Who voted and why
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Damn straight! Be White or be wrong, eh?Originally posted by: ntdz
and obviously, the party of America
PARTY ON!
MidasKnight
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ughh... why this silly innocent position as of late... oh my god... america has different political ideologies...
liberals bitch about repubs getting the christian vote... conservs bitch about the liberal minority vote...
POLITICS HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS FOR FREAKIN EVER....
just because someone points it out doesn t mean you have to whine about it... we get it ... we are the minority ... conservatives are the majority... your not going to prove that the divide in the country is our fault just because you feel we are the lesser position...
Jeff7
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Interesting correlations there.
Kerry wins on Economy, Iraq, Health care, and Education.
"Will bring about needed change" - Kerry 95%, Bush 5%
"Clear stand on issues" - Kerry 21%, Bush 78%.
I owe the latter to Bush's catch phrase "flip flopper" - of course, if you're wrong about something and you know it, maintaining your stand will only serve to dig the hole even deeper.
"Honest, trustworth" - Kerry 29%, Bush 70%. :shocked:
"Strong religious faith" - Kerry 8%, Bus 91%. Another well-known leader has great faith too - bin Laden. he's quite sure god is on his side too. God's just going to have to flip a coin I suppose to see who to help. And before everyone goes nuts "Bush != bin Laden," duh. Bush doesn't use outright acts of terror to deliberately attack civilians, I'll give him that. They just get caught in the crossfire when he bombs a building or two to get a few insurgents. "Oops, sorry!" Oh well, they're with god now, anyway, so all should be fine then, right?:roll:
"Intelligent" - Kerry 91%, Bush 8%. People tend not to like those who they view as smarter than them, thus explaining the Bush vote.
Kerry wins on Economy, Iraq, Health care, and Education.
"Will bring about needed change" - Kerry 95%, Bush 5%
"Clear stand on issues" - Kerry 21%, Bush 78%.
I owe the latter to Bush's catch phrase "flip flopper" - of course, if you're wrong about something and you know it, maintaining your stand will only serve to dig the hole even deeper.
"Honest, trustworth" - Kerry 29%, Bush 70%. :shocked:
"Strong religious faith" - Kerry 8%, Bus 91%. Another well-known leader has great faith too - bin Laden. he's quite sure god is on his side too. God's just going to have to flip a coin I suppose to see who to help. And before everyone goes nuts "Bush != bin Laden," duh. Bush doesn't use outright acts of terror to deliberately attack civilians, I'll give him that. They just get caught in the crossfire when he bombs a building or two to get a few insurgents. "Oops, sorry!" Oh well, they're with god now, anyway, so all should be fine then, right?:roll:
"Intelligent" - Kerry 91%, Bush 8%. People tend not to like those who they view as smarter than them, thus explaining the Bush vote.
MidasKnight
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KK
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If you're married it looks like you'd vote Bush, unmarried goes to Kerry.
Education- If you are a dropout, kerry got 50 to 49. pretty close. High school, some college, college guaduate, all bush. Some post guaduate work, 55% kerry. Must be all those liberal college professors.
Ages 30+ bush, 18-29 kerry. I guess that saying is true.
Education- If you are a dropout, kerry got 50 to 49. pretty close. High school, some college, college guaduate, all bush. Some post guaduate work, 55% kerry. Must be all those liberal college professors.
Ages 30+ bush, 18-29 kerry. I guess that saying is true.
I hate this idea that I'm supposed to apologize for being a white Christian educated male. That's what I am, and I'm proud of it. And it should be no surprise that I voted for Bush, and will probably vote for every Republican presidential candidate as long as I live.
Originally posted by: ntdz
and obviously, the party of America
PARTY ON!
Umm, nearly 1/2 of U.S. voters disagree with you. Keep that in mind while you celebrate. Don't choke.
I believe the White Christian part. Ya lost me after that.
Actually, those graphs amply demonstrate how good Bush was at inserting the wedge issues into the campaign. Just start talking about gay marriage and abortions and demonize the Dems over those issues and you pick up religious Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, and even some middle of the road Christians. Beautiful strategy and it worked like a charm. Americans are easily distracted and easily led by ideas with little political substance but which resonant with their moral values.
