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desy

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Jan 13, 2000
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Oh he is in so much sh1t.
Hes' the one going to pay for vigilante crimes.
Threateing to rape is different than raping and you can't commit murder for a property crime if the suspects are no longer a danger to you.
Public opinion may be on his side but he's gonna get hammered.
 
iamwiz82

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: desy
Oh he is in so much sh1t.
Hes' the one going to pay for vigilante crimes.
Threateing to rape is different than raping and you can't commit murder for a property crime if the suspects are no longer a danger to you.
Public opinion may be on his side but he's gonna get hammered.
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Trial by jury stocked with parents and he'll get off.
 
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Howard

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: desy
Oh he is in so much sh1t.
Hes' the one going to pay for vigilante crimes.
Threateing to rape is different than raping and you can't commit murder for a property crime if the suspects are no longer a danger to you.
Public opinion may be on his side but he's gonna get hammered.
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Let's hope not. We don't need kids like that.
 
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MercenaryForHire

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Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: desy
Oh he is in so much sh1t.
Hes' the one going to pay for vigilante crimes.
Threateing to rape is different than raping and you can't commit murder for a property crime if the suspects are no longer a danger to you.
Public opinion may be on his side but he's gonna get hammered.
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As soon as they started firing at him, the property crime isn't the question. His life was in danger. And frankly, if "Durango" is an option for a method of protecting myself, I'm going to be polishing bits of that little punk off my grill. :p

But they left out the important part.

Did it have a Hemi in it? :D

- M4H
 
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desy

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Yeah but the reason they are building charges against him, the article said so, is because they criminals left, and he could have got into his house phoned the police give descriptions of vehicles, suspects and so on, and let the police handle it from there.
To give chase against ARMED thugs when your already safe, and then kill them makes him a vigilante
And that is how the law will treat him.
As a father myself, I'd let my insurance pay me back what was stolen and not endanger myself for the sake of my family. I mean one bullet through the window and my kids are orphaned?
 
Toastedlightly

Toastedlightly

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Originally posted by: desy
Yeah but the reason they are building charges against him, the article said so, is because they criminals left, and he could have got into his house phoned the police give descriptions of vehicles, suspects and so on, and let the police handle it from there.
To give chase against ARMED thugs when your already safe, and then kill them makes him a vigilante
And that is how the law will treat him.
As a father myself, I'd let my insurance pay me back what was stolen and not endanger myself for the sake of my family. I mean one bullet through the window and my kids are orphaned?
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It says that he thought they would come back to his house... I feel that is a good enogh reason to go vigilante... but still not legal. Oh well, more powe to 'im.
 
bunker

bunker

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As glad as I am he did this I have to agree with desy. This guy's in for a world of hurt.
 
halik

halik

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Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Originally posted by: desy
Yeah but the reason they are building charges against him, the article said so, is because they criminals left, and he could have got into his house phoned the police give descriptions of vehicles, suspects and so on, and let the police handle it from there.
To give chase against ARMED thugs when your already safe, and then kill them makes him a vigilante
And that is how the law will treat him.
As a father myself, I'd let my insurance pay me back what was stolen and not endanger myself for the sake of my family. I mean one bullet through the window and my kids are orphaned?
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It says that he thought they would come back to his house... I feel that is a good enogh reason to go vigilante... but still not legal. Oh well, more powe to 'im.
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that plus his story of ducking behind the dash because he was fired on... i find it hard to believe that a jury would convict him of anything. I mean you do need a unanimous decision after all and theres bound to be at least one parent that will symphatize with him.
 
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Ime

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No jury will convict a man for protecting his daughters. Those punks had it coming!
 
iamme

iamme

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i hope he gets off and good riddance to the scumbag.

edit:

Gibson and a 15-year-old partner were arrested and charged with armed robbery and possession of a weapon. The two may be charged with felony homicide because of their accomplice's death, Medina said.
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so his fellow robbers are going to be charged for their friend's death? :confused: :laugh:
 
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desy

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The state will then argue that he and his kids could have gone to the neighbours to make the phone call even if he didn't feel secure in his own home.
Bottom line is they left, leaving him an opportunity to escape.
He then chose to put himself in further danger by running them down. Not self defense.

I can understand the guy being angry and why he did it, but I found it stupid to risk everything over money ? especially as a family man.

 
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T2T III

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
who carries $1,500 in cash in TRENTON NJ????
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I have to question anyone who carries $1,500 in cash, regardless of where they are. Just plain stupid logic if you ask me.

 
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MercenaryForHire

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Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: desy
The state will then argue that he and his kids could have gone to the neighbours to make the phone call even if he didn't feel secure in his own home.
Bottom line is they left, leaving him an opportunity to escape.
He then chose to put himself in further danger by running them down. Not self defense.

I can understand the guy being angry and why he did it, but I found it stupid to risk everything over money ? especially as a family man.
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O'Neal, a single father, said he wasn't worried so much about the money and credit cards. He said he was scared the robbers would return and make good on their promise to hurt his precious daughters.
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Are you not reading the fscking article? They threatened to rape his daughters, and that's what set him off. And rightfully so.

- M4H
 
halik

halik

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Originally posted by: desy
The state will then argue that he and his kids could have gone to the neighbours to make the phone call even if he didn't feel secure in his own home.
Bottom line is they left, leaving him an opportunity to escape.
He then chose to put himself in further danger by running them down. Not self defense.

I can understand the guy being angry and why he did it, but I found it stupid to risk everything over money ? especially as a family man.
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very easy to counter :

he wanted the men apprehended seeing as their threads dont have expiration dates. It's not like they said we will come back in 2 hours and rape your daughters. They can come back whenever

Not to mention he's got pretty solid defense on running the guy down - he was getting shot at and ducked under the dash.
 
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