Who is, was the best running back in the NFL?

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Dragnov

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I've never seen Walter Payton in action, but I think Barry Sanders is the best out of the other group. He didn't just break tackles and make people miss... he embarassed them.
 

tcsenter

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I've never seen Walter Payton in action, but I think Barry Sanders is the best out of the other group. He didn't just break tackles and make people miss... he embarassed them.
I fear a lot of people here have never seen Walter Payton in action, if they did, the results would be unanimous. Yes, he was that good. If you ever get a chance, there is a Payton highlight tape floating around somewhere, I watched it 10+ years ago. 90 minutes of Payton showing that he could not only use gymnastic grace and speed, but when that wouldn't work, taking tacklers head-on two and three at a time, and sticking them hard.
 

Zebo

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I think it boils down to what type of runner you like.

Power- No doubt Jim Brown or Earl Cambell
Agility and grace- No doubt Barry Sanders or Gale Sayers

Good at both but not perfect- Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson and Emmitt Smith.
 

diamondgoat53

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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
I think it boils down to what type of runner you like.

Power- No doubt Jim Brown or Earl Cambell
Agility and grace- No doubt Barry Sanders or Gale Sayers

Good at both but not perfect- Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson and Emmitt Smith.



ok, anyone who has the single most out of context ever quote in their sig is not allowed to comment. let's kill all the lawyers? was that a criminal saying that? someone who was up to no good? jeebus, what a bunch of half-educated doofuses here. if Barry sanders was the best, why did he come out on the goal-line? you kids have no sense of history. no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE, compares to Brown. period. ask Emmitt. look up Payton's quotes.
 

tcsenter

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ok, anyone who has the single most out of context ever quote in their sig is not allowed to comment. let's kill all the lawyers? was that a criminal saying that? someone who was up to no good? jeebus, what a bunch of half-educated doofuses here.
Shakespear really despised lawyers.
 

Dragnov

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Originally posted by: diamondgoat53
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
I think it boils down to what type of runner you like.

Power- No doubt Jim Brown or Earl Cambell
Agility and grace- No doubt Barry Sanders or Gale Sayers

Good at both but not perfect- Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson and Emmitt Smith.



ok, anyone who has the single most out of context ever quote in their sig is not allowed to comment. let's kill all the lawyers? was that a criminal saying that? someone who was up to no good? jeebus, what a bunch of half-educated doofuses here. if Barry sanders was the best, why did he come out on the goal-line? you kids have no sense of history. no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE, compares to Brown. period. ask Emmitt. look up Payton's quotes.

I'm sorry for being so stupid and having no sense of history. I'm so sorry I wasn't born yet. After all, football history is a #1 priority in my life.
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Zebo

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Originally posted by: diamondgoat53
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
I think it boils down to what type of runner you like.

Power- No doubt Jim Brown or Earl Cambell
Agility and grace- No doubt Barry Sanders or Gale Sayers

Good at both but not perfect- Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson and Emmitt Smith.



ok, anyone who has the single most out of context ever quote in their sig is not allowed to comment. let's kill all the lawyers? was that a criminal saying that? someone who was up to no good? jeebus, what a bunch of half-educated doofuses here. if Barry sanders was the best, why did he come out on the goal-line? you kids have no sense of history. no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE, compares to Brown. period. ask Emmitt. look up Payton's quotes.

Doosfus? Young? Uneducated? Wrong on all counts dumbass shitmouth. As for Brown I can't say.

And you should re-read Henry IV if you think it was'nt intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution.


 

diamondgoat53

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nope, not wrong. as for shitmouth, leave your perversions out of this. i should re-read it? i think you should read it for the first time. if you are actually saying that your sig is not out of context, you're more undereducated than i first thought. which would be nearly impossible. doofus? yes. young? maybe not, but at least that would be an excuse.
 

spanky

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my vote goes for barry. and even tho his career ended so early, i think bo jackson needs to be mentioned :)
 

broon

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This is actually a rediculous question. Emmitt was great partly because of his line. Davis was the same. Sanders was great but didn't have the numbers some others have. But there's no way to really tell. There are too many factors to take into consideration.

But I also think Montana was overrated along with Elway.

Now basketball. Jordan is the greatest to ever play.

