Who the hell buys a $54,000 pickup truck that doesn't even have 4WD?

[Pastore]

You said that you would rather spend that money on X5 or an ML55...

Many people wouldn't even consider them just because they are foreign...

 

[Suicidal]

European cars don't cost any more to maintain than any other car. I've seen some american cars that cost a sh1t load to maintain. As long as you do the regular upkeep, most cars should last a long time. Or just buy an extended warranty.

 

[duragezic]

Can you say POSER pickup? Damn all these new trucks are poser ones. I don't like trucks at all but if you're gonna get a truck to haul stuff and tow, then get a 4WD with a decent size box to at least fit more than a cooler in it.



<< They are both definitely ugly and no real man would ever drive those pansy-ass vehicles. >>



Hahahha

 

[SJ]

Its just a variant of the Supercrew, aka an F150 that has four doors and a short bed that is shorter than the standard short bed. Bleh, the Harley Davidson Supercrew looks better, and 20k cheaper.

 

[1967mustangman]

That is not a truck that is a toy!

 

[NFS4]

<< That is not a truck that is a toy! >>


It's not a toy, it's a CrackerJack prize

 

[LAUST]

<< European cars don't cost any more to maintain than any other car. I've seen some american cars that cost a sh1t load to maintain. As long as you do the regular upkeep, most cars should last a long time. Or just buy an extended warranty. >>



Mmmm I don't agree, here is my scenario, I bought a Performance 4L60-E tranny for my truck with all the fixens, Kevlar belts, Both sylinoids make the vetts look tiny and a 2400 Stall converter, $1800... find me even a STOCK configuration tranny for a X5 thats near that.. heck near 2X the price even. Europe imports are VERY expensive to maintain.. there was someone awhile back saying he already needed a clutch at 70K miles and he said it was like $1200, the thread is here somewhere but my gawd, I can get a KING COBRA for $199.


Also about the X5 being a alternative and having 4x4 WHY!! I bet the transfercases never see the light of day on a X5 or Lexus or any luxury Suv. I live in COLDorado and don't even use 4x4 in the snow even with &quot;Exploding Firestones&quot; which are not only crap due to their exploding but the tread wears out in 30K miles. 4x4 is only needed for &quot;Blue Box&quot; and &quot;Black Diamond&quot; those X5's can hit the &quot;Green Circles&quot; all they want Tho I bet they prefer the Flatirons mall

 

[bonkers325]

wish i got that much $

 

[1967mustangman]

<< It's not a toy, it's a CrackerJack prize >>







You are right what was I thinking

 

[Deicide]

If you are going to spend over 50 grand on a car, then I don't think that repair costs are going to make that much of an impact on your buying decision. Plus if you buy new, most cars from any manufacturer have a decent warranty that covers most common things that would need repairing on the car. 54 grand for a F-150 with Connolly leather doesn't seem like that good a bargain to me, I'd rather get a new Audi A4 and a used good condition Corvette for about the same price.

 

[Sluggo]

Buncha punk azz kids

Lincoln knows their market, not everyone wants an X5, or a Navigator. This truck isnt made for contractors, or rednecks, or boy racers. It is made for retired or semi retired old men. It has the ride and the luxury features they want, and they can also throw their golf clubs in the back or head up the nursery to pick up some plants for the garden.

Nearly every retired couple I know has a big honkin Town Car or Cadillac, and a pick-up of some sort. They are gonna buy the crap out of this thing.

Just because it doesnt fit any of your particular needs or you think it silly, Lincoln has been making cars and selling the crap out them, since before most of your Grandparents were born, they arent stupid.

 

[ElFenix]

why would 4WD be offered? this thing was never meant to see off-road which is pretty much the only time you can use it. sure, there are people out there in 4WD trucks and SUVs that turn on 4 HI every time a drop of rain hits their windshield, and all those people are doing is killing their drivetrain with all the bind that happens when it goes around corners. so ford is lowering its potential warranty maintenence costs by leaving that out, as well as achieving a desired look for its product.

Beast1284 - they're trucks, no matter what the marketeers call them. 4-dr trucks have been popular in most other parts of the world for a long time, in fact thats most of the trucks you see. the avalanche is mostly suburban, not silverado, though. the explorer sport trac and explorer sport are still based on the ranger, not on the totally different new explorer. still trucks. not like the lexus rx300 which is really a minivan with better ground clearance. like the mazda mpv used to be.

 

[NFS4]

<< Buncha punk azz kids

Lincoln knows their market, not everyone wants an X5, or a Navigator. This truck isnt made for contractors, or rednecks, or boy racers. It is made for retired or semi retired old men. It has the ride and the luxury features they want, and they can also throw their golf clubs in the back or head up the nursery to pick up some plants for the garden.

Nearly every retired couple I know has a big honkin Town Car or Cadillac, and a pick-up of some sort. They are gonna buy the crap out of this thing.

Just because it doesnt fit any of your particular needs or you think it silly, Lincoln has been making cars and selling the crap out them, since before most of your Grandparents were born, they arent stupid. >>


Oldsmobile has sold a lot of cars too, and they have been along for a long time...but time can catch up with ya This is just a desperate move by Lincoln to milk it to the extreme. Afterall, they have been passed over by Lexus and Mercedes in luxury car/truck sales.

