Who will play in the BCS title match up?

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iwantanewcomputer

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Originally posted by: mpitts
If UM and OSU play a close game on the 18th, don't be surprised if you see a rematch. It is dependant on what the human polls drop the loser to. If I were an Ohio State fan (god forbid), I know I would be pretty pissed about dropping far if my only loss was a close game to the #1 team in the country.

Michigan is projected to have the 4th toughest schedule in the nation at seasons end. OSU the 11th. Only USC will have played a tougher schedule and I honestly don't see them winning all four games against Oregon, Cal, ND and UCLA. The computer polls tend to give more credence to teams with a highly rated SOS. That is why Michigan is ranked #1 in all but one computer poll.


ask texas how they feel about that, although they have been losing bad to mediocre teams, osu and mich have only been in 1 close came each. i think osu or mich would need to loose by 2 or less to relplay
 

spidey07

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Seeing how well OSU and michigan are playing the entire season it's hard to come up with anything other than them.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
FFS people I will bet you $100 each that Rutgers does not play in the BCS title game.

There is no way.

No one will take that...

Literally every other 1 loss team would have to lose...which is impossible with OSU and Michigan both being undefeated and only having one game left against each other

EDIT: I just noticed...how did 7 people actually vote for Rutgers??? :confused:

It might actually be a decent bet if Rutgers had already played and beaten WVU @ WVU, but there are too many outs, and this is the biggest of them.
 

classy

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If Rutgers runs the table with a win against WVA I think they'll play the winner of the OSU/MICHIGAN game.
 

her209

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I think Boise State deserves a shot at the NC also if they run the table.
 

Midlander

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It really ought to be a rematch of Michigan and OSU, but it won't be.

Think about what would happen if the winner of the game next week would end up losing the championship game. At that point, they would have split--would there really be a consensus national champion?

Nope. It will be the winner of next week's game against some other team that is really number 3.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Midlander
It really ought to be a rematch of Michigan and OSU, but it won't be.

Think about what would happen if the winner of the game next week would end up losing the championship game. At that point, they would have split--would there really be a consensus national champion?

Nope. It will be the winner of next week's game against some other team that is really number 3.
And what if the winner of the tOSU/Michigan loses in teh Championship game and the loser of the tOSU/Michigan clobbers their opponent? :Q
 

LS20

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you seem to have left Arkansas out of the poll. usc and nd are overrated.. rutgers got lucky...florida squeaks...darren mcfadden for heisman!
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: LS20
you seem to have left Arkansas out of the poll. usc and nd are overrated.. rutgers got lucky...florida squeaks...darren mcfadden for heisman!

how is sc overrated, they beat a team that is going to the big 12 championship game and another team that is probably going to the sec championship game , if they win out they would have had the toughest schedule in the nation. Sure they lost to an unranked orgeon state but only by 2 points (arkansas lost big and nd lost big too), florida on the other hand had a close loss to auburn, so if both sc and florida win out its going to be interesting
 

Midlander

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Midlander
It really ought to be a rematch of Michigan and OSU, but it won't be.

Think about what would happen if the winner of the game next week would end up losing the championship game. At that point, they would have split--would there really be a consensus national champion?

Nope. It will be the winner of next week's game against some other team that is really number 3.
And what if the winner of the tOSU/Michigan loses in teh Championship game and the loser of the tOSU/Michigan clobbers their opponent? :Q

The world, as we know it, will cease to exist. :beer:
 

her209

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: LS20
you seem to have left Arkansas out of the poll. usc and nd are overrated.. rutgers got lucky...florida squeaks...darren mcfadden for heisman!
how is sc overrated, they beat a team that is going to the big 12 championship game and another team that is probably going to the sec championship game , if they win out they would have had the toughest schedule in the nation. Sure they lost to an unranked orgeon state but only by 2 points (arkansas lost big and nd lost big too), florida on the other hand had a close loss to auburn, so if both sc and florida win out its going to be interesting
Oregon St. was ranked #24 in the BCS going into this weekend. Not sure where they will end up after losing to UCLA.
 

