Who remembers the 70's when we switched to smaller cars?

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Or I could just pull the trailers with my motor home.

you should use that bad boy as your daily driver.
finally, someone would be able to "one up" those dillweeds that feel the need to take their long-bed crew-cabs to the mall or applebee's and stick three feet out of the parking space. it's always great when two of them park down the same aisle but on opposite sides 😕

😕
Do like I do. Put it in 4 low and push them out of the way.

luckily, i'm normally in my previously mentioned daily driver. it can squeeze through almost anything 🙂

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Diesel is $5.09 locally. 🙁
Can't tow my boat with a prius.
Can't tow my quads with a prius.
Can't pull tree stumps with a prius.
Can't haul lumber with a prius...

Blame the sububanite yuppies for ruining SUVs for people who actually USE them.🙁

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Or I could just pull the trailers with my motor home.

you should use that bad boy as your daily driver.
finally, someone would be able to "one up" those dillweeds that feel the need to take their long-bed crew-cabs to the mall or applebee's and stick three feet out of the parking space. it's always great when two of them park down the same aisle but on opposite sides 😕

😕
Do like I do. Put it in 4 low and push them out of the way.

:thumbsup:

Grill guard FTW.

 

[Christobevii3]

You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

And that's going to get better mileage? And where do you stick the family?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

And that's going to get better mileage? And where do you stick the family?

Maybe you should chide him because he thinks that boats float because they are light! He obviously does not understand the concept of buoyancy. My boat is 2700lbs with no gear, empty of gasoline (42 gallons), and without the trailer...even though it is merely a 19' ski boat. Let's see a 3.0L V6 Ranger pull that safely and get good mileage. Clue....the mileage sucks even more when you use an underpowered vehicle to do a job.

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

And that's going to get better mileage? And where do you stick the family?

Maybe you should chide him because he thinks that boats float because they are light! He obviously does not understand the concept of buoyancy. My boat is 2700lbs with no gear, empty of gasoline (42 gallons), and without the trailer...even though it is merely a 19' ski boat. Let's see a 3.0L V6 Ranger pull that safely and get good mileage. Clue....the mileage sucks even more when you use an underpowered vehicle to do a job.

what's worse than poor mileage is that, if your trailer weighs as much as the towing vehicle, you'll probably get pushed around when you try to stop.
perhaps boats would be lighter if they were made of very small rocks...

 

[Jessica69]

Ronstang.......I almost laughed coffee out my nose when I read the Ranger 3.0 comment above. Obviously, he's never been in one or driven on, never mind trying to tow anything over 500# with it.
I traded in a 1999 Ranger with that 3.0 V6 engine specifically because that Ranger was the most miserable, underpowered piece of crap I ever had the displeasure to own......bought an '02 Blazer with the 4.3 V6 and have been happier than a clam ever since.

We go to auctions at least weekly....mostly estate. We tow either our open trailer, 1 ton rating, or our enclosed trailer, 2.5 ton rating, to them. Buy furniture, anything that either will sell or what we are personally looking for for our house. The Ranger would barely keep 55-60 mph on the interstate towing the small trailer loaded........the Blazer can maintain 75-80 with the larger, enclosed trailer with A/C on, no problem. True, gas mileage isn't great, but for the circumstances, we can live with what we get. The Blazer does manage around 22-24mpg when not towing on the interstate at 80 mph.

Haven't seen one mini-car able to tow over 1000# yet....not to mention the sacrifice in interior room and quietness while having to put up with getting blown around the road by semi's. I think the Prius/Aveo type vehicles are great for in-town driving and if I lived in a city, something like that would be on my list of vehicles to look at when I get around to replacing one of mine. But I live rurally and 20 miles to the grocery store via 4 lane highway, frequented by large trucks, etc., make for a very daunting drive with those smaller cans out there.

Oh, and I do own a car with a 4 cyl engine.....a little 2.2L four banger. Of course, it does need premium gas......darned turbo! 😉 It's a Chrysler convert.....does manage low 20's in town, mid 30's cruising on highway with top up. Top down and mileage does suffer.

Are we going to trade the Blazer for a mini-car? Nope....haven't found one of those high mileage wonders that can tow worth a crap. Thought about the Ford and GM SUV hybrids......but since we'd be picking up car payments again....the Blazer's been paid off for about 18 months now.....and would have higher insurance premiums, the overall cost of saving gas would take about 7-10 years to equal just driving the Blazer until it quits, which appears to be none too soon.

What strikes me funny is the people who rail against anyone owning an SUV.....guess choice is not something anyone should have, at least when it's not their choice being constrained. If anyone today wants to buy a large SUV, like an Escalade or Navigator, let 'em. Not costing you a darned thing.

And I remember the 1970's oil embargo quite well....was affected by it like any other driver out there.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Diesel is $5.09 locally. 🙁
Can't tow my boat with a prius.
Can't tow my quads with a prius.
Can't pull tree stumps with a prius.
Can't haul lumber with a prius...

if you can afford a boat and quads, you can afford to have a second, more fuel efficient car.

Math: Let's assume the average 12,000 miles per year. 14mpg vs 28mpg.
That's 857 gallons for the SUV, 428.6 gallons for the car; a savings of 428.6 gallons per year. At $5 per gallon, that's $2142.8 a year savings in gas, or $178.57 savings per month. So, are you suggesting he should take on a car payment greater than $178.57 a month so that he can "save" money? Of course, the car will have some equity, but that's offset to a degree by additional insurance, taxes, annual registration, maintenance, etc.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Diesel is $5.09 locally. 🙁
Can't tow my boat with a prius.
Can't tow my quads with a prius.
Can't pull tree stumps with a prius.
Can't haul lumber with a prius...

