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taltamir

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What do you mean belief? It is a FACT that macs cost more for lower end hardware (or a LOT more for higher end). They counteract that extra cost with benefits in the form of case design, a unique operating system, etc...

Things that are important to some, but not to others. Some of the issue though is that as GAMERS you HAVE to run windows to play games. Not a matter of choice, you just do. So either you buy a much more expensive apple and install windows on it via bootcamp to play games; destroying all the benefits of owning a mac, either you run windows on it, or you don't game on your mac.
 

hans007

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i rarely game, but i can understand the guys with really idle jobs who bring them in.

at my office our team who writes patch scripts when they arent doing anything watch hulu or dvds at work. so i can see the reasoning behind it.

i'm not a big time gamer (used to be more of one say 10 years ago... in the original starcraft days) but i figure other than a few really special circumstances it seems to be not so great an idea to game on a laptop.

laptops are expensive and cant have big screens, nice keyboards etc. i figure given netbooks are out, theres no need to have a one size fits all computer. with the price of machines now, you can buy a desktop for gaming with a monitor and a netbook or lower end laptop and still cost less than a gaming laptop (or even a laptop that isn't a "gamer laptop" but one that thas a decent enough discrete video card to play games like a macbook pro)
 

TheStu

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: TheStu
Originally posted by: Parasitic
Originally posted by: taltamir
the whole point of bootcamp is to allow apple to rip its suckers for a few more bucks.. they can now put a beefier video card in there, then sell them bootcamp "software", then the person can game on their apple PC/Laptop... for more than twice what a real computer would cost.

I don't think Apple has ever charged for Boot Camp. It was freely available as beta back with OSX 10.4 and included as part of Leopard.

Most laptops that have a 9600M GT inside tend to run $1000+, rendering your "more than twice" argument invalid. As of May 31, 2009 3am EST, there are 12 laptops with 9600M GT listed on Newegg, and only 5 out of 12 are priced at <$999, hardly the majority. Out of the 12 laptops with 9600M GT, only 2 have a CPU clock higher than Macbook Pro's base 2.40GHz configuration.

And TheStu, it's fruitless to keep arguing for Mac's value outside the Apple forum. You can keep arguing until the cows came home, but those with the belief that Macs are overpriced underpowered machines deeply rooted in their minds will still chalk it up as fanboyism. I wish people's minds can change but unforunately most don't.

I stopped trying a while ago, I regret having ever mentioned MacBook Pro since it always get people up into an ire and causes them to start foaming at the mouth, screaming 'Too Expensive!' 'Bad for games!' 'Epic Fail!'. That was my bad for saying the naughty words :)

The problem isn't the people bashing the mac book, the problem is the mac people bringing it up during a gaming laptop thread. This thread was asking about gaming laptops and if you use them. You brought up a laptop that is simply not a gaming laptop or geared for it. I would say the same thing if someone brought up a Windows based laptop that had, say, integrated Intel graphics.

The other problem is you keep comparing the MacBook Pro to a 17" gaming laptop to make the justification that the MacBook Pro is a better package because it's smaller. Do you not realize that there are many other gaming laptops from Alienware, Sager, Dell, MSI, Asus and others that are in the 15.4-15.6" range that have the same size/weight as the MacBook Pro, but far superior specs and price? For some reason you can't see past the largest of large gaming laptops. Why aren't you using the MacBook Pro 17" as a reference against the 17" Windows laptop? The MacBook Pro offers nothing as an advantage over a windows based laptop for gaming - which this thread is about. It's simply under powered for the price point and lacks the support of the gaming industry.

As I have said, many many times now. With regards to people gaming on their laptops, in my group of friends there is the guy with teh 'gaming laptop' and the guy with the MacBook Pro. The MBP seems to do pretty well, but is still light and portable. Those were my personal frames of reference. I have no idea how a Dell, or Sager, or Alienware, or MSI, or Asus do, since I have no hands on experience with them.

Christ, we get it, they suck as a gaming system, and are too expensive... you have all made your points clear, now please allow me to make mine.

I AM SORRY I EVER DEIGNED TO UTTER THE WORDS MACBOOK PRO HERE, I APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY AND PROSTRATE MYSELF AT THE ALTAR OF THE GAMING LAPTOP.
 

KeypoX

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I can't wait till laptops are as powerful as desktops. Though i would still need monitors and regular keyboard/mouse. But thats fine :) Also need the prices to come down, 2000 for a computer is way way outside my league. I can just deal with the box for now.
 

gtd2000

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I've used gaming laptops for the past 4 years and not really looked back.

Current model is the Gateway 6860 FX and it suits my needs perfectly.

Basically, I don't know which country I'll be based in from one year to the next, so a 17" laptop covers a lot of bases :D
 

taltamir

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but is still light and portable
The macbook pro is no more light and portable than a light and portable laptop from dell or HP... heck there are some that compete with the macbook AIR for lightness and portability.
 

Schadenfroh

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I do not play many games anymore, when I do I normally play community made modules for Neverwinter Nights 1 on my desktop (Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 + nVidia GTX260). I try to keep a copy of Counter-Strike on my laptop for use by my friends when they are over. I normally do not game on it myself.

I suppose a laptop with an nVidia 7900 in it can be considered a gaming laptop. It was bought way back in 2006, so an nVidia 7900 was pretty good back then for a laptop.
 

EliteRetard

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Originally posted by: taltamir
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3569

In this recent review Jarred states:
For better or for worse, most of the notebook manufacturers seem to be most interested in sending us their top-end gaming laptops for review. We hope to have a roundup of several "normal" laptops in the near future -- you know, laptops that weigh less than five pounds and hopefully get over three hours of battery life.

I think he is absolutely right, most my friends are gamers, some PC gamers, some console gamers, some both.. but none that I know of play games on laptops... expensive, hot, short battery life, small monitor, uncomfortable keyboard and mouse... laptops are just not very good gaming platforms in my opinion...

So, do people actually want gaming laptops or are computer companies developing for an imaginary client base? like the mythical "hardcore gamer" targeted by reviewers and game makers, who hates plot, thinks a game's quality is measured by its graphics, and owns an overclocked 1000$ CPU and a triple or quad video cards... on windows XP... with 2GB of "gamer" ram.

GARRRRRR! FARKING HARF NARFER! I cant even say what Im trying to...RAWR!

DELETE

GAH! Nevermind! I just cant say what I want...

This took me 3 hours to write! Its 5AM I cant get the words out right...