Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
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Why is it no one can define "Victory"? Could it be that a military victory is not possible? This is only further proof that the Bush administration's commitment to "Democracy" and "Self Determination" is a fraud.
Victory has been defined many times, and by different parties (Congress has provided a more detailed benchmark).
Simply stated, victory is an Iraq that is self sufficient. It can defend itself and it's borders. An Iraq with a manageable level of internal sectarian violence. An Iraq with a functioning government.
I don't think it's there yet. I don't believe anybody else does either. But I do think it possible (not certain, but possible).
I suspect that there are potentialy important developments occurring now. When might we know? I'm guessing by election time. Both of ours are in Nov IIRC.
In any case, we may be moving out by year-end. Depends who wins in their election. AFAIK, we can't stay too much longer unless their parliment specifically requests it.
Fern