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Who killed the CNG car?

Well Honda's throwing money at hydrogen powered cars now right? Natural Gas stands in the way of that. So I don't think it's that they're not being green, I think they're trying to ensure they can sell hydrogen powered cars with 0 emissions.
 
This tech has been around for what 25 years? I cannot recall ever seeing a gas station that had CNG, but I do remember a pickup truck (I think it was an 85 chevy) that could run on Propane, CNG or gas. It never worked very well, the truck would run fine on Propane, but would it would cost MORE to run it, and would get way less MPG. IIRC the only way to run it on CNG was to get a special pump and fill it up at your house ...I'm betting its way too expensive to try and maintain the pumps for no real gain.
 
Yeah we had a Chevy Astro van here at work that used CNG. They had a special pump by our gas pumps to fill the tank. I think the reason for that is the natural gas lines that run to your house for example are at a lower pressure than what is required to fill the tank in the car. You need a compressor to increase the pressure to fill the tank.

But yeah, that little van only had about a 100 mile range before you had to refill it so you weren't get far on a tank. It used to sound like a camp stove when you stepped on the gas too, lol.
 
Originally posted by: lurk3r
This tech has been around for what 25 years? I cannot recall ever seeing a gas station that had CNG, but I do remember a pickup truck (I think it was an 85 chevy) that could run on Propane, CNG or gas. It never worked very well, the truck would run fine on Propane, but would it would cost MORE to run it, and would get way less MPG. IIRC the only way to run it on CNG was to get a special pump and fill it up at your house ...I'm betting its way too expensive to try and maintain the pumps for no real gain.
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The only NG stations I've ever seen are in pictures.

I believe in south america there are some places that have pretty ubiquitous NG transportation systems, but in the US it has never gotten off the ground and shows no signs of doing so, moves by Honda or not.

Anyway, that article is fvcking horsesh*t. I stopped half way through. ENDLESS "allegations" against Honda and at least half way through not a single actual word from anybody who worked there or any other side of the story. Endless inuendo and conspiracy assertions FTL.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: lurk3r
This tech has been around for what 25 years? I cannot recall ever seeing a gas station that had CNG, but I do remember a pickup truck (I think it was an 85 chevy) that could run on Propane, CNG or gas. It never worked very well, the truck would run fine on Propane, but would it would cost MORE to run it, and would get way less MPG. IIRC the only way to run it on CNG was to get a special pump and fill it up at your house ...I'm betting its way too expensive to try and maintain the pumps for no real gain.
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The only NG stations I've ever seen are in pictures.

I believe in south america there are some places that have pretty ubiquitous NG transportation systems, but in the US it has never gotten off the ground and shows no signs of doing so, moves by Honda or not.

Anyway, that article is fvcking horsesh*t. I stopped half way through. ENDLESS "allegations" against Honda and at least half way through not a single actual word from anybody who worked there or any other side of the story. Endless inuendo and conspiracy assertions FTL.
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I lived in Colombia, South America, and the majority of the taxi system is CNG-based. It's actually pretty fascinatiing to see a regular gasoline station then a flock of taxis at the CNG adjacent to it.
 
More natural gas in the ground than oil. And it burns relatively clean as well. Fail on Honda's part. They'd rather invest in springing up hydrogen charging stations.
 
The editorial slant of that site is so obvious and extreme I wouldn't trust that any story from them accurately reflects the situation.

-KeithP
 
Originally posted by: KeithP
The editorial slant of that site is so obvious and extreme I wouldn't trust that any story from them accurately reflects the situation.

-KeithP
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Just because they have a slant doesn't mean they aren't factually right though.
Plus if it was GM, it would be getting raked over the coals right now like it was with EV1.
 
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
i don't care how many little green decals you put on a bus, cng is a poor energy source for motor vehicles.
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You fool, if we've learned anything from ricers, it's that stickers and decals add horsepower.
 
Half the buses here are CNG, but iirc it uses more space per amount of energy than LPG.

Anyways, LPG vehicles are very common here (all taxis are I6 Falcons or Commodores with the dual fuel LPG setup (from the factory, as I understand it). You see lots of private LPG vehicles too (both converted and LPG fitted from the factory).
 
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
i don't care how many little green decals you put on a bus, cng is a poor energy source for motor vehicles.
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Why? It burns cleaner than gas, much less deposits and things from combustion.

 
author seems so biased he shouldn't be allowed to publish anymore articles.
seems like he has some type of motive, or under special instructions from the boss to write like that.

IMO Honda is only doing anything they can to maximize their revenue; and spending money on new R&D during a recession isn't necessary for them.
 
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
author seems so biased he shouldn't be allowed to publish anymore articles.
seems like he has some type of motive, or under special instructions from the boss to write like that.

IMO Honda is only doing anything they can to maximize their revenue; and spending money on new R&D during a recession isn't necessary for them.
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Did you say the author was biased?
 
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
author seems so biased he shouldn't be allowed to publish anymore articles.
seems like he has some type of motive, or under special instructions from the boss to write like that.

IMO Honda is only doing anything they can to maximize their revenue; and spending money on new R&D during a recession isn't necessary for them.
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Did you say the author was biased?
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I almost fell off my chair after reading that post
 
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
author seems so biased he shouldn't be allowed to publish anymore articles.
seems like he has some type of motive, or under special instructions from the boss to write like that.

IMO Honda is only doing anything they can to maximize their revenue; and spending money on new R&D during a recession isn't necessary for them.
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Did you say the author was biased?
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I almost fell off my chair after reading that post
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I had to seriously reconsider my position when I saw I was on fanboi's side, but I still maintain my view that YOU CANNOT KILL THAT WHICH HAS NO LIFE. Stopping funding on a technology that has failed is not the same as showing up with towtrucks to reclaim vehicles people want.
 
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