-Robert
-Robert
Yep. It sure is. The ugliness from the religious white is disgusting. The main source of bigotry and hatred from the so-called Christians.
CaptnKirk
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I think that this is a pretty damn accurate anaylisis of how it all came down
The Red Zone
Maureen Dowd - New York Times
<CLIP>
With the Democratic Party splattered at his feet in little blue puddles, John Kerry told the crushed crowd at Faneuil Hall in Boston about his concession call to President Bush.
"We had a good conversation," the senator said. "And we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need, for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together. Today I hope that we can begin the healing."
Democrat: Heal thyself.
W. doesn't see division as a danger. He sees it as a wingman.
The president got re-elected by dividing the country along fault lines of fear, intolerance, ignorance and religious rule. He doesn't want to heal rifts; he wants to bring any riffraff who disagree to heel.
W. ran a jihad in America so he can fight one in Iraq - drawing a devoted flock of evangelicals, or "values voters," as they call themselves, to the polls by opposing abortion, suffocating stem cell research and supporting a constitutional amendment against gay marriage.
Mr. Bush, whose administration drummed up fake evidence to trick us into war with Iraq, sticking our troops in an immoral position with no exit strategy, won on "moral issues."
The president says he's "humbled" and wants to reach out to the whole country. What humbug. The Bushes are always gracious until they don't get their way. If W. didn't reach out after the last election, which he barely grabbed, why would he reach out now that he has what Dick Cheney calls a "broad, nationwide victory"?
While Mr. Bush was making his little speech about reaching out, Republicans said they had "the green light" to pursue their conservative agenda, like drilling in Alaska's wilderness and rewriting the tax code.
"He'll be a lot more aggressive in Iraq now," one Bush insider predicts. "He'll raze Falluja if he has to. He feels that the election results endorsed his version of the war." Never mind that the more insurgents American troops kill, the more they create.
Just listen to Dick (Oh, lordy, is this cuckoo clock still vice president?) Cheney, introducing the Man for his victory speech: "This has been a consequential presidency which has revitalized our economy and reasserted a confident American role in the world." Well, it has revitalized the Halliburton segment of the economy, anyhow. And "confident" is not the first word that comes to mind for the foreign policy of a country that has alienated everyone except Fiji.
Vice continued, "Now we move forward to serve and to guard the country we love." Only Dick Cheney can make "to serve and to guard" sound like "to rape and to pillage."
He's creating the sort of "democracy" he likes. One party controls all power in the country. One network serves as state TV. One nation dominates the world as a hyperpower. One firm controls contracts in Iraq.
Just as Zell Miller was so over the top at the G.O.P. convention that he made Mr. Cheney seem reasonable, so several new members of Congress will make W. seem moderate.
Tom Coburn, the new senator from Oklahoma, has advocated the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions and warned that "the gay agenda" would undermine the country. He also characterized his race as a choice between "good and evil" and said he had heard there was "rampant lesbianism" in Oklahoma schools.
Jim DeMint, the new senator from South Carolina, said during his campaign that he supported a state G.O.P. platform plank banning gays from teaching in public schools. He explained, "I would have given the same answer when asked if a single woman who was pregnant and living with her boyfriend should be hired to teach my third-grade children."
John Thune, who toppled Tom Daschle, is an anti-abortion Christian conservative - or "servant leader," as he was hailed in a campaign ad - who supports constitutional amendments banning flag burning and gay marriage.
Seeing the exit polls, the Democrats immediately started talking about values and religion. Their sudden passion for wooing Southern white Christian soldiers may put a crimp in Hillary's 2008 campaign (nothing but a wooden stake would stop it). Meanwhile, the blue puddle is comforting itself with the expectation that this loony bunch will fatally overreach, just as Newt Gingrich did in the 90's
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't bother shooting the messanger - Mediocre America can't face reality.
Fear and Loathing - Paranoid White Amerika, land of the Klan. Religious Biggotry.
The Red Zone
Maureen Dowd - New York Times
<CLIP>
With the Democratic Party splattered at his feet in little blue puddles, John Kerry told the crushed crowd at Faneuil Hall in Boston about his concession call to President Bush.