But I don't like basketball.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: diamondgoat53
nope, not wrong. as for shitmouth, leave your perversions out of this. i should re-read it? i think you should read it for the first time. if you are actually saying that your sig is not out of context, you're more undereducated than i first thought. which would be nearly impossible. doofus? yes. young? maybe not, but at least that would be an excuse.

I see, you're one of those who thinks he was paying homage. That's fine, but I disagree plus it serves a dual purpose.
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BD231

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My nod would go to Sanders, he was like marshal faulk but with a much better body, fought like crazy for the yeards despite the fact that he was tinny. I think Walter Payton, Jim Brown and Sanders are all # 1, there are simply to many missleading factors to make a solid choice. Emit Smith is still breaking 30+ yard gains AND breaking tackles at the age of 35, I dont think you people really know how hard it is to do something like that. Most Corner backs and Safety's are faster than their own teams wide receivers, these guy's are beyond physically fit and to say Emmit Smith was never a key in his own success is bullsh*t, it's not possible for a team's running game to completely ride on its line, and it is not possible for a no tallent ass clown to just waltz into the NFL and start breaking records.
 

ndee

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OK, I have no clue about NFL Football but I know some names. Why did Barry Sanders quit? Wasn't he kinda young?
 

LH

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Uh. Sanders wasnt young. Now a days most running backs start for 3-4 years tops. There arent to many running backs that play as a starter for as long as Sanders and Smith have.

People really do need to give Smith credit, hes been in the league 13 years, thats a hell of alot of wear and tear, and last Sunday he broke that 30 yard run, with very bad offensive line.

You gotta be a talented running back in the NFL if you are 5'9 and 200lbs. Period. Smith has plenty of talent, he has also had plenty of help, which accounts for his 3 super bowl rings.
 

spanky

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Originally posted by: ndee
OK, I have no clue about NFL Football but I know some names. Why did Barry Sanders quit? Wasn't he kinda young?

i think he was sick of playing for a losing team and just wanted to go out on his own terms (ie - not go out becuz of injuries or forced outta town for cap reasons --> see jerry rice)
 

Snipa

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I've seen plenty of highlights of Payton and seen plenty of games/highlights of Barry.

It's really hard to say in my opinion.

As far as the "total package" I guess I'd give the nod to Payton. He could dance, move, dodge and when that didn't work he ran over people.

Barry was more agile and more of a "finesse" (sp?) runner.

Both players were very fun to watch. But even with Payton's "sweet" style of running, I never remember him embarrassing people the way Barry did. Barry just made players look dumb on the field. I've seen several interviews of opposing players talking about hating having to play against Barry because they didn't want to get embarrassed all day on national television. I don't recall to many other interviews of that nature about other players. Sure opposing players would say so-and-so was tough and hit hard, or was really good or hard to stop.....but never that they were scared of being embarrassed.

Barry also used to warm up before a game by doing reps with 600+ lbs on squats. Just for a pre-game warmup to loosen and get blood flowing to his legs.


So all-in-all I still couldn't come to a decision. Flip a coin for the greatest.

But in my book, the most fun to watch was definitely Barry. And if he would of had a line like Emmit had, there is no telling what he could have accomplished. Because lets face it, his line sucked for most of his career. More than half the time he would already have to start dodging people in the backfield and he still made awesome gains.
 

newbiepcuser

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Barry Sanders

Poetry in motion.

bo jackson, who knows where he could of ranked.

Jim Brown should be ranked up there also.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Barry Sanders is the best pure runner. The man could pull of moves that were physically impossible for any other human being. :)

Walter Payton and Emmitt Smith are the most productive runners. Numbers, over many years, don't lie.
 

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How can you possibly talk Greatest running back w/o including OJ Simpson.

I'd take OJ over emmit, barry or payton.

IMO brown is the only one clearly better than OJ.
 

murphy55d

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Sanders is the best pure runner all time IMO.

right now the best PURE runner may be LaDainian Tomlinson. He is incredible.

(note, I didn't say Marshall Faulk because he's not the best PURE runner. he's a lethal RB but a good bit of that is because his hands are so good he could probably play WR, it's not just because he will run all over you. im speaking strictly running ability)
 

ATLien247

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Emmitt Smith is the best running back of all time once he breaks Walter Payton's career rushing yards record... and that's all there is to it!

They both played the same number of seasons (thus far): 13

While Payton was able to establish the record on less carries, Emmitt has more touchdowns and more Super Bowl rings.

Oh, and Emmitt is only 33 years old, BTW...