Who the hell would want to be a teacher nowadays?

[techs]

It would seem that becoming a teach today is a pretty iffy future.
First they want to hold you responsible if you get a class full of morons who refuse to learn. Fired.
Then they hang on every word you utter in the classroom. Use the wrong word. Fired.
Then they give you books full of mythology and tell you to teach it as fact. If you don't, fired.
Even if you do a good job, there is a significant portion of the population who will put you down, vote for politicians who promise to cut your salary, and blame you for, well, just about everything.

Seriously, what smart young person would want to go into teaching???

 

[Imdmn04]

WTF you talking bout.

Teachers are very hard to fire compared to the private sector. It would take up to a year or two to fire a teacher for misconduct.

 

[zerocool84]

Teaching in public school is full of fail. I have a couple of friends that are trying to be teachers in the Los Angeles Unified School District. I tell them that they're lucky to even find a job and if they have it, they better help the kids cheat on all the tests.

 

[shortylickens]

I sure wouldnt. Too much bullshit especially for the money.

 

[chedrz]

As corny as it sounds, teachers teach because they want to shape the lives of their students. They want to help kids find topics that interest them. At least that's my plan. Of course, I also want to get my doctorate and get out of secondary education as fast as I can.

 

[WraithETC]

Good teachers don't care about those things. Most teachers do however.

 

[Newbian]

At least you have a lot of options to sleep with the hot chicks, provided they are legal.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

WTF you talking bout.

Teachers are very hard to fire compared to the private sector. It would take up to a year or two to fire a teacher for misconduct.

Its hard when they have tenure and seniority but if they are a new teacher its pretty simple. They also do it by how many years have you been in that district.

When I was in high school 2 years ago, the Santa Ana Unified School District laid off hundreds of teachers and the first to go were the ones who had taught less than 5 years within the district.

Math and science teachers were in the clear but social studies, languages, English and arts were the first to go. Dont forget the fact that we already had 45 students in one class. I graduated before the cuts really affected me but when I visited there were 60 in a class.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Its hard when they have tenure and seniority but if they are a new teacher its pretty simple. They also do it by how many years have you been in that district.

When I was in high school 2 years ago, the Santa Ana Unified School District laid off hundreds of teachers and the first to go were the ones who had taught less than 5 years within the district.

Math and science teachers were in the clear but social studies, languages, English and arts were the first to go. Dont forget the fact that we already had 45 students in one class. I graduated before the cuts really affected me but when I visited there were 60 in a class.

I teach and here in Florida we are getting rid of tenure and making it easier to get rid of teachers. Honestly it isn't that difficult to get rid of a teacher with tenure that is truly doing a piss poor job.

Currently we are in a state of financial crisis even though the school board has a receptionist that is paid 137k, we give every superintendent a golden parachute and fire them in two years or less etc.

This is my fifth year and out of five years teachers have taken cuts in three, then everyone cries about the state of education in jacksonville florida. So DTU puts forth a movement to add a penny to sales tax so we dont have to fire teachers and it gets rejected by the same voters that complain about education.

 

[Dumac]

It would seem that becoming a teach today is a pretty iffy future.
First they want to hold you responsible if you get a class full of morons who refuse to learn. Fired.

No, they don't fire you. They do want students to pass, but that just results in easier material rather than employee discipline.

Then they hang on every word you utter in the classroom. Use the wrong word. Fired.

No they don't. Half of my teachers in HS said "they want me to teach x, but I don't want to. I'm going to teach y"

Then they give you books full of mythology and tell you to teach it as fact. If you don't, fired.

What the hell are you talking about? I wasn't taught mythology as fact at all, and this is in the deep south, where everyone was christian and swore Obama was a Muslim who carried a Qu'ran.

Even if you do a good job, there is a significant portion of the population who will put you down, vote for politicians who promise to cut your salary, and blame you for, well, just about everything.

Most teachers don't do a good job. Most teachers do a horrible job, don't care about the kids, and are just there for an easy paycheck. That is why some of the population is critical of the profession, and of education in general.

Seriously, what smart young person would want to go into teaching???

This is true, most young, smart people wouldn't, unless they have an extreme passion for teaching. Must be why the field is so filled with dumb (old) people. Not to mention, old teachers hang on to their jobs with their cold, dead hands.

 

[RPD]

The ones that want 4months out of the year off.

I guess it depends where you live. The city I live in has great public schools, I know a lot of teachers and most really enjoy it.

 

[deadlyapp]

I have two friends just about to graduate school in teaching.

One just wants to do it for the kids and doesn't care about the pay
Another one wants to be a teacher for a couple years then move into administrator for the money. I told her she's a fuckin retard.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

My ex went to school and became a teacher.
I've always had a teacher fetish.

Then again, I suppose that's expected after being fondled by kindergarten teacher...

 

[RSaylors]

Seriously, what smart young person would want to go into teaching???

It used to be that a woman could only get a job as a nurse or a school teacher. There were lots of very smart women, working for much lower wages, simply because they weren’t social allowed to do anything else. We opened up the market place but forgot to match the compensation for the labor to the increased competition for it. So now you have only wiled-eyed idealists who want to make a difference in the world and people that honestly can’t do much else and just need to pick up a pay-check.

we give every superintendent a golden parachute and fire them in two years or less

Super Nintendos get fired, this is the nature of the job, they take the ax for everything that goes wrong, ever. They know this. So how are you going to attract a good super Nintendo if you don’t give her a little security by offering a golden parachute if spontaneously fired by an angry mob of parents (which as you said, forms every 2 years or so)?

