who the heck would pay $2,500 USD for this?

[OCGuy]

God Mac users are retarded.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Miklebud
My boss... Bought me one about 8 months ago. Hackintoshes don't cut it in an office full of Macs. 😉

My question is : Why the hell not? If you or someone else is willing to assemble it, what's the big deal?

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp
Nice looking computer. . . .with the cheapest, crappiest keyboard ever. Seriously.

The keyboard is actually pretty high quality. I think you mean you don't like the design, right? Fortunately you can use any USB keyboard with a Mac.

No, I hate crap rubber dome and scissor switch keyboards. I'd get a thinkpad if I was forced to use a laptop keyboard for long periods of time. Otherwise, I'd get a Happy Hacking Pro 2 or some small portable keyboard with cherry switches if I had to. Us keyboard whores universally accept the fact that Apple keyboards are among the worst of the worst in terms of quality of switches. They're cool for updating your facebook status or typing some blurts in an IM window, but if you're writing professionally or a serious programmer, the last thing you should use is a laptop keyboard, or worse, an apple keyboard.

Thank god for desktops and model Ms. 🙂

So... you're saying it's the design that you don't like.

No, he said scissor switches suck. Learn to read.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Seriously though - it's comparable to an entry level Core i7 computer from other manufacturers. But it's 3x the price...

The ?Nehalem? advantage.
Many quad-core processors are composed of two separate dies, which means some cached data has to travel outside the processor to get from core to core. That?s an inefficient way to access information. Enter the Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Nehalem? processor. Its single-die, 64-bit architecture makes 8MB of fully shared L3 cache readily available to each of the four processor cores. The result is fast access to cache data and greater application performance. Combine that with the other technological advances and you get a Mac Pro that?s up to 1.9x faster than the previous generation.1

"Many quad-core processors?" You mean like the ones you sold until yesterday?

while expensive, nowhere near 3x the price, a Dell with basically the same specs will be about $1,300, which would put the Mac Pro less than 2x the price. And the case Apple uses is about 100x better than any other offering from a pre-built PC. I'd say $250 extra range better. Still too expensive, but if I had to get a pre-built I would chose a Macpro for the case alone. I cannot stand the cheap POS cases Dell/Compaq/HP uses, even on the high end XPS the cases are horrible quality. And if I'm not mistaken even the single CPU Mac Pro has the same dual CPU MB the higher end model has. Which add's a good $$$ to the price. That would probably add another $300 to the price of a Dell, except it's not even an option on the similarly priced Dell. So we're talking maybe $800 total over a Dell once all is said and done.

still too much, but not even close to the 3x people typically bring up.

$300 extra to upgrade to a dual-core capable motherboard? 😕 and for $250, you can get a pretty decent quality Lian-li aluminum case which will be better than anything in Mac's lineup.

i dont know about that. the cases themselves on mac pros are incredibly nice.

but nothing justifies the price. it's ridiculous.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Cherry Electric is located in Deerfield IL.

 

[Baked]

Schools.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Seriously though - it's comparable to an entry level Core i7 computer from other manufacturers. But it's 3x the price...

The ?Nehalem? advantage.
Many quad-core processors are composed of two separate dies, which means some cached data has to travel outside the processor to get from core to core. That?s an inefficient way to access information. Enter the Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Nehalem? processor. Its single-die, 64-bit architecture makes 8MB of fully shared L3 cache readily available to each of the four processor cores. The result is fast access to cache data and greater application performance. Combine that with the other technological advances and you get a Mac Pro that?s up to 1.9x faster than the previous generation.1

"Many quad-core processors?" You mean like the ones you sold until yesterday?

while expensive, nowhere near 3x the price, a Dell with basically the same specs will be about $1,300, which would put the Mac Pro less than 2x the price. And the case Apple uses is about 100x better than any other offering from a pre-built PC. I'd say $250 extra range better. Still too expensive, but if I had to get a pre-built I would chose a Macpro for the case alone. I cannot stand the cheap POS cases Dell/Compaq/HP uses, even on the high end XPS the cases are horrible quality. And if I'm not mistaken even the single CPU Mac Pro has the same dual CPU MB the higher end model has. Which add's a good $$$ to the price. That would probably add another $300 to the price of a Dell, except it's not even an option on the similarly priced Dell. So we're talking maybe $800 total over a Dell once all is said and done.

still too much, but not even close to the 3x people typically bring up.

