it comes to the actual voting which is all that matters now. Obama has won this election.
retrospooty
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McCain did better, than the first two, but didnt win, and didnt do anything to change independants minds. Again he came of as angry and condesending.
Early opinion polls are in on several networks and Obama wins by a healthy margin... Wins by a HUGE margin on likeability and leadership. WooHoo!!!
Early opinion polls are in on several networks and Obama wins by a healthy margin... Wins by a HUGE margin on likeability and leadership. WooHoo!!!
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shira
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McCain came across as irritable, evasive, and stuck on stale slogans to me. He would get all gleeful and bright eyed when he thought he had a zinger for Obama, which he almost never did. And he would frequently repeat something he'd said earlier - usually rebutted by Obama - as if he'd never heard Obama's response.
One of the most disgusting sequences was when McCain first decried the negative tone of the overall Presidential campaign, and then in the next sentence he mentioned the "Ayers connection", saying in this mysterious tone of voice that "we need to find out all the facts."
Obama made an elegant rebuttal to that attack. And then there was McCane repeating almost word for word the same vague "we need to get all the facts" guilt-by-association smear.
McCain also mentioned "across the board" axing of the federal budget as his economic plan, yet on several occasions he spoke about all the new programs he wanted to start.
McCain did NOT do himself any good tonight.
One of the most disgusting sequences was when McCain first decried the negative tone of the overall Presidential campaign, and then in the next sentence he mentioned the "Ayers connection", saying in this mysterious tone of voice that "we need to find out all the facts."
Obama made an elegant rebuttal to that attack. And then there was McCane repeating almost word for word the same vague "we need to get all the facts" guilt-by-association smear.
McCain also mentioned "across the board" axing of the federal budget as his economic plan, yet on several occasions he spoke about all the new programs he wanted to start.
McCain did NOT do himself any good tonight.
McCain had his strongest debate but towards the end he obviously was out of gas, a lot of times Obama would make a point and then McCain would pull a Palin and repeat a few talking points which the two had already discussed earlier. Obama would then ignore those attacks because he already addressed them and launch into some more points.
With that said if Palin/Biden was called a draw by the media then this certainly will be also. I am an Obama supporter so probably biased here but it seemed to me that Obama pulled a Reagan in this by looking Presidential and not fucking up. In that way he is the winner.
With that said if Palin/Biden was called a draw by the media then this certainly will be also. I am an Obama supporter so probably biased here but it seemed to me that Obama pulled a Reagan in this by looking Presidential and not fucking up. In that way he is the winner.
retrospooty
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I noticed that... Its as if he wasnt listening (and thus wasnt debating) he was more reciting reheared lines.
Blackjack200
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I noticed this too. How are you going to pay for school vouchers with a spending freeze John? :roll:
Haha.. hopefully this gets some traction. Check out the reaction shot of McCain, scroll down a little for the video: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/
He seems genuinely surprised.
He seems genuinely surprised.
Obama could have explicitly presented a well thought out plan to convert the US economy to communism and he would have still beat McCain.
retrospooty
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True... Someone forgot to coach McCain on the first rule of debates... DONT APPEAR SHIFTY EYED. LOL
eits
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obama's favorability has gone up each time in every debate.
the opposite happened with mccain. more and more people dislike him everytime he debates.
it's decided that mccain obviously lost this (and every past) debate.
the opposite happened with mccain. more and more people dislike him everytime he debates.
it's decided that mccain obviously lost this (and every past) debate.
Born2bwire
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LOL
McCain thought "Zero?! I may have to start a small business!" :laugh:
But in the end it doesn't matter, each of these prudes are more government.
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Or, even better, Obama enters stage left with a t-shirt reading "Fuck the Police" and a ho in each arm. He settles down to a nice big plate of fried chicken and watermelon before trying to sell Bob Schieffer a vile of crack. He refuses to answer the first question, instead announcing that he has decided to replace Joe Biden on the ticket with Bill Ayers. Before the shock has registered, Bill Ayers stolls onto the stage and gives Barak Obama a terrorist fist bump and reveals that he has funneled most of Obama's campaign money to buy a shit load of gold plated Cadillacs.
The press doesn't care because they hate America, so they say Obama "won" the debate. The American people vote him in because they're too stupid to learn anything except what the "MSM" tells them.
I feel you JS, I really do.
fleshconsumed
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Haha, I noticed that while watching the debates. McCain's look on his face was priceless. What I didn't notice when I watched debates was that McCain repeated "zero?" that made it absolutely hilarious.
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