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Anonemous

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May 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Why do you feel the need to post things that happen in your life to complete strangers?

Maybe that's why girls like assholes, yours obviouly isn't one and you've not only gotten into a fight about it, you've made it public affair on a board that he visits. I applaud your tact.

uh coming from a lifer... I always thought it was the norm for people to talk about their lives or thoughts in OT...
 

bradruth

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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It's commendable that he'd want to help someone, but this lady was mentally unstable and apparently not a very nice person. Regardless, I don't see any situation where I would leave my SO alone in a restaurant like that.

It's one thing to help people. It's another thing to help people who don't deserve it while casting your SO aside.
 

imported_Tomato

Diamond Member
Sep 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Seriously, you should know better.

That's what I kept saying. He insisted, "Nothing happened, everything was fine, she was a harmless 65-year-old woman"... but still, you never know. I was concerned about his safety too, and when he came back he brushed it off as "being overly influenced by our culture of fear".

I was actually referring to the lack of cliff notes. ;)

Based on your story alone, it was very rude for him to leave you at the restaurant alone. However, if you were being obnoxious and stubborn about not going, then you should've just gone with him.

Doh! :p Fixed. :)

To be fair, he didn't rush off and leave me, I told him I felt uncomfortable and that I was going to stay at the restaurant. I also said I would feel better about things if he didn't go, but he did choose to do so.

1) That's much less dramatic than your OP made things out to be

2) You still should've gone with him.

Glad we of ATOT could help.

Fixed the OP, hopefully that helps make things more fair. I chose not to go with him because I felt really uncomfortable around the woman. I didn't want to be around a racist, and wanted to avoid the slim possibility she may have had a weapon of some sort.

I'm glad all of you were able to help too, I appreciate the different opinions and input.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Tough situation, but she is someone he doesn't know, and he knows you enough to be your FIANCE. Therefore he should have respected your wishes. I'd be mad, but I wouldn't kill him and bury in the La Brea tarpits or anything. I understand the feeling of helping someone, but safety certainly precludes someone from doing something that could result in possible harm, especially after you asking him not to. I'd pout for a day or two and then let it go -- if I were a female, which I'm mostly not, except at night when I dress up.
 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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So what happened to the homeless lady? I know... it says he took her to the airport... but what really happened to her?
 
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I think it was wrong of him for a couple of reason, not wrong for what he did, but how he did it

first I find the whole thing odd, if the manager or waitress told him she does this, y would he still do it? but cant fault him for being too nice i guess

then he should not have done it in Your car...i think thats a big part of it, if it was his car and he wanted to help someone thats fine, but if you dont want someone in your car, that should be the end of it

and he should hav eanswered his cell phone, did he give you any reason why he didnt?


the act wasnt wrong, but leaving u behind to help a stranger that was known to have problems and assualt people (at least verbally) for no reason is odd, especially since there was a cab coming...it wasnt like she was in any danger by being there and she will probably just end up back there again.


 

sniperruff

Lifer
Apr 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: her209
So what happened to the homeless lady? I know... it says he took her to the airport... but what really happened to her?

my guess is she made a scene there and begged someone to take her to a certain restaurant.
 

psiu

Golden Member
Oct 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: brigden
Personally, I think your fiancee did the wrong thing, regardless of whether he thought she deserved help. He should have apologized profusely.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Mandos
Theres nothing to be pissed about. Your fiance is a person who wants to try and be a good citizen, and you didnt want to. You arent bad because you wanted to be safe. He isnt bad because he wanted to help someone other than himself. No faults here. Dont whine about this, you chose him FOR THIS REASON, hopefully. He seems like a standup kinda guy
Agreed, and well put.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: Tremulant
I would've left the homeless person alone.

My SO is much more important than a homeless, mentally unstable stranger.

couldn't agree more. That was pretty disrespectful of tomato's feelings and wishes and property.

We all make choices, he made his in light of how much it would disrespect tomato.
 

sonambulo

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Feb 22, 2004
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how is there any debate in this? taking a homeless old lady out into the woods, raping and killing her is always the right thing to do. how dare you criticize him?
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Good intentions, absolutely absymal implementation. What kind of dolt leaves his fiancee at a restaurant alone and doesn't answer his cell phone after she's obviously nervous about the situation?

I think the situation would have been well served if, when he came back, you took the keys and left him at the restaurant to find his own way home. Assholeish behaviour with good intentions = assholeish behaviour.
 

kranky

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Tomato

1. My fiance blatantly disrespected me by leaving when I had asked him to please not leave... especially with a racist.
You might not have liked it, but it's a stretch to call it "blatant disrespect" since you opted to stay. I think the racist thing is irrelevant to the situation.

2. My fiance would have put me in danger had I gotten into the car as well (if the woman was mentally unstable, she could have had a knife, a gun, whatever... I was erring on the side of caution).
You felt you would be in danger, he felt differently. Just a difference of opinion.

3. My fiance left me for almost half an hour, disappeard to god knows where, didn't pick up his cell phone and left me in the restaurant crying to a waitress.
I realize you were unhappy, but again you chose to stay. He should have answered his cell phone, though, unless he felt you were going to be chewing him out on the phone.

I don't see any disrespect here. I may not have chosen to do what he did, but he chose to do it, you knew what he was doing, and you chose not to go along. He should have told you where he was going and should have answered his cell (again, unless he had reason to believe you would have argued with him on the phone). I would chalk it up to a difference of opinion and let it go.
 

Sassy

Senior member
Aug 24, 2004
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Both your SO and you were wrong. :)
This woman should have taken the cab. Your argument was valid but not heard. Like you, I would have been afraid and angry. Unlike you, I would have gotten into the car with my SO. There is some truth in ?safety in numbers.? My fear and anger at his decision during that time would have been secondary to his safety.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: her209
So what happened to the homeless lady? I know... it says he took her to the airport... but what really happened to her?

precisely what i was thinking... too much law & order i guess :|