$300 extra to upgrade to a dual-core capable motherboard? 😕 and for $250, you can get a pretty decent quality Lian-li aluminum case which will be better than anything in Mac's lineup.

i dont know about that. the cases themselves on mac pros are incredibly nice.

but nothing justifies the price. it's ridiculous.

250$ gets you almost ANY lian-Li, the older mac pro case that people loved was basicially a copy of one

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
who the heck would pay $2,500 USD for this?

an idiot

 

[LtPage1]

It's a workstation, not a cheap gaming Dell. You're paying for the proprietary hardware and the warranty.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Seriously though - it's comparable to an entry level Core i7 computer from other manufacturers. But it's 3x the price...

The ?Nehalem? advantage.
Many quad-core processors are composed of two separate dies, which means some cached data has to travel outside the processor to get from core to core. That?s an inefficient way to access information. Enter the Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Nehalem? processor. Its single-die, 64-bit architecture makes 8MB of fully shared L3 cache readily available to each of the four processor cores. The result is fast access to cache data and greater application performance. Combine that with the other technological advances and you get a Mac Pro that?s up to 1.9x faster than the previous generation.1

"Many quad-core processors?" You mean like the ones you sold until yesterday?

while expensive, nowhere near 3x the price, a Dell with basically the same specs will be about $1,300, which would put the Mac Pro less than 2x the price. And the case Apple uses is about 100x better than any other offering from a pre-built PC. I'd say $250 extra range better. Still too expensive, but if I had to get a pre-built I would chose a Macpro for the case alone. I cannot stand the cheap POS cases Dell/Compaq/HP uses, even on the high end XPS the cases are horrible quality. And if I'm not mistaken even the single CPU Mac Pro has the same dual CPU MB the higher end model has. Which add's a good $$$ to the price. That would probably add another $300 to the price of a Dell, except it's not even an option on the similarly priced Dell. So we're talking maybe $800 total over a Dell once all is said and done.

still too much, but not even close to the 3x people typically bring up.

$300 extra to upgrade to a dual-core capable motherboard? 😕 and for $250, you can get a pretty decent quality Lian-li aluminum case which will be better than anything in Mac's lineup.

MB's that support 2 CPU's aren't cheap, especially i7 ones. $300 over a single i7 MB is resonable. Show me an i7 MB that supports 2 chips that's less than $600, you won't be able to. I can only find 2 period both are over $600 bucks. Worth it? Probably not, but that's a cutting edge MB, the single CPU i7 boards are still pretty expensive. The case is basically a Lian-Li clone, it's basically as good in every aspect. The best thing Macs have going for them in the case, I would pay $250 for a case of that quality without a 2nd thought.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Seriously though - it's comparable to an entry level Core i7 computer from other manufacturers. But it's 3x the price...

The ?Nehalem? advantage.
Many quad-core processors are composed of two separate dies, which means some cached data has to travel outside the processor to get from core to core. That?s an inefficient way to access information. Enter the Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Nehalem? processor. Its single-die, 64-bit architecture makes 8MB of fully shared L3 cache readily available to each of the four processor cores. The result is fast access to cache data and greater application performance. Combine that with the other technological advances and you get a Mac Pro that?s up to 1.9x faster than the previous generation.1

"Many quad-core processors?" You mean like the ones you sold until yesterday?

while expensive, nowhere near 3x the price, a Dell with basically the same specs will be about $1,300, which would put the Mac Pro less than 2x the price. And the case Apple uses is about 100x better than any other offering from a pre-built PC. I'd say $250 extra range better. Still too expensive, but if I had to get a pre-built I would chose a Macpro for the case alone. I cannot stand the cheap POS cases Dell/Compaq/HP uses, even on the high end XPS the cases are horrible quality. And if I'm not mistaken even the single CPU Mac Pro has the same dual CPU MB the higher end model has. Which add's a good $$$ to the price. That would probably add another $300 to the price of a Dell, except it's not even an option on the similarly priced Dell. So we're talking maybe $800 total over a Dell once all is said and done.

still too much, but not even close to the 3x people typically bring up.

