Who remembers a time when

[lotus503]

It was frowned upon to flat out lie to get elected?

Now it appears folks generally dismiss it as part of the political process, a given if you will.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Conservatards can't tell the difference, so can you blame them?

 

[Juror No. 8]

It was frowned upon to flat out lie to get elected?

Now it appears folks generally dismiss it as part of the political process, a given if you will.

LOL. I'm not so sure that lying to get elected has ever been frowned upon in this country. It's always been "same shit, different day".

Here's the concentration camp president, Franklin Roosevelt, on the 1940 campaign trail:

I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.

LOL. And...

I am fighting to keep our people out of foreign wars. And I will keep on fighting.

LOL. And...

Your national government ... is equally a government of peace -- a government that intends to retain peace for the American people.

More LULZ. And...

The first purpose of our foreign policy is to keep our country out of war.

He was lying through his teeth and he knew it. He was just itching to get into that war in Europe, especially when you take into account the actions of his administration throughout 1941. He deliberately pursued a series of policies that was most likely to put us into military conflict with both Germany and Japan.

 

[Steeplerot]

LOL. I'm not so sure that lying to get elected has ever been frowned upon in this country. It's always been "same shit, different day".

Here's the concentration camp president, Franklin Roosevelt, on the 1940 campaign trail:

LOL. And...

LOL. And...

More LULZ. And...

He was lying through his teeth and he knew it. He was just itching to get into that war in Europe, especially when you take into account the actions of his administration throughout 1941. He deliberately pursued a series of policies that was most likely to put us into military conflict with both Germany and Japan.

Stormfront is that way ---> you conspiracy trafficking moron.

 

[Juror No. 8]

Stormfront is that way ---> you conspiracy trafficking moron.

How do you know where Stormfront is?

Oh, that's right, you worship a man who put 100,000+ innocent American citizens in concentration camps, so that means you have a lot in common with the kind of people at Stormfront, doesn't it?

 

[monovillage]

It was frowned upon to flat out lie to get elected?

Now it appears folks generally dismiss it as part of the political process, a given if you will.

I remember Kennedy lying, Johnson lying, Nixon lying, Carter lying, Reagan lying,Bush#1 lying, Clinton lying, Bush#2 lying and Obama lying.... a lot. So what's new?

I'd have to read up on Ford, sorry I couldn't recall a flat out lie from the Oatmeal man.

 

[Braznor]

A liberal is liberal only about those things he himself believes in. Anyone he disagrees with over anything is a psycho.

 

[Lemon law]

Yes tell us again, how the US concentration camp President in FDR was so opposed by a more principled Republican party at the time. As the GOP rubber stamped Japanese internment camps even faster than their democratic colleagues. As the GOP in 1944 made the Japanese internment camps the centerpiece of their 1944 bid to unseat FDR.

As for me, I so love bed time stories that end with they lived happily ever after and revisionist history, as both have equal appeal.

 

[Juror No. 8]

Yes tell us again, how the US concentration camp President in FDR was so opposed by a more principled Republican party at the time. As the GOP rubber stamped Japanese internment camps even faster than their democratic colleagues. As the GOP in 1944 made the Japanese internment camps the centerpiece of their 1944 bid to unseat FDR.

As for me, I so love bed time stories that end with they lived happily ever after and revisionist history, as both have equal appeal.

What was "revisionist" about what I said? Did Roosevelt not preside over a government that put 100,000+ innocent American citizens in concentration camps? Why would I need to mention Republicans?

How is that even relevant?

 

[IGBT]

liberals love poor people so much they create more and more of em every year. They justify this because they have no moral core. Not having a moral core is a liberals definition of freedom.

 

[Anarchist420]

Theodore Roosevelt was responsible for blowing up the Maine and he didn't even realize it. The fact that he is on mount rushmore shows how stupid the state is.

What was "revisionist" about what I said? Did Roosevelt not preside over a government that put 100,000+ innocent American citizens in concentration camps? Why would I need to mention Republicans? How is that even relevant?

I love you man

 

[bononos]

Theodore Roosevelt was responsible for blowing up the Maine and he didn't even realize it. The fact that he is on mount rushmore shows how stupid the state is.

I love you man

The above posters were talking about another Roosevelt.

 

[ichy]

Politicians have been lying since the dawn of human history. It's absurdly naive to think that things were different or that politics was a less nasty business back in the day.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Politicians have been lying since the dawn of human history.

This^

 

[dank69]

First step:

Figure out the difference between a naive promise and an outright lie.

Until you can do that, you are not qualified to determine who is lying about what.

 

[diesbudt]

Politicians have been lying since the dawn of human history. It's absurdly naive to think that things were different or that politics was a less nasty business back in the day.

The athens council lied to get things done.
The Roman democracy (before the trium. and empire of Agustus Caesar) lied to get certain positions passed.


Only difference is, back in the day. Senators were responsible for their voice and could be silenced by the people. By force or loss of payment.

Today? psh we can't even lift a finger against the government w/o having they bring out some FBI/military task force to prevent us from doing so.

 

[nehalem256]

liberals love poor people so much they create more and more of em every year. They justify this because they have no moral core. Not having a moral core is a liberals definition of freedom.

:thumbsup:

If they don't create more poor how will then get votes?