I still stand by the fact that a $54k pickup truck with little to no cargo space is a bad idea. But, the sheep will follow b/c it costs mucho $$$. For the same money, they could get the Navigator which has tons more cargo space and passenger room and eek out nearly the same fuel economy. There's also the Escalade in the same price range if you want to stay domestic.

 

[Thanatopsis]

<< why would 4WD be offered? this thing was never meant to see off-road which is pretty much the only time you can use it. sure, there are people out there in 4WD trucks and SUVs that turn on 4 HI every time a drop of rain hits their windshield, and all those people are doing is killing their drivetrain with all the bind that happens when it goes around corners. so ford is lowering its potential warranty maintenence costs by leaving that out, as well as achieving a desired look for its product.

Beast1284 - they're trucks, no matter what the marketeers call them. 4-dr trucks have been popular in most other parts of the world for a long time, in fact thats most of the trucks you see. the avalanche is mostly suburban, not silverado, though. the explorer sport trac and explorer sport are still based on the ranger, not on the totally different new explorer. still trucks. not like the lexus rx300 which is really a minivan with better ground clearance. like the mazda mpv used to be. >>



Thank you, ElFenix, for realizing that most people do NOT even use 4WD. If you had a $54,000 car/truck, would you take it four-wheeling anyway? Its a pickup, and with 300 HP, I'm sure it can haul a load a lumber. Who needs 4WD to haul 2x4's from the lumber yard down the street to your house? All it would do is waste gas. In 6 years, I think we've used the 4WD on our Exploder 3 times.

 

[NFS4]

<< not like the lexus rx300 which is really a minivan with better ground clearance. >>


The RX300 is based on the Toyota Camry, not a minivan. The Acura MDX sport-ute is based on the Honda Odyssey minivan.


<< Thank you, ElFenix, for realizing that most people do NOT even use 4WD. If you had a $54,000 car/truck, would you take it four-wheeling anyway? Its a pickup, and with 300 HP, I'm sure it can haul a load a lumber. Who needs 4WD to haul 2x4's from the lumber yard down the street to your house? All it would do is waste gas. In 6 years, I think we've used the 4WD on our Exploder 3 times. >>


You're not gonna haul lumber in that POS small cargo area with its in place toneau cover. You can't even fit a TV in that thing, let alone lumber. What's the point??? Buy a Town Car for Pete's sake!

 

[JohnnyKnoxville]

<< Buncha punk azz kids >>



Well that's stating the obvious

What this vehicle is best suited for like the article said is towing your big fancy boat.I could'nt think of a better ride to pull the ski boat and all your camping gear to the river.Its also the ultimate L.A. to Vegas cruiser,just throw all the luggage in the bed, load up your friends and off you go.Now for the high school kiddies get yourself a 1988 Honda whatever and take your sweetheart out to the local Taco Bell

 

[Sluggo]

<< For the same money, they could get the Navigator which has tons more cargo space and passenger room and eek out nearly the same fuel economy. There's also the Escalade in the same price range if you want to stay domestic. >>



Yeah, like they want the anti-SUV nazis pursuing them to their grave

I think the buyers will believe that the big SUVs are too much for them, and their retired driving skills, they will see the Blackwood as the perfect compromise.

 

[TaylorD]

Yeah, thats pretty absurd...

I think the Ford SVT Lightning is the only 2wd pickup worth buying.
Why would you buy a pickup if you don't need 4wd? (unless it goes 0-60 in 5.4 )

The GMC Sierra C3 is also pretty cool. It has full time 4wd and handles incredibly well for a pickup.


I guess the ideal buyers for this BlackWood thing are the same people who buy most SUVs today and never take them off the pavement.

 

[TaylorD]

Thanatopsis said:

<< In 6 years, I think we've used the 4WD on our Exploder 3 times. >>


Is that a joke? Or a typo? ... Either way, with that whole Firestone thing, its a pretty appropriate name for the Explorer.



Also, about the Avalanche...

The show car version looked awesome, I would love to get one of those. (Bigger wheels, accessories galore)
But the stock version, that they plan on selling, looks like crap.

 

[Tauren]

Who would buy a 2X4 pickup truck??

 

[bunker]

<< Who would buy a 2X4 pickup truck?? >>



Thousands of contractors who don't need 4wd but need the hauling capacity.

 

[BigSmooth]

Edmund's calls it &quot;shamelessly excessive&quot;.

 

[Lucky]

&quot;Many people wouldn't even consider them just because they are foreign... &quot;


And many people would never even consider buying an american car, including myself.

 

[Scabilian]

if I put big wheels and leather in my car can I call it a truck?

how dare they call that a truck!!

 

[Lucky]

And while that power top may seem like a great idea, Lincoln officials &quot;don't recommend&quot; that owners either remove it or operate the vehicle with it open, which means they can't carry cargo over 8 inches high. When the tonneau cover is lowered, built-in safety sensors reverse its motor if an obstacle is detected

-from the edmunds article