Who is picking up thier new ipad air today??

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HeXen

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I may wait until after Xmas to get mine. I have the Ipad 1 and in a way I feel guilty for upgrading something I really don't need. The only feature I'll use is the higher resolution for reading since that's all I do with the original anyway.
 

bearxor

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For trading in your old iPad and getting a new one for $280, it's a no brainer upgrade for you. The new one is heads and tails above the first gen.

Finally got a chance to fondle one today. I'm going to go take my wife's iPad 2 and my old iPad 1 and trade them in to get her a new Air. Should get me $400 on credit and make it a pretty painless upgrade.
 

Eug

Lifer
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I may wait until after Xmas to get mine. I have the Ipad 1 and in a way I feel guilty for upgrading something I really don't need. The only feature I'll use is the higher resolution for reading since that's all I do with the original anyway.

That's crazy talk. Get the $200 GC while you can and just buy the iPad Air. Or else consider the mini Retina.

Or else just get the GC and get cheap Target clothes or whatever. There is absolutely no reason to keep the iPad 1 when is somebody is shoving $200 in your face for it, cuz the iPad 1 is definitely not worth that these days.
 

HeXen

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That still makes the 32gb replacement $399 which takes away from thanksgiving dinner and xmas. I save $200 to spend $400 and give the family a dollar store xmas.
 

jpeyton

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I wish I had an Apple iPad 1 to trade-in. $200 Target GC, it's a freakin' no brainer.
I didn't have one either, so I picked up several from Craigslist.

Now what to do with all this Target store credit? Maybe a half-price Retina Mini when they come out.
 

JackBurton

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It seems like I struck a nerve with you cheez. And just like I expected, you keep digging a deeper hole for yourself.

It was typed clearly in bold but since you still can't understand what I am saying I guess you have a reading comprehension problem. The Pioneer Kuro has a bit better contrast ratio but it starts off with darker blacks as a result the pictures are dim. The highest brightness is weak compared to Panasonic pro plasma TVs. You can understand better if I drew a graph for these two TV's for contrast ratio for you. The punchness is still better on the Panasonic, even though it has slightly weaker black levels.

lol, "slightly weaker black levels?" Try, light grey black levels at best. If you want to argue that point, do so with hard numbers. Go ahead and post the black level measured from your last calibration. I'll go ahead and save you the trouble, your set is NOWHERE close to a Kuro or a modern day Panasonic plasma. And to get a 3D like image you HAVE to have deep dark black levels. There is no way of getting around it. You are just making more excuses for you set's weaknesses.

As for peak light output, that is meaningless when an ISF calibrated set is normally targeted for 31-34fL light output. Anything more just goes unused. So what YOU are basically left with is a set that does grey "blacks" at best and is no brighter than any other plasmas. And just as an FYI, this light output level is also used for even the new ZT60 which can go MUCH brighter than 34fL. My set is also calibrated for that level even though it can go much brighter.

And I'll do you a favor and not go into the horrible ABL circuitry on your panel. Talk about distracting.

You newb, the DVI is superior overall due to better support on display resolutions (not stuck with stupid 720p and 1080p scaling-only) and better support for 1:1 pixel mapping. Both being digital doesn't necessarily give you the same performance due to display resolution problems from the HDMI causing distortion / blurring the pictures / texts. You keep digging yourself hole as I am sitting out here and laughing at you. Take it to PM before you embarrass yourself with your ignorance about the TV you own that you don't even know about... You are going off topic like a loser...

Again, you're using this to compensate for you panel's shortcomings. 1080p Pioneer plasmas have been able to do 1 for 1 pixel mapping ever since I can remember. And guess what they used, that's right HDMI.

Listen cheez, we've had this "debate" before. All you do is spew nonsense and pretend like you are some kind of videophile, which couldn't be further from the truth. If you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and post a review from a reputable source stating a 2004 Panasonic plasma is the pinnacle of plasma performance. It's really that easy.


This is a serious derail, but it serves as an example of how delusional you are.
 

gus6464

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It seems like I struck a nerve with you cheez. And just like I expected, you keep digging a deeper hole for yourself.



lol, "slightly weaker black levels?" Try, light grey black levels at best. If you want to argue that point, do so with hard numbers. Go ahead and post the black level measured from your last calibration. I'll go ahead and save you the trouble, your set is NOWHERE close to a Kuro or a modern day Panasonic plasma. And to get a 3D like image you HAVE to have deep dark black levels. There is no way of getting around it. You are just making more excuses for you set's weaknesses.

As for peak light output, that is meaningless when an ISF calibrated set is normally targeted for 31-34fL light output. Anything more just goes unused. So what YOU are basically left with is a set that does grey "blacks" at best and is no brighter than any other plasmas. And just as an FYI, this light output level is also used for even the new ZT60 which can go MUCH brighter than 34fL. My set is also calibrated for that level even though it can go much brighter.

And I'll do you a favor and not go into the horrible ABL circuitry on your panel. Talk about distracting.



Again, you're using this to compensate for you panel's shortcomings. 1080p Pioneer plasmas have been able to do 1 for 1 pixel mapping ever since I can remember. And guess what they used, that's right HDMI.

Listen cheez, we've had this "debate" before. All you do is spew nonsense and pretend like you are some kind of videophile, which couldn't be further from the truth. If you want to prove me wrong, go ahead and post a review from a reputable source stating a 2004 Panasonic plasma is the pinnacle of plasma performance. It's really that easy.


