who is Nietzsche?

littlegohan

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can someone give me a brief summary of this guy?
i search for sites about him on the net and hte info is just too much too handle.
is he a promoter of nihilsm?

why is the Leopold-Loeb murder related to him?
 

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<< i search for sites about him on the net and hte info is just too much too handle. >>


Heh. That pretty much sums up what most people think of Nietzsche. Myself included. :D

Nietzsche is a philosopher famous for his theories of morality.

Here is how he was related, in brief, to the Leopold-Loeb murder trial in 1924:



<< Next comes another very well-known killing, the Leopold-Loeb murder of a young boy. This was the most notorious crime of the twenties. Leopold and Loeb were both students at the University of Chicago. They came from affluent homes. They were excellent students. They committed the murder for the experience of doing it. The media attributed the "thrill killing" to the influence of Nietzsche. Clarence Darrow was the attorney for the defense and tried to get them off by reason of insanity. >>



Rob
 

Jimbo

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Hitler dug him.


<< Remorse.-- Never yield to remorse, but at once tell yourself: remorse would simply mean adding to the first act of stupidity a second. from Nietzsche's The Wanderer and his Shadow,s. 323, R.J. Hollingdale transl. >>



In short, Nietzsche was a fruitcake. How did he get his start? HE WAS INSANE!!!!!
Born in Prussia, the son of a Luthern minister who died insane four years later, Nietzsche spent the years of chilhood with his mother, sister, and two maiden aunts. In 1858 he he entered boarding school, and in spite of poor health went on to study theology and classical philosophy at the University of Bonn, and then removed to Leipzig, where he became influenced by Kant, Schopenhauer, and the composer Richard Wagner. A year in the army in 1868 was cut short by illness, but his intellectual distinction was such that in 1869 he was appointed to the chair in philosophy at Basel, although at the time he was only 24 years old, and had none of the formal qualifications usually required. In 1879, Nietzsche resigned from the university because of his chronic ill healt, and on a modest pension devoted the rest of his time to writing.
In 1889 Nietzsche collapsed on a street in Turin, unable to bear the sight of a horse being flogged, and for the remaining years of his life was clinically insane. It is generally accepted that during the years towards his death (and after it) his sister and guardian, Elisabeth F&ouml;rster Nietzsche, played a role in muddying the channels of Nietzsche's influence on German life.

MAJOR WORKS:
The Birth of Tragedy Out of the Spirit of Music (1872)
Untimely Meditations (1873-1876)
Human, All too Human (1878-1880)
Mixed opinions and aphorisms (1879)
The Wanderer and his Shadow (1880)
The Dawn: Reflections o Moral Prejudices) (1881)
Die Fr?hliche wissenschaft (1882)
Thus Spoke Zarathustra (1883-1885).
Study Guide by Professor Paul Brians.
Beyond Good and Evil (1886)
The Genealogy of Morals (1887)
Die Goetzen-Daemmerung (1889)
The Case of Wagner (1895)
Der Antichrist (1895)
Ecce Homo (1908)

Good Place To Start (more good links at bottom)
 

datalink7

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I'm reading Beyond Good & Evil right now. It is a hard read, but very interesting.

I intend to move onto Thus Spake Zarathustra and The Antichrist next.
 

Aquaman

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Isn't this the dude that said ........... what does not kill you makes you stronger ? What they don't tell you is ......... It may not kill you but it will really hurt a lot ;)

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

AvesPKS

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He was one of may lovers of Lou Salome...who was a lover of Rainer Marie Rilke. Some believe that Salome's relationship with Nietzsche influenced Rilke's thoughts and ideas, and ultimately affected his writings of the Duino Elegies.
 
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Whoops, sorry- I am reading some of his works right now. He is most famous for sayin "God is Dead". He wasnt strictly an atheist, but he didnt like organized religion much. He believed people should live by their own morality and not by the morality of others. He was an individualist, and wanted people to think and DO for themselves.
 

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<< Hitler dug him. >>


Yeah, but the National Socialism "reading" of Nietzsche's texts is widely regarded as being incorrect.

Nietzsche has some great ideas, and some . . . interesting . . . ideas. :p

Rob
 

EvilYoda

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I read part of Thus Spoke Zarathustra a while back (hope I spelled that right).....and man, what a hard, but good, read. I'll pick it up again when I know I'll have enough time in the near future to read the whole thing through in it's entirety.

Good luck with his stuff, if you're going to pick it up.........certainly will make you think. Make sure you read a bio about how crazy he was, and sick (physically)......that's a horrible existance. (for instance, doctors told him he shouldn't read/write more than 30 minutes-an hour a day, and he would do it for hours on end, and then suffer major migraines, uncontrolable even with medication, for the next few days. damn.)
 

Kadarin

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What I'd like to know is why they used him as the basis for an "alien" (yet indistinguishable from human) race in the Andromeda tv show..
 

Czar

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I read about half of his "The use and abuse of history" book and wow, what a fruit. He makes alot of sense, sortof, but trying to make sense of what he is writing is extremely hard:Q
 

burnedout

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Nietzsche had a way with words. Read some of his work while in Germany.

Lachen hei&szlig;t schadenfroh sein, aber mit guttem gewissen

"Laughing means to be malicious, but with good conscience."
 

TheBlondOne

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I have no clue...but my roommate is taking a class about him and is freaking confused by it. So, good luck.

--Sarah
 

Hammer

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I had to read two of his books for a philosphy class in college, and they defintely change how you think about things. Good reads.