$300 extra to upgrade to a dual-core capable motherboard? 😕 and for $250, you can get a pretty decent quality Lian-li aluminum case which will be better than anything in Mac's lineup.

MB's that support 2 CPU's aren't cheap, especially i& ones. $300 over a single i7 MB is resonable. Show me an i7 MB that supports 2 chips that's less than $600, you won't be able to. The case is basically a Lian-Li clone, it's as good in every aspect. The best thing Macs have going for them in the case, I would pay $250 for a case of that quality without a 2nd thought.

Dual-core does not equal dual-processor.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Seriously though - it's comparable to an entry level Core i7 computer from other manufacturers. But it's 3x the price...

The ?Nehalem? advantage.
Many quad-core processors are composed of two separate dies, which means some cached data has to travel outside the processor to get from core to core. That?s an inefficient way to access information. Enter the Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Nehalem? processor. Its single-die, 64-bit architecture makes 8MB of fully shared L3 cache readily available to each of the four processor cores. The result is fast access to cache data and greater application performance. Combine that with the other technological advances and you get a Mac Pro that?s up to 1.9x faster than the previous generation.1

"Many quad-core processors?" You mean like the ones you sold until yesterday?

while expensive, nowhere near 3x the price, a Dell with basically the same specs will be about $1,300, which would put the Mac Pro less than 2x the price. And the case Apple uses is about 100x better than any other offering from a pre-built PC. I'd say $250 extra range better. Still too expensive, but if I had to get a pre-built I would chose a Macpro for the case alone. I cannot stand the cheap POS cases Dell/Compaq/HP uses, even on the high end XPS the cases are horrible quality. And if I'm not mistaken even the single CPU Mac Pro has the same dual CPU MB the higher end model has. Which add's a good $$$ to the price. That would probably add another $300 to the price of a Dell, except it's not even an option on the similarly priced Dell. So we're talking maybe $800 total over a Dell once all is said and done.

still too much, but not even close to the 3x people typically bring up.

$300 extra to upgrade to a dual-core capable motherboard? 😕 and for $250, you can get a pretty decent quality Lian-li aluminum case which will be better than anything in Mac's lineup.

i dont know about that. the cases themselves on mac pros are incredibly nice.

but nothing justifies the price. it's ridiculous.

250$ gets you almost ANY lian-Li, the older mac pro case that people loved was basicially a copy of one

not really. lian-li came out with a case not long after the mac pro that looked similar, but the mac pro has a different form factor and airflow that makes the interior of it very clean and well ventilated. (compared to an ATX standard case)

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Seriously though - it's comparable to an entry level Core i7 computer from other manufacturers. But it's 3x the price...

The ?Nehalem? advantage.
Many quad-core processors are composed of two separate dies, which means some cached data has to travel outside the processor to get from core to core. That?s an inefficient way to access information. Enter the Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Nehalem? processor. Its single-die, 64-bit architecture makes 8MB of fully shared L3 cache readily available to each of the four processor cores. The result is fast access to cache data and greater application performance. Combine that with the other technological advances and you get a Mac Pro that?s up to 1.9x faster than the previous generation.1

"Many quad-core processors?" You mean like the ones you sold until yesterday?

while expensive, nowhere near 3x the price, a Dell with basically the same specs will be about $1,300, which would put the Mac Pro less than 2x the price. And the case Apple uses is about 100x better than any other offering from a pre-built PC. I'd say $250 extra range better. Still too expensive, but if I had to get a pre-built I would chose a Macpro for the case alone. I cannot stand the cheap POS cases Dell/Compaq/HP uses, even on the high end XPS the cases are horrible quality. And if I'm not mistaken even the single CPU Mac Pro has the same dual CPU MB the higher end model has. Which add's a good $$$ to the price. That would probably add another $300 to the price of a Dell, except it's not even an option on the similarly priced Dell. So we're talking maybe $800 total over a Dell once all is said and done.

still too much, but not even close to the 3x people typically bring up.

