You don't let your 80 year old, clueless granny install or configure Windows either. All you do is explain which of those icons on the desktop to click to get what program. How is that different from putting an installed Linux or BSD machine on her table and showing her which icons to click? Except that you don't have to explain blue screens of death to her? And that she won't be sending all her (grand)children the latest Yaha versions? And that she doesn't have to pay for the OS and Office software?
P.S. To the guy whining that BSODs are caused by bad drivers instead of by Microsoft: Try running Microsoft Dungeon Siege on Microsoft Windows XP.
TheUnhappyCamper:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!G E T A L I F E!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me guess, 100% of the DS players have that?
Cause I do not know a single DS player who has never had a crash (at least multi player, single player was too boring).
Also strange that bad 3rd party drivers are only bad in Dungeon Siege, and not in Wolfenstein for example (or anything else for that matter).
It is a commonly known problem in DS and the first patch is still in beta stadium (and causes more problems than it fixes).
Edit: As far as I know it will crash no matter what OS you run it under, but as most people seem to think XP is the most stable OS made by Microsoft (personally I think Windows 2000 SP 2 is more stable, but still...) they tend to be more impressed with a Windows XP crash than a Windows 3.11 crash.
Man... that almost lined up... nice try.
I support them... they're do good things for the most part. =)
-geoff
Words of wisdom...well...except that last part
Linux would be much easier to learn if you didn't come into it with your knowledge of windows. If you were referring to me, then please do go ahead and quote me. I don't mind
However, please be sure to point out where I was whining. As far as running "Microsoft Dungeon Siege", why should I? Did I, in this whole thread, mention any software other than the Operating System(s)? If the particular piece of software is crashing, then get in touch with the respected people who are responsible for it.I have no idea why people think that those who 'support' Microsoft are living in a clueless world where they don't know about MS's faults and problems. We do. OK?
One of the biggest reasons I support MS is that they have superior products (mostly) and basically started it all. One of the other main reasons that I support MS is that I will not support such companies that just act like whiny little bitches cuz their software didn't get packaged with another company's product (duh) and I don't have to take 246928374029876092834 years trying to learn a whole nother opperating system.
nik
nik
Let's see what they started: Graphical interface? No. Internet? No. (Bill Gates didn't even believe it would be succesful) Web browsers? No. Good, stable products with decent manuals and support which are released when planned? Yeah right...
Let's see what they DID start in the software world: Aggressive marketing, destroying competitors who have better products at that time, forcing computer resellers not to support other software, DRM, etc...
dude, not to be a jerk or anything, but you sound like a big dork.
you need to get out and enjoy life's other treats more, girls, parties, and girls. i say this because if you don't start doing that suff now, when you hit about 19-20 years old, you will be kicking your self in the ass, (i know i am).
i used to be in a similar situation as you are, programming C++ and helping with a friends website company. i never realized how much MORE fun i could have had. just don't get carried away, there is a fine balance between work and play that needs to be managed inorder to stay on the right track.
the time is right, seize your youth, have fun. hard work is for when you are old. the bragging rights you get for what you have accomplished thus far is only fake happiness.
i'm going to be 21 in less than a month and will be graduating this spring with a computer engineering degree. just in this past year i've finally realized that life is about having fun and, oh yeah, and girls
oh, and i support whatever company runs my games faster.
you need to get out and enjoy life's other treats more, girls, parties, and girls. i say this because if you don't start doing that suff now, when you hit about 19-20 years old, you will be kicking your self in the ass, (i know i am).
i used to be in a similar situation as you are, programming C++ and helping with a friends website company. i never realized how much MORE fun i could have had. just don't get carried away, there is a fine balance between work and play that needs to be managed inorder to stay on the right track.
the time is right, seize your youth, have fun. hard work is for when you are old. the bragging rights you get for what you have accomplished thus far is only fake happiness.
i'm going to be 21 in less than a month and will be graduating this spring with a computer engineering degree. just in this past year i've finally realized that life is about having fun and, oh yeah, and girls
oh, and i support whatever company runs my games faster.
This is soooo true, MS has never acutally done a thing for the industry.... they have bought others ideas incorporated them into their own product...
MS products ARE buggy... there really should be no doubt about that... they even brag about how this hotfix or that fixes more than 500+ problems...
Linux is a core, around this core this mini-core you can have what you need, in Winblows you get everything you do not need... THAT is a fact...
If you want to have the most stable OS, Winblows... well, it isn't it, and i have a feeling that more and more people are realizing this, IBM is the first one out, i think others will follow... by 2020 MS will either be history or supporting Linux...
TheUnhappyCamper, dont even make me remind you of this thread where you made a complete ass of yourself.
<snicker>
<snicker>
Too bad, you already reminded me... And why?
I thought it was a threat.... it's a bit unfair when you get a threat and the action of the forementioned threat in one message....
I thought it was a threat.... it's a bit unfair when you get a threat and the action of the forementioned threat in one message....
Originally posted by: Lucky
TheUnhappyCamper, dont even make me remind you of this thread where you made a complete ass of yourself.
<snicker>
I think he's way beyond that point in this thread
I don't see how I can get a "life" living here. I have no means of transportation except for my parents driving me wherever and there is absolutely NOTHING to do here. There is NOTHING within a 20 mile radius plus the ratio of interesting, smart people I could hang out with to the rest of the people is like 1:500; considering how many are my age - none, and how many people there are in this town - about 2500 in the city and beyond the city limits at most. So really, all I can do is mess around the house and outside, do my computer stuff or watch TV, which is my last option unless there's something really good on.
Fritzo
Lifer
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Hey! It's one of those kids from that movie "Baby Geniuses!!!" Telling your Grandma what to click on to get her email is not tech support.
Fritzo
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Originally posted by: singh
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: singh
Because I'm a programmer - I have much more control over the OS than say, a user
That's one of the things I don't like about Windows. You have to write an entire program (a BINARY program, since Windows doesn't have a decent scripting system) just to make a simple tweak that would be done in Linux by editing a config file.
Ever heard of VBScript?
WHat kind of tweak are you talking here? Most shell tweaks can be done with registry entries.
I consider tech support being answering questions and helping with things on the level of what most "tech support" people have to deal with (and most of these "tech support" people are idiots). And if you disagree please tell me so.
You are a tech support person, and such persons are idiots? Hmmm... do i disagree... well yeah, i don't think you are an idiot...
You just posted an idiotic topic... because why support a company who doesn't care, they will TAKE what they want with dirty business methods... why support it?
Fritzo
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WHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAAA........man, I gotta write that one down! That's the funniest thing I've read all week! I think you're done with your argument because the last leg you were standing on was kicked out from underneath you.
Now, I gotta get back to creating my own drivers so my video card and CD writer will work in Linux
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