Who should replace Rumsfeld?

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How is the loss of Rumsfeld a win to the Democrats, it'd be more depedenant upon if they actually got someone that knew what they were doing in that position and made improvements.

Even if that happenend, it'd be more like a win for America.

 

[rhatsaruck]

Originally posted by: Lothar
Rummy isn't going anywhere.

 

[Moonbeam]

Who should replace Rumsfeld?

Either the Walrus or the Egg Man.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why should the president change Rummy now? The Generals claim they like the guy. Why would you trust some stupid retired general that has not seen action in 20 years?

it never leaves you once you've been there... and there are plenty of decent General-grade officers who retired more recently. In fact, there are Generals and Admirals retiring every year who may have even seen "action" in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. any one of them should be considered for the job before another useless civilian...

Us 'useless civilians' pay your salary capt underoos. Back the fck off.

that's true, but you make horrible Secretaries of Defense... so what was your point again?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
A monkey could do a better job than Rumsfeld.

The Monkey already has a job that makes him whine about how "hard" it is. I also don't think having the President doing 2 jobs is a good thing.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why should the president change Rummy now? The Generals claim they like the guy. Why would you trust some stupid retired general that has not seen action in 20 years?

it never leaves you once you've been there... and there are plenty of decent General-grade officers who retired more recently. In fact, there are Generals and Admirals retiring every year who may have even seen "action" in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. any one of them should be considered for the job before another useless civilian...

Us 'useless civilians' pay your salary capt underoos. Back the fck off.

that's true, but you make horrible Secretaries of Defense... so what was your point again?

My point, and I'll type it slowly for you, was that you're insulting the people who pay your salary, a bit hypocritical. But not surprising, and just because dumbsfeld makes a crappy SoD, doesn't mean another civilian would. You're a master of conjecture and correlation.

 

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
In Bush's mind, dumping Rumsfeld would be stating that Bush's judgement is flawed and that the critics were right.

I do not see that happening at all. Should that have been possible; it would have been before the 04 elections.

That's the thing. One thing (and maybe the only thing) I admire about President Bush is his loyalty - Clinton and most other Presidents would have dumped Rumsfeld years ago. That said, he is clearly loyal to a fault, and for whatever reason is totally resistant to dumping Cabinet members even where they've demonstrated grave incompetence and become a liability to the country. At some point loyalty crosses a line into being mere stubbornness, and I think he crossed that line long ago with Rumsfeld.

I nominate Don Vito. Feel like coming out of retirement? (I'm only half kidding - I just want a level head and your posts always reflect that you have one)

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: pickel
Being a Navy guy and not too familiar with battle and ground war, I knew many kick ass Marines when I was on active duty. Find you a good , solid mid-ranked ( Lt Col or so ) that has seen the worst fighting and doesn't give a schitt what politicians think and let him run the show. The time for being Mr. Nice Guy is OVER. Kick ass and take names or all will be lost. We shouldn't be there in the first place, but the milk is already spilled...Time to mop it up without taking all the hits those guys are having to.

Not too far from my thinking.

The basis of agreement is, Rumsfeld hasn?t given the military the correct orders to do what is necessary. Unfortunately, I do not know of many others who share my feelings and it can be guaranteed that his replacement is going to fail in this aspect as well.

When we play politics in the middle of a blood bath, it becomes us alone who takes the hits instead of our enemy. We?re more than capable if we were willing to do what was necessary.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Who should replace Rumsfeld?

Either the Walrus or the Egg Man.

coo coo cachoo

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why should the president change Rummy now? The Generals claim they like the guy. Why would you trust some stupid retired general that has not seen action in 20 years?

it never leaves you once you've been there... and there are plenty of decent General-grade officers who retired more recently. In fact, there are Generals and Admirals retiring every year who may have even seen "action" in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. any one of them should be considered for the job before another useless civilian...

Us 'useless civilians' pay your salary capt underoos. Back the fck off.

that's true, but you make horrible Secretaries of Defense... so what was your point again?

My point, and I'll type it slowly for you, was that you're insulting the people who pay your salary, a bit hypocritical. But not surprising, and just because dumbsfeld makes a crappy SoD, doesn't mean another civilian would. You're a master of conjecture and correlation.

And you don't seem to get it: I don't care if you feel insulted!! IMO, no life-long civilian will ever do as good a job as SECDEF as a retired military leader would. period.

At this point, I could only assume that you also disagree with a longtime member of academia becoming the SecEd (ie. a retired Harvard dean or Dept of Ed. director)? or perhaps a very experienced economist or FBI Director becoming the SecTreas? or an actual long-time intelligence officer becoming the National Dir of Intel, or National Security Advisor? or a long-time DoT employee becoming SecTrans? etc etc...

so feel insulted all you want, I could care less. The bottom line is that the best person for the SECDEF job will always be a retired military leader. Civlians tend to funk everything up when they try and manage the military...

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The reason most level headed people do not want a military person in there is because of the potential for favoritism for their respective branch. Shouldn't you be in Iraq, I thought you said you were serving another tour over there, you know, fighting the gwot in 1080p.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
The reason most level headed people do not want a military person in there is because of the potential for favoritism for their respective branch. Shouldn't you be in Iraq, I thought you said you were serving another tour over there, you know, fighting the gwot in 1080p.

back to the personal insults when you fail to make a point? GG...

There are plenty of retired field-grade officers who have enough integrity to be fair with all branches. Remember, integrity is one of our military's intrinsic values, moreso than any other branch of our government (including the SC).

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I retract what I said before, I suggested Clark, and he is obviously ex-military. I stand corrected. And as far as getting pissy about personal attacks, pot meet kettle, kettle, pot..

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
The reason most level headed people do not want a military person in there is because of the potential for favoritism for their respective branch. Shouldn't you be in Iraq, I thought you said you were serving another tour over there, you know, fighting the gwot in 1080p.

BF2 doesn't natively support widescreen, so its more likely 1280x1024.

 

[colonel]

Liberman

 

[Balt]

Colin Powell

Unfortunately, Bush already burned that bridge.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Foo Foo the Snu

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

I nominate Don Vito. Feel like coming out of retirement? (I'm only half kidding - I just want a level head and your posts always reflect that you have one)

Thanks, but my drunken makeout session with an enlisted paralegal will put the kibosh on that nomination!

 

[UberNeuman]

There can only be one to replace Rumsfeld...

Seinfeld.

"What is the deal with these war plans, Kramer? You've got mustard all over them!!! What is the deal!?!?!?!"

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
There can only be one to replace Rumsfeld...

Seinfeld.

"What is the deal with these war plans, Kramer? You've got mustard all over them!!! What is the deal!?!?!?!"

hehe