$300 extra to upgrade to a dual-core capable motherboard? 😕 and for $250, you can get a pretty decent quality Lian-li aluminum case which will be better than anything in Mac's lineup.

MB's that support 2 CPU's aren't cheap, especially i& ones. $300 over a single i7 MB is resonable. Show me an i7 MB that supports 2 chips that's less than $600, you won't be able to. The case is basically a Lian-Li clone, it's as good in every aspect. The best thing Macs have going for them in the case, I would pay $250 for a case of that quality without a 2nd thought.

Dual-core does not equal dual-processor.

If that was aimed at me, I know the difference, the MB in the basic Mac Pro supports dual i7 processors. People on here are comparing a system that can run 2 i7 cpu's to Dells that can't. The Mac Pro isn't worth the cost but it has features you don't get in any system that's much cheaper. If you find a Dell that supports 2 CPU's and isn't more expensive than the Apple somebody let me know 🙂

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp
Nice looking computer. . . .with the cheapest, crappiest keyboard ever. Seriously.

The keyboard is actually pretty high quality. I think you mean you don't like the design, right? Fortunately you can use any USB keyboard with a Mac.

No, I hate crap rubber dome and scissor switch keyboards. I'd get a thinkpad if I was forced to use a laptop keyboard for long periods of time. Otherwise, I'd get a Happy Hacking Pro 2 or some small portable keyboard with cherry switches if I had to. Us keyboard whores universally accept the fact that Apple keyboards are among the worst of the worst in terms of quality of switches. They're cool for updating your facebook status or typing some blurts in an IM window, but if you're writing professionally or a serious programmer, the last thing you should use is a laptop keyboard, or worse, an apple keyboard.

Thank god for desktops and model Ms. 🙂

So... you're saying it's the design that you don't like.

The keyboards used in the mac are cheap using low-cost, chinese made switches. It's a quality issue, not a design issue.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp
Nice looking computer. . . .with the cheapest, crappiest keyboard ever. Seriously.

The keyboard is actually pretty high quality. I think you mean you don't like the design, right? Fortunately you can use any USB keyboard with a Mac.

No, I hate crap rubber dome and scissor switch keyboards. I'd get a thinkpad if I was forced to use a laptop keyboard for long periods of time. Otherwise, I'd get a Happy Hacking Pro 2 or some small portable keyboard with cherry switches if I had to. Us keyboard whores universally accept the fact that Apple keyboards are among the worst of the worst in terms of quality of switches. They're cool for updating your facebook status or typing some blurts in an IM window, but if you're writing professionally or a serious programmer, the last thing you should use is a laptop keyboard, or worse, an apple keyboard.

Thank god for desktops and model Ms. 🙂

So... you're saying it's the design that you don't like.

The keyboards used in the mac are cheap using low-cost, chinese made switches. It's a quality issue, not a design issue.

as though chinese made suddenly means shit.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

That mesh look on the front of the case is really, really ugly. And after a quick google, the "Geforce 120 GT" in that thing performs similarly to a 9500 GT/9600 GSO. WTF?

 

[Mo0o]

http://store.apple.com/us/conf...419LL/A?mco=NDE4Mzg5MA

Would you like to add 4 gigs of ram for another $1000.00 dollars?

 

[CraKaJaX]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...419LL/A?mco=NDE4Mzg5MA

Would you like to add 4 gigs of ram for another $1000.00 dollars?