her209

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The new AP Poll is out:
1. Ohio State (64) 11-0 1,624
2. Michigan (1) 11-0 1,561
3. Florida 9-1 1,436
4. USC 8-1 1,433
5. Arkansas 9-1 1,331
6. Notre Dame 9-1 1,302
7. Rutgers 9-0 1,212
8. West Virginia 8-1 1,075
9. LSU 8-2 1,074
10. Louisville 8-1 1,028
11. Texas 9-2 965
12. Wisconsin 10-1 930
13. Boise State 10-0 805
14. Wake Forest 9-1 777
15. Auburn 9-2 751
16. Oklahoma 8-2 746
17. California 8-2 595
18. Georgia Tech 8-2 563
19. Virginia Tech 8-2 413
20. Boston College 8-2 350
21. Maryland 8-2 309
22. Tennessee 7-3 276
23. Brigham Young 8-2 216
24. Nebraska 8-3 197
25. Clemson 8-3 57
 

czech09

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Lots of Gator Haters here...and too many USC "fanboys"...

If Florida wins out (and that's a big IF considering the way they've been playing lately), there's no question they're in (unless the OSU-UM game comes down to the last second and a win by 1pt or something). Also as for the people claiming it's just OSU and UM and then everyone else, how many ranked teams (when they played them) has UM beaten? The answer is 1 in Notre Dame. How many has UF beaten? Mmm...Alabama, LSU, Tennessee. Not to mention they'll have one more coming up in the SEC title game. USC for that matter has beaten whom? One team this past week in Oregon...they do have an overated Notre Dame team (which also hasn't beaten anyone) and an underachieving California team on left on their schedule.

We'll see when the new BCS poll comes out however Florida should almost certainly be #3 by quite a margin considering they were doing pretty well in the computer rankings (#4) last week I believe however their problem for the past few weeks was the AP rating and now that Louisville, Texas, Auburn are out they gained some points there. We'll see where USC comes out but I would think at least 0.2-0.3 below Florida.



 

czech09

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: LS20
you seem to have left Arkansas out of the poll. usc and nd are overrated.. rutgers got lucky...florida squeaks...darren mcfadden for heisman!

how is sc overrated, they beat a team that is going to the big 12 championship game and another team that is probably going to the sec championship game , if they win out they would have had the toughest schedule in the nation. Sure they lost to an unranked orgeon state but only by 2 points (arkansas lost big and nd lost big too), florida on the other hand had a close loss to auburn, so if both sc and florida win out its going to be interesting

Lmao USC having the toughest schedule in the nation? Are you serious hahahahahahahahaha wow...Have you checked anything online as to the "Strength of Schedule"? If and only if you actually did you'd see the letters spelling out F-L-O-R-I-D-A under #1 in that category...

 

her209

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Originally posted by: czech09
USC for that matter has beaten whom? One team this past week in Oregon...they do have an overated Notre Dame team (which also hasn't beaten anyone) and an underachieving California team on left on their schedule.
Did you forget Arkansas and Nebraska? Granted Nebraska isn't ranked anymore (they were at the time) and Arkansas is now ranked (they weren't at the time).
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Midlander
It really ought to be a rematch of Michigan and OSU, but it won't be.

Think about what would happen if the winner of the game next week would end up losing the championship game. At that point, they would have split--would there really be a consensus national champion?

Nope. It will be the winner of next week's game against some other team that is really number 3.
And what if the winner of the tOSU/Michigan loses in teh Championship game and the loser of the tOSU/Michigan clobbers their opponent? :Q

Split National Title.
 

czech09

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Midlander
It really ought to be a rematch of Michigan and OSU, but it won't be.

Think about what would happen if the winner of the game next week would end up losing the championship game. At that point, they would have split--would there really be a consensus national champion?

Nope. It will be the winner of next week's game against some other team that is really number 3.
And what if the winner of the tOSU/Michigan loses in teh Championship game and the loser of the tOSU/Michigan clobbers their opponent? :Q

Split National Title.

Yeah :(...We need a playoff system. A four team one would be sufficient and they could still keep it as bowl type deal (such as the semifinals could be two of the bigger BCS bowls and then the title game could be its own thing or something like that). That way the University Presidents could make their $$$ and we wouldn't be having this many arguments. I'm an optimist when it comes to this and I think it may happen within the next 3-4 years that we may see this kind of system come into effect. It'd a great for the everyone involved.