 

[Analog]

Amazing as it may sound, money isn't everything. Teaching happens to be one of the most fulfilling things anyone can do.

 

[TridenT]

Idk.

We need more of them though... Competition isn't that competitive for teaching by the looks of our educational standards. >.> It could just be the process though.

Just have to wait until all the baby boomers die then we're good...

 

[Analog]

How timely. I just received this email from a recent grad:

Edited for posting purposes to protect identities.

Greetings,

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Secondly, I wanted to inform you that I have, at long last, acquired a job! I will be able to travel the country and live in different cities. I will move every 2 years and be able to experience a lot of the different living conditions. The company is called ******, and they do software testing, consulting and ... stuff. I've never done the work before, but I start training on Monday in ***** ** .

I think the biggest downside to this job is I have no idea (or any say, for that matter) where I end up. So I could be in Chicago, or LA, or Austin, you just don't know. But, I will try to make it back for Senior projects, hopefully I can convince them that it's for recruiting purposes ... but hey, I digress.

Anyway, just wanted to give you the heads up and that if you need anything that you think I could assist you with, please don't hesitate to ask. Our relationship didn't end when I graduated.

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[Vette73]

WTF you talking bout.

Teachers are very hard to fire compared to the private sector. It would take up to a year or two to fire a teacher for misconduct.

In most places it is not that hard. Teachers are under contract in many places. So if they don't like you then no contract for next year. No you were not fired, but you also do not have a job next year.

Now places liek NYC that have better systems for teachers then it is harder. But that is not the norm.

 

[Red Dawn]

Idk.

We need more of them though... Competition isn't that competitive for teaching by the looks of our educational standards. >.> It could just be the process though.

Just have to wait until all the baby boomers die then we're good...

By then you'll be out of school and the likelihood is that you'll never have any children so it shouldn't matter to you.

 

[RSaylors]

Analog's got the answer.

 

[Exterous]

Its hard when they have tenure and seniority but if they are a new teacher its pretty simple. They also do it by how many years have you been in that district.

Especially with all the budget cuts going around the lowest seniority always goes first. At a school just down the road they fired every teacher with less than 8 years in the district. About half got called back but still they did a sweeping layoff with an easy flick of the wrist

Currently we are in a state of financial crisis even though the school board has a receptionist that is paid 137k, we give every superintendent a golden parachute and fire them in two years or less etc.

My wife's school (and most in the area) have been hiring administrators, janitors, bus drivers, etc but firing teachers. This year they cut over 100 teachers, gutting language, art, music programs but eliminating some science and English as well. NO administrators, janitors, bus drivers etc were let go. Great thing for a school to do - lets up the class sizes to 38 kids a teacher but have 9 janitors for the High School, 3 secretaries making $58,000, $65,000 and $83000 each (Because each Principle, Asst. Principle needs one. Heaven forbid they share). It's not like the schools are supposed to teach students or anything

 

[Bateluer]

Currently we are in a state of financial crisis even though the school board has a receptionist that is paid 137k, we give every superintendent a golden parachute and fire them in two years or less etc.

This is my fifth year and out of five years teachers have taken cuts in three, then everyone cries about the state of education in jacksonville florida. So DTU puts forth a movement to add a penny to sales tax so we dont have to fire teachers and it gets rejected by the same voters that complain about education.

Hmm, perhaps they should listen to the voters and find other places to stream line their budget. Sounds like they can start with payroll. 137K for a receptionist is, ugh, high. Major cuts in administrative people and their pay would save most school districts truckloads of money.

The voters don't want government reaching into their wallets every time they need money because they're incompetent at managing what they already have.

 

[NFS4]

My wife is a second grade teacher and she loves it -- she has more problems dealing with internal politics, catty women, and budget constraints than actual problems with the kids/parents in second grade. When she was teaching kindergarten, the parents and kids were a bit more tiresome to deal with (she got moved to second grade last year due to lower enrollment, and she was the last one hired...)

She's normally one of the first teachers there in the morning (around 7:30am) and many times won't get home until around around 6pm because she's anal about having everything perfect for the next day (which has been a point of contention between us at times -- school is over at 3:30pm).

But teaching is what she's always wanted to do, and it makes her happy.

 

[MotF Bane]

Especially with all the budget cuts going around the lowest seniority always goes first. At a school just down the road they fired every teacher with less than 8 years in the district. About half got called back but still they did a sweeping layoff with an easy flick of the wrist



My wife's school (and most in the area) have been hiring administrators, janitors, bus drivers, etc but firing teachers. This year they cut over 100 teachers, gutting language, art, music programs but eliminating some science and English as well. NO administrators, janitors, bus drivers etc were let go. Great thing for a school to do - lets up the class sizes to 38 kids a teacher but have 9 janitors for the High School, 3 secretaries making $58,000, $65,000 and $83000 each (Because each Principle, Asst. Principle needs one. Heaven forbid they share). It's not like the schools are supposed to teach students or anything

Yep, every time there needs to a town/city budget cut, the politicians start with the teachers. The administration tends to go untouched.

 

[MotF Bane]

It would seem that becoming a teach today is a pretty iffy future.
First they want to hold you responsible if you get a class full of morons who refuse to learn. Fired.
Then they hang on every word you utter in the classroom. Use the wrong word. Fired.
Then they give you books full of mythology and tell you to teach it as fact. If you don't, fired.
Even if you do a good job, there is a significant portion of the population who will put you down, vote for politicians who promise to cut your salary, and blame you for, well, just about everything.

Seriously, what smart young person would want to go into teaching???

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