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Who is the "third" manufacturer?

In the concluding paragraph of his ATi Radeon 8500LE vs. nVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 review, Anand writes:

This is the perfect example of where competition truly brings us better choices in a market, it'll be interesting to see what happens if a capable third manufacturer returns to the scene. With DirectX 9 on the horizon the major hardware firms are diligently at work on their next-generation GPUs, from R300 to NV30 to something else being shown now behind closed doors - as usual, the graphics market always keeps us busy. Stay tuned.

Any guesses? I bet Anand has Matrox's new part in his hot, little hands! NFS4, you seen it?
 


<< He was talking in theory not what IS going to happen. >>



I don't think so. Anand is an insider; he knows what is going to happen.
 
he said 'If a capable third manufacturer returns to the scene..."

Which means he's referring to the way things used to be wth 3dfx/ATI/Nvidia. He never insinuated that any company WAS going to release a card to compete and quite frankly I doubt ANYONE can compete with ATi and Nvidia's cards at the present time without upping the current technology by 3 generations. This alone would be required not only to beat them in FPS but in IQ, 2D clarity and quality, DVD playback and TV outut.
 
Another reasons you'd have to release a card 3 generations ahead would be because ATi and Nvidia always release 2 revisions of Videocard every year.
 
this was discussed in the parhelia thread, but i'll give a quick run-down

1)matrox - very likely, we've had comments from johan over at ace's, rumors at murc (which is a generally reliable source) plus it would be a return
2)bitboys - could be, they've had test silicon, but it wouldn't be a return engagement since no product of theirs has hit retail
3)kyro3 - rumored last year to be out in early 2k2, the company is in some trouble right now as to its future, what with via merger talks and all
4)via/s3 - could be, but then again they are rumored to be in talks for the kyro line
5)3dlabs/creative - certainly capable, but they've already said that their part is definite 4th quarter material
6)trident - they have a compelling part for notebooks right now, with dx8 capabilites and tons of bandwidth, but NDA has expired on it, unless they have seperate desktop and laptop NDAs. plus, they've never been in the 3d gaming market, so it really wouldn't be a return
7)number nine - do they still exist?


as for IQ and vga voltage, matrox was always king of that sort of thing, and as for tv out, they do have the marvel, not that tv out or vga voltage on nvidia boards has usually had anything to do with nvidia. plus the speed upgrade that nvidia has put out for the last two performance chips has not been a generational change. matrox has played the speed differentiation game in the past, and rumor is that they'll do it again assuming parhelia comes out.
 


<< 2)bitboys - could be, they've had test silicon, but it wouldn't be a return engagement since no product of theirs has hit retail >>



Actually, that's NOT true. They've had a product called Pyramid3D that they've had in retail stores. However, it was a bomb and no one remembers it today anymore, obviously. So it COULD be them.
 
didn't the company marketing pyramid3d go belly up before it got on shelves?


i wonder if you could find that on ebay if you looked all the time...?
 


<< 7)number nine - do they still exist? >>

Number 9 was purchased by S3, and then closed down along with Diamond/Orchid/Micronics.
 


<< It's Matrox.

PR within 1.5 mos. Retail by summer. 😀

amish
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still bloody too long, and I think my g400 is starting to fail 🙁 or its just hl that is bugging me.. or something else :frown:
 
From the front page...



<< Off to San Fran for something special

Admittedly this week didn't go as planned with the GeForce4 Ti roundup still unfinished. Today I'll be hopping on a plane to head off to San Francisco to meet with a company we haven't heard much from in a while. Hopefully I'll see something that makes my 7 awake hours in San Francisco well worth it and exactly 24 hours from now I'll be standing in an airport waiting to head back. The short trip caused me to finish up a lot of things that I would normally have Thursday/Friday to do but because of that I've had to put a lot of testing on hold. Needless to say, as soon as I land I'll start testing again.
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Gee, I wonder what it could be😉
 


<< From the front page...



<< Off to San Fran for something special

Admittedly this week didn't go as planned with the GeForce4 Ti roundup still unfinished. Today I'll be hopping on a plane to head off to San Francisco to meet with a company we haven't heard much from in a while. Hopefully I'll see something that makes my 7 awake hours in San Francisco well worth it and exactly 24 hours from now I'll be standing in an airport waiting to head back. The short trip caused me to finish up a lot of things that I would normally have Thursday/Friday to do but because of that I've had to put a lot of testing on hold. Needless to say, as soon as I land I'll start testing again.
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Gee, I wonder what it could be😉
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If you look carefully, he is NOT talking about video cards for sure. It could be anyone in any hardware field...
 
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