Btw her209 you get one more (Arkansas doesn't count as I said at the time they played them; not to mention UF will most likely be playing Arkansas as well come Dec. 2nd).
 

her209

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Originally posted by: czech09
Btw her209 you get one more (Arkansas doesn't count as I said at the time they played them; not to mention UF will most likely be playing Arkansas as well come Dec. 2nd).
Care to explain why they don't count?
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: czech09
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: LS20
you seem to have left Arkansas out of the poll. usc and nd are overrated.. rutgers got lucky...florida squeaks...darren mcfadden for heisman!

how is sc overrated, they beat a team that is going to the big 12 championship game and another team that is probably going to the sec championship game , if they win out they would have had the toughest schedule in the nation. Sure they lost to an unranked orgeon state but only by 2 points (arkansas lost big and nd lost big too), florida on the other hand had a close loss to auburn, so if both sc and florida win out its going to be interesting

Lmao USC having the toughest schedule in the nation? Are you serious hahahahahahahahaha wow...Have you checked anything online as to the "Strength of Schedule"? If and only if you actually did you'd see the letters spelling out F-L-O-R-I-D-A under #1 in that category...

Care to show me which computer has florida having the toughest schedule

Sagarin (1 of the bcs computers) has stanford having the toughest schedule with usc #2

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm
 

Syringer

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I think the next change will be perfect, where the bowl series games are played, and then from there you have a championship game. It gives all the qualifying teams a chance to prove themselves against a real worthy opponent, while only adding one additional game to the season.
 

drum

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USC, Arkansas, and Florida would all have to lose again for Rutgers to get into the NC game.

Being a Michigan fan, I would hate to see a rematch regardless of the outcome of the game this week.
 

YBS1

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Just like I hinted at in my first post, Florida got jumped by USC. A lot of people like to predict based on how "they think it should be" rather than how it actually is. Of the five teams I listed in my first post, Florida has the least control of it's own destiny. They need Cal to beat USC, otherwise USC wins out and goes or ND beats USC, jumps both of them and goes. The bulk of Florida's competition took a hit this week (The SEC sunk, thus making Florida look weaker too). Otherwise maybe Arkansas has an outside shot but it would take a good swing in the human element of the polls. Everyone behind Arkansas has too much ground to make up, and that includes undefeated Rutgers.
 

jlbenedict

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If Ohio St. barely beats Michigan, then I'm sure it will be Ohio St. / Michigan in the BCS title game.

Other way around; Michigan barely beats Ohio St., then those two swap spots , and still represent the title game matchup.

On the other hand, if Ohio St. trounces Michigan, then USC (If they win out); Michigan would drop lower than #2

Other way around as well; If Michigan trounces Ohio St., then Ohio St. falls lower than #2, allowing the next best 1-loss team in the title game (USC).

Arkansas would have to win out, to even come close to being considered, but they did get thumped by USC. So, if USC wins out, they should get the shot.

Florida nearly got a scare against South Carolina; a lucky blocked extra point and field goal seemed to be the difference maker. I believe this is the year Arkansas finally beats Florida and wins the overall SEC Championship.

 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: czech09
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: LS20
you seem to have left Arkansas out of the poll. usc and nd are overrated.. rutgers got lucky...florida squeaks...darren mcfadden for heisman!

how is sc overrated, they beat a team that is going to the big 12 championship game and another team that is probably going to the sec championship game , if they win out they would have had the toughest schedule in the nation. Sure they lost to an unranked orgeon state but only by 2 points (arkansas lost big and nd lost big too), florida on the other hand had a close loss to auburn, so if both sc and florida win out its going to be interesting

Lmao USC having the toughest schedule in the nation? Are you serious hahahahahahahahaha wow...Have you checked anything online as to the "Strength of Schedule"? If and only if you actually did you'd see the letters spelling out F-L-O-R-I-D-A under #1 in that category...

Care to show me which computer has florida having the toughest schedule

Sagarin (1 of the bcs computers) has stanford having the toughest schedule with usc #2

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm

Currently, Florida has the 2nd toughest schedule to this point. USC has the 6th. Project it against all known opponents and USC will wind up with the toughest strength of schedule, while Florida will wind up with the 20th. Florida's ranking will go up a little bit because of the SEC championship game, but it won't surpass USC.