LMAO :laugh:

$1,000 is for the Apple logo. Why isn't this in Hot Deals?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: LtPage1
It's a workstation, not a cheap gaming Dell. You're paying for the proprietary hardware and the warranty.

There is nothing proprietary about the hardware. Off the shelf Intel server board, one or two Xeons, a "proprietary" GeForce GT 150 which is just a POS 9500GT, and some FB-DIMMs. Actually, the only really absurd thing about these new Mac Pros is that they should come stock with 1. a better fucking keyboard and mouse, I can't see ANYONE getting serious work done with a "mighty mouse". 2. Some graphics hardware to match that i7, not a stupid 9500GT. 3. WiFi, they're already charging $2,499...4. Finally, some SAS drives. Again, if this is a "serious work" machine then it needs some SAS or a VelociRaptor, not what's probably a WD6400AAKS. That's budget gamer build stuff.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishL...ishListNumber=12633708

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...419LL/A?mco=NDE4Mzg5MA

Would you like to add 4 gigs of ram for another $1000.00 dollars?

:laugh:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Mo0o
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...419LL/A?mco=NDE4Mzg5MA

Would you like to add 4 gigs of ram for another $1000.00 dollars?

:laugh:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

LMAO. They are using DDR3 SODIMMs though, which are actually on the expensive side. LOL, the expensive side of $50 fucking bucks! Text (Newegg DDR3 SODIMM search)

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Mo0o
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...419LL/A?mco=NDE4Mzg5MA

Would you like to add 4 gigs of ram for another $1000.00 dollars?

:laugh:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

LMAO. They are using DDR3 SODIMMs though, which are actually on the expensive side. LOL, the expensive side of $50 fucking bucks! Text (Newegg DDR3 SODIMM search)

Technically incorrect; they are charging $1000 to go from 2x2GB to 2x4GB. I'm sure 4GB DDR3 SODIMMs cost more than 2GB, but not $500 more per stick.

 

[marvdmartian]

The first rule of Apple: Fanbois will be fanbois. And they shall buy anything we slap an Apple symbol on.
The second rule of Apple: Never ever let the fanbois learn about rule #1!!! 😉

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Mo0o
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...419LL/A?mco=NDE4Mzg5MA

Would you like to add 4 gigs of ram for another $1000.00 dollars?

:laugh:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

LMAO. They are using DDR3 SODIMMs though, which are actually on the expensive side. LOL, the expensive side of $50 fucking bucks! Text (Newegg DDR3 SODIMM search)

Technically incorrect; they are charging $1000 to go from 2x2GB to 2x4GB. I'm sure 4GB DDR3 SODIMMs cost more than 2GB, but not $500 more per stick.

Whoa, huge goof on my part there. 4 GB DDR3 SODIMMs are expensive as fuck.

http://www.crucial.com/store/p...DULE=CT2KIT51264BC1067

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: nerp
Nice looking computer. . . .with the cheapest, crappiest keyboard ever. Seriously.

The keyboard is actually pretty high quality. I think you mean you don't like the design, right? Fortunately you can use any USB keyboard with a Mac.

No, I hate crap rubber dome and scissor switch keyboards. I'd get a thinkpad if I was forced to use a laptop keyboard for long periods of time. Otherwise, I'd get a Happy Hacking Pro 2 or some small portable keyboard with cherry switches if I had to. Us keyboard whores universally accept the fact that Apple keyboards are among the worst of the worst in terms of quality of switches. They're cool for updating your facebook status or typing some blurts in an IM window, but if you're writing professionally or a serious programmer, the last thing you should use is a laptop keyboard, or worse, an apple keyboard.

Thank god for desktops and model Ms. 🙂

So... you're saying it's the design that you don't like.

The keyboards used in the mac are cheap using low-cost, chinese made switches. It's a quality issue, not a design issue.

So they're prone to breaking? Or the action is not as smooth as other keyboards that use scissor switches? In what way is the quality poor, aside from the location of manufacture?