Yes tell us again, how the US concentration camp President in FDR was so opposed by a more principled Republican party at the time. As the GOP rubber stamped Japanese internment camps even faster than their democratic colleagues. As the GOP in 1944 made the Japanese internment camps the centerpiece of their 1944 bid to unseat FDR.

As for me, I so love bed time stories that end with they lived happily ever after and revisionist history, as both have equal appeal.

You mean the same way Democrats made Bush's handling of the housing bubble the centerpiece of their 2004 campaign?

 

[Matt1970]

Conservatards can't tell the difference, so can you blame them?

Wrong, we spotted all the lies Obama told in 2008.

 

[IBMer]

There is a difference between lies and ignorant promises.

Saying I never asked for stimulus money is a lie if you did indeed ask for stimulus money.

Saying that you plan to close down GITMO and then face a lot of opposition once your in office is an ignorant promise.

 

[Matt1970]

There is a difference between lies and ignorant promises.

Saying I never asked for stimulus money is a lie if you did indeed ask for stimulus money.

Saying that you plan to close down GITMO and then face a lot of opposition once your in office is an ignorant promise.

Saying you will end earmarks and then don't, it's a LIE.
Saying I will not hire lobyists and then do, it's a LIE.
Saying I will give every bill 5 days before he signs then and then doesn't, it's a LIE.
Saying he will bring the troops home from Iraq in 2009 and then doesn't till 2010, it's a LIE.
Saying you will keep a factory open if the government help and then he doesn't, it's a LIE.
Saying he will balance the budget in 4 years and then not even attempt to, it's a LIE.

And on, and on, and on.......

 

[Nemesis 1]

LOL. I'm not so sure that lying to get elected has ever been frowned upon in this country. It's always been "same shit, different day".

Here's the concentration camp president, Franklin Roosevelt, on the 1940 campaign trail:

LOL. And...

LOL. And...

More LULZ. And...

He was lying through his teeth and he knew it. He was just itching to get into that war in Europe, especially when you take into account the actions of his administration throughout 1941. He deliberately pursued a series of policies that was most likely to put us into military conflict with both Germany and Japan.

After 1913 deal between Rothschild and the Britts to create a new Jewish State and Taking over the US Money supply in the same year there plan could be fully realized . The second WW and 1, Was fought for many reasons but it was financed by the Same Family . By this time WW2 the Rothschild already controlled Both the Britts and Germanies Money supply . The US hadn't fallen yet. Germanies Rothschilds were in NO CAMPS EVER. Why is that????? Why wasn't Israel created earlier, Bible prophecy . Men would try to fulfill prophecy . that was 1 prophecy concerning these events the other prophecy was this will be the last generation That generation would be the generation that Israel was reborn .
The other part of their plan was to draw the US into the War . So the Us would have WAR debt , And Become a player in the formation of the United Nations and to keep the US involved in Europe . Its always a demon at the helm when this occurs ALWAYS no exceptions. After the murder of JFK and LBJJs repeal of bill 11110 there was only one step left to the take over of America by the Rothschild . Nixon in 71 took that step and took US off the Gold standard . Now we are at the cross roads where were broke because of treasonious leaders since JFK , Last step we lose our sovernity and the NWO dream is reliezed but vary vary short lived . 3 1/2 years

 

[dank69]

Saying you will end earmarks and then don't, it's a LIE.
Saying I will not hire lobyists and then do, it's a LIE.
Saying I will give every bill 5 days before he signs then and then doesn't, it's a LIE.
Saying he will bring the troops home from Iraq in 2009 and then doesn't till 2010, it's a LIE.
Saying you will keep a factory open if the government help and then he doesn't, it's a LIE.
Saying he will balance the budget in 4 years and then not even attempt to, it's a LIE.

And on, and on, and on.......

Like I said, can't even tell the difference.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Politicians have been lying since the dawn of human history. It's absurdly naive to think that things were different or that politics was a less nasty business back in the day.

This^

Anyone who thinks otherwise is profoundly ignorant of history.

/thread

 

[Nemesis 1]

There is a difference between lies and ignorant promises.

Saying I never asked for stimulus money is a lie if you did indeed ask for stimulus money.

Saying that you plan to close down GITMO and then face a lot of opposition once your in office is an ignorant promise.

The demons controlled everthing both houses on the GITMO. So no effort was made because his promise was an out and out lie. Revisionist history much.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Saying you will end earmarks and then don't, it's a LIE.
Saying I will not hire lobyists and then do, it's a LIE.
Saying I will give every bill 5 days before he signs then and then doesn't, it's a LIE.
Saying he will bring the troops home from Iraq in 2009 and then doesn't till 2010, it's a LIE.
Saying you will keep a factory open if the government help and then he doesn't, it's a LIE.
Saying he will balance the budget in 4 years and then not even attempt to, it's a LIE.

And on, and on, and on.......

You left out transparancy . You left out he promised 1 term if he didn't cut deficiet. Obummer is incapable of telling the truth it goes against his nature, Same applies to Romney . Romney even got the Mormons to revise history for him . I have proof of that. Inthe time line . Watch the video watch the monie . Pay close attention to time lines and were the lie was installed. Mormons must not have liked this much as they clearly put the conflicting dates in the movie .