"We had a good conversation," the senator said. "And we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need, for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together. Today I hope that we can begin the healing."
Democrat: Heal thyself.
W. doesn't see division as a danger. He sees it as a wingman.
The president got re-elected by dividing the country along fault lines of fear, intolerance, ignorance and religious rule. He doesn't want to heal rifts; he wants to bring any riffraff who disagree to heel.
W. ran a jihad in America so he can fight one in Iraq - drawing a devoted flock of evangelicals, or "values voters," as they call themselves, to the polls by opposing abortion, suffocating stem cell research and supporting a constitutional amendment against gay marriage.
Mr. Bush, whose administration drummed up fake evidence to trick us into war with Iraq, sticking our troops in an immoral position with no exit strategy, won on "moral issues."
The president says he's "humbled" and wants to reach out to the whole country. What humbug. The Bushes are always gracious until they don't get their way. If W. didn't reach out after the last election, which he barely grabbed, why would he reach out now that he has what Dick Cheney calls a "broad, nationwide victory"?
While Mr. Bush was making his little speech about reaching out, Republicans said they had "the green light" to pursue their conservative agenda, like drilling in Alaska's wilderness and rewriting the tax code.
"He'll be a lot more aggressive in Iraq now," one Bush insider predicts. "He'll raze Falluja if he has to. He feels that the election results endorsed his version of the war." Never mind that the more insurgents American troops kill, the more they create.
Just listen to Dick (Oh, lordy, is this cuckoo clock still vice president?) Cheney, introducing the Man for his victory speech: "This has been a consequential presidency which has revitalized our economy and reasserted a confident American role in the world." Well, it has revitalized the Halliburton segment of the economy, anyhow. And "confident" is not the first word that comes to mind for the foreign policy of a country that has alienated everyone except Fiji.
Vice continued, "Now we move forward to serve and to guard the country we love." Only Dick Cheney can make "to serve and to guard" sound like "to rape and to pillage."
He's creating the sort of "democracy" he likes. One party controls all power in the country. One network serves as state TV. One nation dominates the world as a hyperpower. One firm controls contracts in Iraq.
Just as Zell Miller was so over the top at the G.O.P. convention that he made Mr. Cheney seem reasonable, so several new members of Congress will make W. seem moderate.
Tom Coburn, the new senator from Oklahoma, has advocated the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions and warned that "the gay agenda" would undermine the country. He also characterized his race as a choice between "good and evil" and said he had heard there was "rampant lesbianism" in Oklahoma schools.
Jim DeMint, the new senator from South Carolina, said during his campaign that he supported a state G.O.P. platform plank banning gays from teaching in public schools. He explained, "I would have given the same answer when asked if a single woman who was pregnant and living with her boyfriend should be hired to teach my third-grade children."
John Thune, who toppled Tom Daschle, is an anti-abortion Christian conservative - or "servant leader," as he was hailed in a campaign ad - who supports constitutional amendments banning flag burning and gay marriage.
Seeing the exit polls, the Democrats immediately started talking about values and religion. Their sudden passion for wooing Southern white Christian soldiers may put a crimp in Hillary's 2008 campaign (nothing but a wooden stake would stop it). Meanwhile, the blue puddle is comforting itself with the expectation that this loony bunch will fatally overreach, just as Newt Gingrich did in the 90's
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't bother shooting the messanger - Mediocre America can't face reality.
Fear and Loathing - Paranoid White Amerika, land of the Klan. Religious Biggotry.
TastesLikeChicken
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- Sep 12, 2004
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Married couples vote Bush over Kerry, while the stat shown that Kerry have the majority with the unwed.
The most importantt issue poll place Bush voters weight behind moral values & terrorism while Kerry voters important issue are economy/jobs, Iraq, health care, and education.
The most importantt issue poll place Bush voters weight behind moral values & terrorism while Kerry voters important issue are economy/jobs, Iraq, health care, and education.
judasmachine
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I want to see a Briggs/Myers personality type vs. who voted for who. I bet most that voted for Bush are ESTJ. I am an INFP.
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