This is a serious derail, but it serves as an example of how delusional you are.

The saddest part is that the mods refuse to do anything about all the FUD he spreads. He loves to derail threads in the HT section by telling guys who are looking for 5.1 setups to buy HIS 2.1 speakers with $1000 cables because that setup will magically sound like 5.1.
 

JackBurton

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The saddest part is that the mods refuse to do anything about all the FUD he spreads. He loves to derail threads in the HT section by telling guys who are looking for 5.1 setups to buy HIS 2.1 speakers with $1000 cables because that setup will magically sound like 5.1.

He's an absolute joke.
 

RossMAN

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I went online but only got offered $65 for my iPad 1.

That's weird, you should be offered a minimum of $200 regardless of your iPad generation/model. I wonder what Joe1987 did differently?

According to this thread especially the OP and thread summary/wiki you should be offered a minimum of $200.
 

ControlD

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That's weird, you should be offered a minimum of $200 regardless of your iPad generation/model. I wonder what Joe1987 did differently?

According to this thread especially the OP and thread summary/wiki you should be offered a minimum of $200.

I think it's because I didn't try to go through a CSR online, I just went to their trade-in link. After reading the SD thread it seems that there is a specific process to go through for this deal.

In any case I am hoping my wife can stop by Target tomorrow. That saves me having to do the work and then she's the one that actually spent the cash!
 

bearxor

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I thought I read in the info post on that thread NOT to do the novipad200 code. That it would not work.

This is what it says:
DO NOT DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE USING THE novipad200 code, you will get screwed. Here's how that is supposed to work.

INSTORE the CSR will use the novipad200 code and they will print you a receipt, and on the shipping instructions, it will say to include the receipt.

That code is only for locations that are not taking the ipads themselves. Instead they have you mail it in, but you have to see them first!!

If you don't include the receipt that matches up for the BONUS money, you'll end up getting A) Less money, or B) your ipad returned to you most likely after Nov 9th so you'll miss the deal. So don't come back here crying that you got tricked or that target messed up because you did it to yourself. Its an INSTORE ONLY DEAL.

This is not necessarily true. Online trade-in print-out does include shipping label and official trade-receipt, with order no, date, bar code, your name and address, the items you traded in, and also the amount you will get. It is not the paper receipt with "Target Mobile" logo but I think it is formal enough.

So I don't know if I'd really risk it, myself, especially since going to target to get the GC and packing it up and shipping it to them are an equal amount of work.

I just noticed that you can use the card as a credit card anywhere. I definitely got to get by Target today.
 
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jpeyton

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I just noticed that you can use the card as a credit card anywhere. I definitely got to get by Target today.
People have tried using it elsewhere and it doesn't work. The card issuer even said it is locked to be used at Target only.
 

Joe1987

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My Air was delivered today, bought it from B&H to save taxes, got a 32GB with a cell radio.

After using it a bit, I'm impressed, definitely a step up from the iPad 2 I've used for several years now.

I was under the impression iWorks was free now, not seeing it in the App store?
 

Eug

Lifer
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My Air was delivered today, bought it from B&H to save taxes, got a 32GB with a cell radio.

After using it a bit, I'm impressed, definitely a step up from the iPad 2 I've used for several years now.

I was under the impression iWorks was free now, not seeing it in the App store?

You need to sign in. Perhaps try a reboot and then sign in, exit the App Store and kill the process using the multitasking manager or whatever it's called, and then relaunch it.
 

Joe1987

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You need to sign in. Perhaps try a reboot and then sign in, exit the App Store and kill the process using the multitasking manager or whatever it's called, and then relaunch it.

That worked, thanks :)
 

Young Grasshopper

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i want to wait for the mini but im wondering if i should get one with LTE integration or not? i have verizon and as i understand it i could add an ipad for $10 but why would anyone do that when you can just turn on a hotpot on your phone and tether off wifi only? i plan on having my mini and iphone together most of the time. just wondering if its worth it.
 

TheStu

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i want to wait for the mini but im wondering if i should get one with LTE integration or not? i have verizon and as i understand it i could add an ipad for $10 but why would anyone do that when you can just turn on a hotpot on your phone and tether off wifi only? i plan on having my mini and iphone together most of the time. just wondering if its worth it.

If you have tethering on your account, then you're right, there's no real point in getting LTE on the iPad.

The iPad does last a wicked long time acting as an LTE hotspot though, no joke.
 

Joe1987

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i want to wait for the mini but im wondering if i should get one with LTE integration or not? i have verizon and as i understand it i could add an ipad for $10 but why would anyone do that when you can just turn on a hotpot on your phone and tether off wifi only? i plan on having my mini and iphone together most of the time. just wondering if its worth it.

The LTE radio is also the first that covers ALL LTE in the US right now, all carriers, pretty impressive, the radio option also is the only way to get a GPS chip in the iPad.

ManBearPig, supposedly they've switched to free for iWork, it's not as full featured as it was, but they promise to add those features back soon.
 

Eug

Lifer
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Will iWork always be free?
If you bought a new machine capable of running iOS 7 Sept. 2013 or later, you get iWork for free. Plus, it's free for all other iDevices you have as well, as long as it's capable of running it. You have to have iOS 7 installed though.

If you don't have any new iDevice after Sept. 2013, they charge for iWork.

Will it always be free going forward? I dunno but I expect so, to compete with Microsoft's and Google's free office suites.