Can't afford to pay for gas for a truck

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

Bwah-hahahahahahahahaha!!! "boats are lightweight since they do float"

Heck, I'll bet those battleships & such in the Navy only weigh a couple hundred pounds. Anything heavier and it'd probably sink! (Not that you'd tow a battleship with a Ranger; maybe an Escolade though.)

 

[bignateyk]

My driving habits havent changed at all. In fact, I just recently traded in my focus and bought an SUV, and Ive driven more in the last few months than I have in a long time.

 

[BassBomb]

I watched on CNN where some cars like Expedition which were worth 30k brand new only a year or two old down to value of 12k and people are shitting themselves when trying to trade in for a smaller car.

They were reccomending not to do so if you are paying MORE to get the small car, because the gas savings will not be well over 1000$ that you would invest in the small car.

 

[cherrytwist]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

:music: Can't tow my boat with a prius. :music:
:music: Can't tow my quads with a prius. :music:
:music: Can't pull tree stumps with a prius. :music:
:music: Can't haul lumber with a prius... :music:

Destined for multi-platinum record sales.

 

[smack Down]

yeah gas prices suck, but it will not change my driving until it get to 20 dollars a gallon.

I don't get why people whine so much about a few bucks a hour to drive a car. The time wasted driving seems much more valuable then the cash wasted so you would think people would already have limited their driving.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

An air craft carrier floats, numbnuts.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

And that's going to get better mileage? And where do you stick the family?

Maybe you should chide him because he thinks that boats float because they are light! He obviously does not understand the concept of buoyancy. My boat is 2700lbs with no gear, empty of gasoline (42 gallons), and without the trailer...even though it is merely a 19' ski boat. Let's see a 3.0L V6 Ranger pull that safely and get good mileage. Clue....the mileage sucks even more when you use an underpowered vehicle to do a job.

I have a 4.3 liter S-10, would that do it?



EDIT: As for the other discussion:
A Ticonderoga Cruiser displaces about 9800 tons. We got rid of battleships in the mid 90's and I never served on one, but they are HUGE. Much more than 9800 tons, I'm sure.
Have absolutely no clue about carriers.

EDIT 2: I drive about 3000 miles a year, so even though gas feels expensive, it really isnt breaking me.

 

[Christobevii3]

Originally posted by: Jessica69
Ronstang.......I almost laughed coffee out my nose when I read the Ranger 3.0 comment above. Obviously, he's never been in one or driven on, never mind trying to tow anything over 500# with it.

Actually, my dad owns a 2.3L ranger with a 5 speed. It has towed many things fine, including a 1996 sebring, 4 wheeler, and a boat. Roads are relatively flat in texas so power wise it isn't a big deal and it still averages 20mpg. If he needs room for his family get an explorer sport trac 4 door or whatever the truck suv thing is.

As for the blazer comment, I own a 2001 blazer 2dr with the 5.3L (yes engine swap). With a cam, headers, and upgraded valvetrain it is around 330hp and averages 22mpg, where the 4.3L v6 averaged around 18-19.

 

[Christobevii3]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

An air craft carrier floats, numbnuts.

Yes comparing a 2000lb sport boat to an air craft carrier, genious. Whats next, box of cereal to solving hunger in africa?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Christobevii3

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
You don't need a big truck to tow a boat, they are lightweight since they do float. You could easily tow a boat with a 3.0L v6 ranger.

An air craft carrier floats, numbnuts.

Yes comparing a 2000lb sport boat to an air craft carrier, genious. Whats next, box of cereal to solving hunger in africa?

Go back to lurking and save yourself the embarrassment. You truly are not up the the task.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I can't drive less. I hardly do any driving outside of my commute. However, from where I live now, and where I'm going to be living in the near future, it takes too damn long for the bus to get from home to work. The bus takes 1.5 hours versus the 30 minutes it takes if I drive myself. What I do plan on doing is buying a cheap, used, motorcycle for fuel efficiency.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: KK
Do you think that people now aren't driving less? I know I have cut back alot, every trip I make has a purpose and I don't just drive somewhere to get out of the house. If I were to put a percentage on how much I have cut back, it'd be 30-40% overall.

Good to see makes the road a lot safer place for me with less cars. I take joy rides all the time for free.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Diesel is $5.09 locally. 🙁
Can't tow my boat with a prius.
Can't tow my quads with a prius.
Can't pull tree stumps with a prius.
Can't haul lumber with a prius...

Ok, so rent a truck or SUV when you need it for those things.

How do people in other countries do things like this and still have small cars for daily use? Having a big car for a week or two of us every year doesn't make sense. If you really need to use it more often than that, then it's part of the cost of having a hobby.

Simple. It can even be done on smaller vehicles like a motorcycle or even smaller.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: BassBomb
I watched on CNN where some cars like Expedition which were worth 30k brand new only a year or two old down to value of 12k and people are shitting themselves when trying to trade in for a smaller car.

They were reccomending not to do so if you are paying MORE to get the small car, because the gas savings will not be well over 1000$ that you would invest in the small car.

Good to see. I am liking the way things are going.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: smack Down
yeah gas prices suck, but it will not change my driving until it get to 20 dollars a gallon.

I don't get why people whine so much about a few bucks a hour to drive a car. The time wasted driving seems much more valuable then the cash wasted so you would think people would already have limited their driving.

Then we surely need to get those gas prices raised to $20 a gallon then. I see it happening pretty quickly naturally.